Raw shooter or Jpeg shooter?

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OT: joel bontuyan.....of ERC?

[Ian]

@abortretryfail, you're basically missing the point here. The "purist" here was not referring to how the images are. I mean come'on! I have so much respect because I know you've been doing this profession for years.. But I think you miss the point.

The purist here refers to our organization.. a believer that the camera is an extension of your eyes.. what you see, shoot and print.. in digital.. As to film, same thing.. What you see, shoot and print.. no exposure adjustments or whatever in the darkroom.. My mentor who's at his 70s not sure though regarding age but is one of Nikon's Masters of Photography.. He is based in Chicago.. and I really admired his approach to photography..

Ansel Adams did the same thing before.. shoot and print.. in B&W.. thats why he was using all those filters to get all those great looking B&W.. but eventually though he betrayed the group and did some of his techniques in the darkroom.. For which our group respected his new approach..

Purist is like.. in Volkswagen Hobbyist.. which I myself is a VW Hobbyist.. I believe once the car comes out from the manufacturer.. there should no alterations or additions to its parts or accessories.. damn you will then destroy the beauty of the beetle.. hahaha.. kidding aside.. same goes with our organization.. It may sound weird to you but thats what we believe.. Our aesthetic is limited to our camera's capabilities.. We compose, shoot and print.. thats what we believed to be of a purist photographer.. Thats why raw doesnt have much of importance to us.. We all prefer shooting Jpegs instead..

I hope you will understand or will try to.. Theres no point in this argument because we believe in other things.. same as you do.. all we have is respect to other's belief.. And we hope the same goes with you non-believers..

[Isabella Rain]

OT: joel bontuyan.....of ERC?

Yes, Sir. The same Joel, I am.

[Ian]

amen to that sire^^


IAN you are color blind literally?

just as what i have said

Yes boss tolstoi, I cant hardly differentiate the Brown from Green.. or the Blue to Violet..

[Isabella Rain]

@abortretryfail, you're basically missing the point here. The "purist" here was not referring to how the images are. I mean come'on! I have so much respect because I know you've been doing this profession for years.. But I think you miss the point.

The purist here refers to our organization.. a believer that the camera is an extension of your eyes.. what you see, shoot and print.. in digital.. As to film, same thing.. What you see, shoot and print.. no exposure adjustments or whatever in the darkroom.. My mentor who's at his 70s not sure though regarding age but is one of Nikon's Masters of Photography.. He is based in Chicago.. and I really admired his approach to photography..

Ansel Adams did the same thing before.. shoot and print.. in B&W.. thats why he was using all those filters to get all those great looking B&W.. but eventually though he betrayed the group and did some of his techniques in the darkroom.. For which our group respected his new approach..

Purist is like.. in Volkswagen Hobbyist.. which I myself is a VW Hobbyist.. I believe once the car comes out from the manufacturer.. there should no alterations or additions to its parts or accessories.. damn you will then destroy the beauty of the beetle.. hahaha.. kidding aside.. same goes with our organization.. It may sound weird to you but thats what we believe.. Our aesthetic is limited to our camera's capabilities.. We compose, shoot and print.. thats what we believed to be of a purist photographer.. Thats why raw doesnt have much of importance to us.. We all prefer shooting Jpegs instead..

I hope you will understand or will try to.. Theres no point in this argument because we believe in other things.. same as you do.. all we have is respect to other's belief.. And we hope the same goes with you non-believers..

As if your jpegs did not come from their RAW originals. C'mon, Ian. Your sensor sees in RAW but you let your camera discard it coz all you want to see is the jpeg outcome of in-camera processing. That's purist to you.

[Ian]

I know that and am sure our members do realize that the camera sensors produces Raw too. Can you print using raw sir Isabella Rain? Like I said, we compose, shoot and print..

I said our group might sound so weird but this is what we believe.. Compose, shoot and print..
But sometimes am too lazy with the filters getting the right one.. thats why sometimes I refuse to convert my color pics to B&W in Photoshop.. Hahaha.. sshh.. dont tell them.. Hahaha..

Thats what I believe photography should be.. Compose, shoot and Print.. Photographers are not Image editors.. so no need to spend time on the PC.. Compose, shoot and go straight to the printers.. Thats just us..

[Isabella Rain]

I know that and am sure our members do realize that the camera sensors produces Raw too. Can you print using raw sir Isabella Rain? Like I said, we compose, shoot and print..

I said our group might sound so weird but this is what we believe.. Compose, shoot and print..
But sometimes am too lazy with the filters getting the right one.. thats why sometimes I refuse to convert my color pics to B&W in Photoshop.. Hahaha.. sshh.. dont tell them.. Hahaha..


Thats what I believe photography should be.. Compose, shoot and Print.. Photographers are not Image editors.. so no need to spend time on the PC.. Compose, shoot and go straight to the printers.. Thats just us..

Actually, I can print from CS2 using .CR2. That's still RAW from my 350D.

[Ian]

Thats because you're using a PC software to do it. But raw from your camera then go straight to a printer. I dont think so. Well, not yet. [br]Posted on: November 25, 2006, 10:44:02 PM_________________________________________________I ts like Compose, Shoot --> Jpeg goes to CF, Print.. Thats what we believe photography should be..

[Isabella Rain]

Thats because you're using a PC software to do it. But raw from your camera then go straight to a printer. I dont think so. Well, not yet.

I will try using my canon printer's pictbridge. Will let you know. And if it can be done, will there be a re-definition of "purist"? Hmmmm...

[Ian]

Ok sir. Just try shooting raw then print. Tell me if it gave you the colors from what you saw on your viewfinder. Our definition will never change boss. The camera is the extension of our eyes. What we see, we compose and shoot using jpegs because with that.. we don't have to tweak it on a PC unlike raw.. and print..

By the way, am using Nikon cams.. Canon should do that raw to printer with pictbridge.. but that won't change the definition.. Unless I'll become rebellious like Ansel Adams.. hahaha..