Vajrayana-The Path Royale

[Lovely Charm]

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stop being childish and go practice what you preach. you are so envious, you don't like christians and you don't like JL. that's what you are.

better let go of that hate or else it will consumed you. and stop comparing other groups with one another.

if you think that the group is not authentic then file your case and come face us. don't hide behind your pc. and stop playing like you are an expert.

let me spread the card for you, JL have attained a certain mastery, you, what are you?

you know what homo what im so against of is the misused of the word mysticism, the word christian, occultism,,,,
anybody who knows how to read & has a good memory can do what your Jose lagotan is doing....yes i agree that JL did attained some mastery,,,,the mastery to exploit simple minded people like you,,,
whats the difference between bro. Eli & Jose lagotan? their source of panloloko
but of the same breed,

I think sir Freelancer was just simply mesmerized by the timely answers that JL provided to him when he needed it most,,,
& again im actually helping you to be free from the swendling of this JL homo

Its so simple homo one does not need the caliber of freud or jung to judge a persons motives,,,so simple your JL is the worst example (behaviorally speaking) of what he is "preaching"

Jose Lagotan is more of a MISTAKE rather than a MYSTIC

But for freelancer, in fairness with you sir i think your best w/o the touch of JL,,im sure you have good intentions its just that even if its a figure of speech,,yung lightning evolution?,,,it really did mar the quality of mysticism,,

[Lovely Charm]

"Beginning from this moment and henceforth,
Until I obtain the Highest Enlightenment,
I shall not permit ill-will or anger,
Avarice or envy, to occupy my mind."

"I shall practice the Pure Life,
And renounce sin and base desire;
I shall imitate the Buddha
By rejoicing in the vow of Conduct."

- Atisha, A lamp for Enlightenment


a good guide for the serious students. Occultism/Esotericism/Mysticism/Sprituality is not a fad. Your involvement to any group that teaches the ancient wisdom should come from your heart. Mystic symbols, flowery words, a sense of belonging are some of the many reasons why people jumped in the bandwagon. That should not be the case or you'll find yourself in harm's way.

you'll know that you have the right intention when you exercise tolerance, your patience is growing, changes is taking place, less time in spending too much time in idle talk and company, and many more, all positive.

"I shall not permit ill-will or anger,,,"

Nice words homo sa?
i noticed parang wala kanang ill-will & anger
i hope matoro-an mo akong magawa tong di magkaroon ng ill-will or anger sa buhay ko kasi di lightning speed yung spirituality ko po

[freelancers13]

you know what homo what im so against of is the misused of the word mysticism, the word christian, occultism,,,,
anybody who knows how to read & has a good memory can do what your Jose lagotan is doing....yes i agree that JL did attained some mastery,,,,the mastery to exploit simple minded people like you,,,
whats the difference between bro. Eli & Jose lagotan? their source of panloloko
but of the same breed,

I think sir Freelancer was just simply mesmerized by the timely answers that JL provided to him when he needed it most,,,
& again im actually helping you to be free from the swendling of this JL homo

Its so simple homo one does not need the caliber of freud or jung to judge a persons motives,,,so simple your JL is the worst example (behaviorally speaking) of what he is "preaching"

Jose Lagotan is more of a MISTAKE rather than a MYSTIC

But for freelancer, in fairness with you sir i think your best w/o the touch of JL,,im sure you have good intentions its just that even if its a figure of speech,,yung lightning evolution?,,,it really did mar the quality of mysticism,,

Thank you for your concern but I do not need it. JL is a mystic (I know you won't believe me). Yes, he did convince me in joining but maintaining my membership is another thing. I have been a member for quite some time now. If ever he is just fooling with people or with us then I would have been able to recognize that and have left but I have not. The Order has been able to recruit many intelligent people (businessmen, doctors, lawyers, judges, professionals) and they have stayed for years and are still active.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that you are thinking this way because you associate JL with the Order and because of the negative experiences your friends have with him. For the record JL DID NOT ESTABLISH OR FOUND THE ORDER NOR DOES HE OWN IT. He just brought it here. You can think of him as a messenger. Yes he did convince many to become members but staying with the Order is a completely different matter. I believe that I can safely "say" this in behalf of the members, we have stayed because we have proven that the techniques of the Order work.

As for the lightning-speed evolution: Vajrayana teaches kundalini and if all chakras start to move without obstructions then energy will pass like electricity hence the lightning-speed evolution.

[Lovely Charm]

Thank you for your concern but I do not need it. JL is a mystic (I know you won't believe me). Yes, he did convince me in joining but maintaining my membership is another thing. I have been a member for quite some time now. If ever he is just fooling with people or with us then I would have been able to recognize that and have left but I have not. The Order has been able to recruit many intelligent people (businessmen, doctors, lawyers, judges, professionals) and they have stayed for years and are still active.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that you are thinking this way because you associate JL with the Order and because of the negative experiences your friends have with him. For the record JL DID NOT ESTABLISH OR FOUND THE ORDER NOR DOES HE OWN IT. He just brought it here. You can think of him as a messenger. Yes he did convince many to become members but staying with the Order is a completely different matter. I believe that I can safely "say" this in behalf of the members, we have stayed because we have proven that the techniques of the Order work.

