Truth About Hell

[Tirong-say]

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Yup, maybe it is here on earth, one of them is about to erupt soon......................he-he

[icechan83]

TS: Bro, Dan Brown fanatic ka?

[chad_tukes]

Morality then could be a sliding scale. Theologies provide a written and accepted moral code. Most countries of this world's countries civil laws are the product of the influence of the moral codes. To say culture would be better without religion can only be a fallacy. A new totally different moral code, that with not theological influence would be needed to make that even a possibility. A perfect Atheist state would have to be just a mirror image of the perfect Religious state, a copy. If an Atheist sate was to develop free of a religious influences, would it impose laws and ideologies restricting citizens from believing in deities? If man is not to fear punishment from God, than he must fear something to make him adhere to this new atheistic moral law. Sounds like Communism to me.

you are then saying that religion is the source for morality and that morality itself is not innate, but rather taught by religion. man fears doing wrong because he answers to God, which is a conditional state. would that mean if there was no God to answer to, man would choose to do wrong? i don't think so. morality is innate. even animals have morality. do monkeys, dogs, and cats believe in God? an atheistic nation would develop laws free of the influences of religious dogma but still manages to keep morality as it is---though on a different but good way.

That means it does not matter Catholic over Protestant, Buddhist over Taoist, etc. Only that the societies which believed in eternal damnation in the after life tended to be more prosperous and more conducive to fair business practices. And this stimulates a viable business environment which leads to economic prosperity for their citizens. You may want to use it a a battle ground issue, that is cool, but the report still stands. I am not and Economist and you are not an Economist. I have been and still am a business man, and if I am going to invest large sums of money with a man or a country. I want him to have a fear of God, I do not want just a failed court system as guarantee that he has a moral code. You may choose to give your money to just anyone, but first earn a large sum of money. Then see if you will just hand it to an Atheist in an atheistic country. You can talk trash, but true reality chances concepts; especially when faced with the true realities.

don't make it more complicated than it already is. the statement simply means that religion or religious theology has got nothing to do with an overall economic performance of a nation. you won't do business with an atheist? that is cool with me, just goes to show how prejudice you are towards atheists. guess what, i'll still do business with people no matter what belief system he has---as long as he is honest, reliable, and knows what he's doing.

I guess there is a sound example of support for your argument: The Philippines
Question: Why do so few major world companies choose to invest in the Philippines?
Question: With such beauty, why so few world travelers choose to come here?
Question: With so much claiming religion, why such corruption and economic disparity?
Question: Religion, Cultural, or DNA key factor for corruption and economic disparity?
The Philippines being religious and the 14th largest ethnic group on this planet, should have been on the list of this report. I am asking with the deepest respect for the country were I live, the culture and people that is my neighbors, and that which is my wife and son. 50 years ago the Philippines was the strongest economic base in the Pacific ream. What explains the realities facing the Philippines of the present? Most Filipinos believe in the concept of Hell.

thank you.

so answer your own question and support your side of the argument, which is that hell and economic performance are interrelated and that belief in hell can influence a nation's economic growth. make sure you use the example of the PHILIPPINES to support your claim.

[AmorsoloX]

kini "hell" mao jud ni paborito nga panghadlok sa mga tuo2xhon sa mga dili motoo..

the fear of hell prevents us from achieving our potential.. the fear of doing something bad which might lead us to hell prevent us from doing something outside the so called rules, rules which where just made up by men..

kung killer ka? ma imperno ka?
kung rapist ka? ma imperno ka?
kung kawatan ka? ma imperno ka?
kung santo ka? dili ka ma imperno?

wala evidence ang imperno... imbento2x ra nah para panghadlok.. para naa motoo, adto sa mo sa imperno balik daun... kung naa sultii mi kay para motoo mi.. ang please bring your camera ha..

to see it to believe.. what is not seen counts for nothing.. truth is seen, rarely heard.. and if heard, is already seen...

unsa man evidence? bible? the bible is not even a good source of historical accounts., biased man kaau.. gloriefied ra kaau ang mga jews and ang mga "tao sa ginoo".. wala gihatagan equal voice ang ila kaaway.. naa man gani scientific theories pero grabe ra kaau ka basic, the earth was round? hyeah right, the earlier civilizations already knew that..

i remember a certain mass before, ingon ang pari.. "dili daw maau ang mag-andoy og kwarta og magpakadato kay makalimot daw sa ginoo, bolahan ang mga pobre kay mas saun isulod sa langit".. wtf... so meaning bad diay ang dato and ang magpakadato... sus kung dili pa nako kuyog ako inlaws id give that priest the middle finger.. grabe nato paningkamot para mo ayahay ato kinabuhi daun inngan ta nga daotan diay..

th only people who deserves hell are those people who preach about hell and how they discourage people from doing practical things..

[kebotDiNaMute]

kini "hell" mao jud ni paborito nga panghadlok sa mga tuo2xhon sa mga dili motoo..

the fear of hell prevents us from achieving our potential.. the fear of doing something bad which might lead us to hell prevent us from doing something outside the so called rules, rules which where just made up by men..

kung killer ka? ma imperno ka?
kung rapist ka? ma imperno ka?
kung kawatan ka? ma imperno ka?
kung santo ka? dili ka ma imperno?

wala evidence ang imperno... imbento2x ra nah para panghadlok.. para naa motoo, adto sa mo sa imperno balik daun... kung naa sultii mi kay para motoo mi.. ang please bring your camera ha..

to see it to believe.. what is not seen counts for nothing.. truth is seen, rarely heard.. and if heard, is already seen...

unsa man evidence? bible? the bible is not even a good source of historical accounts., biased man kaau.. gloriefied ra kaau ang mga jews and ang mga "tao sa ginoo".. wala gihatagan equal voice ang ila kaaway.. naa man gani scientific theories pero grabe ra kaau ka basic, the earth was round? hyeah right, the earlier civilizations already knew that..

i remember a certain mass before, ingon ang pari.. "dili daw maau ang mag-andoy og kwarta og magpakadato kay makalimot daw sa ginoo, bolahan ang mga pobre kay mas saun isulod sa langit".. wtf... so meaning bad diay ang dato and ang magpakadato... sus kung dili pa nako kuyog ako inlaws id give that priest the middle finger.. grabe nato paningkamot para mo ayahay ato kinabuhi daun inngan ta nga daotan diay..

th only people who deserves hell are those people who preach about hell and how they discourage people from doing practical things..

Ignorance of the law excuses no one...

wala evidence ang imperno...
--- yes its called faith.

imbento2x ra nah para panghadlok..
--- yes, mahadlok ka mo buhat og dautan. Whats wrong with doing right?

i remember a certain mass before, ingon ang pari.. "dili daw maau ang mag-andoy og kwarta og magpakadato kay makalimot daw sa ginoo, bolahan ang mga pobre kay mas saun isulod sa langit"..
--- ayaw 2o anang mga tawo mo gamit sa pulpit and projecting their thoughts. You must verify.
--- It only states "it is easier for a poor man to go to heaven than a rich man"
--- what the priest told you are just his own thoughts to address the crowd... Not all people agree with our president either... point is: each one have his own take of things. If you raise your middle finger, make sure you are safe to do so... but since you didn't then that means to say, you pay your respect for the crowd not the priest.
--- problema sa pilipinas amor! we don't know what unity means... even if it meant common good. Permi rata protesta... cge complain atubangan sa US Embassy, inig calamity ang mga tonto, toa nag una-una og linya sa relief goods... That is the problem, we cannot seem to tolerate other's ideas because we felt it is wrong.

Gud luck brad.