As for the lightning-speed evolution: Vajrayana teaches kundalini and if all chakras start to move without obstructions then energy will pass like electricity hence the lightning-speed evolution.

well good for you sir Freelancer you prefer to see JL differently & i wont take that away from you,though i still maintain that his a swindler (oh how i wish to get hand of the certificate coming from the original members of Ross in cebu cutting off ties w/ him due to his "mystical performance"

But its another storey if you insist about lightning-speed evolution,,,because it teaches kundalini?
as you can see your defining the process w/c takes place "when" it is aligned or unobstructed, hence appearing lightning speed.
but i guess your totaly neglecting the process itself,,,as far as occultism is concerned- many lifetimes po
sir freelancer,,,,you cannot forcibly accelerate the alignment of chakras, granting what you think of kundalini is what im also talking about,,
this is not my claim sir,,read authentic books coming from authentic occult groups & you will see that the development of the so called "kundalini" serpent fire is not a matter of casual endeavor..

if i may say,,you really need a Master,,maybe one of the masters of the "great white brotherhood"
not unless you will also claim that Jl attains the last initiation to be considered as an arhat,,maybe ahat.

[freelancers13]

@Lovely_Charm:

How I wish I could tell you and everyone else everything I know but I can't. Doing that would be a betrayal to the trust given to me. I truly wish that I could share my experiences but they're mine and are meant to be for my consumption only. The only thing I could do is to invite everyone to become members and encourage them to practice, practice, practice (I also need this advice. hehehe).

FYI. I know some things that happened within the Order (when it was still in another name) during the past but I only know the side of the Order.

PEACE BE WITH YOU!

[Lovely Charm]

@Lovely_Charm:

How I wish I could tell you and everyone else everything I know but I can't. Doing that would be a betrayal to the trust given to me. I truly wish that I could share my experiences but they're mine and are meant to be for my consumption only. The only thing I could do is to invite everyone to become members and encourage them to practice, practice, practice (I also need this advice. hehehe).

FYI. I know some things that happened within the Order (when it was still in another name) during the past but I only know the side of the Order.

PEACE BE WITH YOU!

Hope you understand that i have nothing against you sir,,,its only w/ master Jose Lagotan
Kindly read books from established esoteric groups sir & you will understand where my statement is coming from.

thanks for being polite
you remind me of Josephdc,,,and homo reminds me of Pien

[Homo_quaeritans]

@lovelycharm

just forget what i said. I want to be truthful to my pledge to work for peace and harmony. How can I radiate love if my heart is being bothered by the opinion of other people?

thank you for your concern I appreciate that. The teachings in the Order is what matters to me, the techniques taught are bearing fruit: financially, emotionally, socially, in my life.

I had the chance of read other books on occultism, hermetic,alchemy and others, the teachings does have similarity with what is being taught in the Order.

[Homo_quaeritans]

@lovely charm..

did you ever talk with JL about this issue? are you interested to hear his side of the story? or are you satisfied by the story made by your FRIEND?


you cannot forcibly accelerate the alignment of the chakras? Remember, this is mysticism, no dogmas. Your experience is your best teacher.

[Homo_quaeritans]

well good for you sir Freelancer you prefer to see JL differently & i wont take that away from you,though i still maintain that his a swindler (oh how i wish to get hand of the certificate coming from the original members of Ross in cebu cutting off ties w/ him due to his "mystical performance"

But its another storey if you insist about lightning-speed evolution,,,because it teaches kundalini?
as you can see your defining the process w/c takes place "when" it is aligned or unobstructed, hence appearing lightning speed.
but i guess your totaly neglecting the process itself,,,as far as occultism is concerned- many lifetimes po
sir freelancer,,,,you cannot forcibly accelerate the alignment of chakras, granting what you think of kundalini is what im also talking about,,
this is not my claim sir,,read authentic books coming from authentic occult groups & you will see that the development of the so called "kundalini" serpent fire is not a matter of casual endeavor..

if i may say,,you really need a Master,,maybe one of the masters of the "great white brotherhood"
not unless you will also claim that Jl attains the last initiation to be considered as an arhat,,maybe ahat.

what are you trying to accomplish here? grabeha pod nimo manulti noh. are you aware of the impact of the statement you made, on you?

hear yourself...these are your words... "mistake instead of mystic"(referring to JL), "Arhat maybe ahat" (again referring to JL) " oh how wish I could get hold of the certificate and...." ? what are all these for?

now be honest to yourself. what are you trying to accomplish here? is it really because you are concern? are you sure?

[miyay]

How can I radiate love if my heart is being bothered by the opinion of other people?

ot: let not your heart be bothered, sir

i think being antagonized by others is another way to practice the art of no mind. hmmmm...kinsay makig away diha?