God, suicide???

[Soul Doctor]

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Sakto jud ka bro. If Jesus died for our sins, then why is Judas, Caiaphas, and company demonized? As per their theory, Judas and co. should be made heroes, since they contributed to mankind's "salvation" by crucifying Jesus Christ.

Para lang nako noh, Jesus' crucifixion is not a "happy" event, but an event that should be frowned upon. Why? His crucifixion was done because the Jewish High Priests were envious of his ministry, which was growing, that he was actually pointing people on the road to the Kingdom of Heaven. Since when has been crucifying or inflicting pain to the Servant of God a "good" thing or a way to salvation? Absolute nonsense.

If you truly love a person, would you be happy seeing the person you love being crucified, being beaten to the point of death, etc? NO. Jesus did come here to save us from our sins, but not through being crucified and dying on the cross. He came to show us that we can be free from our sins by actually cultivating our spiritual relationship with the Heavenly Father, not by sticking him on the cross. If by crucifying him on the cross then mankind would be "free from sin", he should have said it plainly, "Hey guys, stick me on the cross now. If you do so, you would be free from your sins. Isn't that a great thing?" But did he say that? No.

if jesus were god then--
i think his death was a waste.
until now, we still are sinners.
no lesser than 2000 years before.
in fact, we humans even become worse.
we don't only kill people we also kill the earth.

[peewee_toot]

who r those people? hehe

i dont know sir. wala pa ko na born ato nga time gd.

[ulyrich]

No, God isn't that stupid.

[yiennahs]

I've been to those priest or ministry, and I find their answers either lacking or confusing. They haven't been able to answer my question: If Jesus truly died for our sins, that his crucifixion was a sacrifice to save mankind, why did he say "Lord, forgive them for they know not what they do."?

then go to another one,
and don't worry, He will give u the answer at the right time
meanwhile if u r so curious about it, then don't give up in searching fro answers and be cautions on what's around, basig naa ra diay ang answer sa imo atubangan then wala jud ko kabantay. It's normal to be curious, maybe it's a calling

[yiennahs]

this is a product for lack of faith and ignorance

[neigyl_noval]

Yes he commited suicide! Sacrifice is a kind of suicide with a little knowledge that you're going to die!

--> He did not commit suicide. The truth is, Jesus was being framed up. But a God like him be framed up? Mao ni ang essence sa Catholic faith. Bisag unsa xa ka-gamhanan, nagpaka-taw jud xa aron mamatay. He did not intend to save our sins. He intended to save us as a whole. (1) Through the death of Jesus, it was proven nga naay resurrection--naay next life after death. (2) Through the death of Jesus, it was shown nga bisag unsa ka-dako imung sala, mapasaylo gihapon ka niya based on the kawatan beside him on the cross. (3) The temple was literally destroyed and was rebuilt during his resurrection. Because at that time the temple was built to make money for the officials. It was destroyed and was later re-built into the Church of God.

TS
suicide para nako is the act of ending your life
but nowaday's its being attributed to acts of desperation

and the case of jesus
nobody killed jesus and no-one can be held accountable for it if "he died for our sins" as preached over and over again...blah..blah..blah
meaning the event of his death is meant happen.

--> True.

TS
my question is:
what does that make Judas? A traitor? sure ticket to hell? Why demonize the his name and synonymously related it to something negative or evil?
Or does that make him a hero also contributing to mankind's salvation via jesus death?

--> If you're a Catholic you should be aware that Judas has already been a saint. What makes him a saint? Google search may help you. If you're not a Catholic, I have no answers for you. Bisag unsa kadako sa imung sala, pasayloon gihapon ka sa Ginoo.

TS
and what of the roman emperor and the soldiers carrying out the execution?
what does that make them?

--> Scriptures doesn't say anything about this. But the fact that the robber beside Jesus on the cross is now in heaven even he is a sinner, the executioners might have been in heaven as well when they ask forgiveness for it.

TS
if naa mu answer please do so directly from your own product of intellect and no scriptures please heheh

--> It can't help. Your questions are even on the scriptures.

Sakto jud ka bro. If Jesus died for our sins, then why is Judas, Caiaphas, and company demonized? As per their theory, Judas and co. should be made heroes, since they contributed to mankind's "salvation" by crucifying Jesus Christ.

--> They were not demonized. In fact, Judas has already been a saint. In ani lang pag-huna2x: Ng-too ang demonyo nga na-ilad nila si Judas. But wrong. Ang demonyo maoy nailad.

Para lang nako noh, Jesus' crucifixion is not a "happy" event, but an event that should be frowned upon. Why? His crucifixion was done because the Jewish High Priests were envious of his ministry, which was growing, that he was actually pointing people on the road to the Kingdom of Heaven.

--> True.

Since when has been crucifying or inflicting pain to the Servant of God a "good" thing or a way to salvation? Absolute nonsense.

--> He did not commit suicide. The truth is, Jesus was being framed up. But a God like him be framed up? Mao ni ang essence sa Catholic faith. Bisag unsa xa ka-gamhanan, nagpaka-taw jud xa aron mamatay. He did not intend to save our sins. He intended to save us as a whole. (1) Through the death of Jesus, it was proven nga naay resurrection--naay next life after death. (2) Through the death of Jesus, it was shown nga bisag unsa ka-dako imung sala, mapasaylo gihapon ka niya based on the kawatan beside him on the cross. (3) The temple was literally destroyed and was rebuilt during his resurrection. Because at that time the temple was built to make money for the officials. It was destroyed and was later re-built into the Church of God.

If you truly love a person, would you be happy seeing the person you love being crucified, being beaten to the point of death, etc? NO. Jesus did come here to save us from our sins, but not through being crucified and dying on the cross. He came to show us that we can be free from our sins by actually cultivating our spiritual relationship with the Heavenly Father, not by sticking him on the cross. If by crucifying him on the cross then mankind would be "free from sin", he should have said it plainly, "Hey guys, stick me on the cross now. If you do so, you would be free from your sins. Isn't that a great thing?" But did he say that? No.

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--> Crucifying him doesn't save our sins either but save us as a whole. See my previous comment.

[neigyl_noval]

how could a God die?

--> He cannot die. He literally died to save us whole. See my previous post.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

No, God isn't that stupid.

Should've said God is not stupid

[SioDenz]

Sakto jud ka bro. If Jesus died for our sins, then why is Judas, Caiaphas, and company demonized? As per their theory, Judas and co. should be made heroes, since they contributed to mankind's "salvation" by crucifying Jesus Christ.

Para lang nako noh, Jesus' crucifixion is not a "happy" event, but an event that should be frowned upon. Why? His crucifixion was done because the Jewish High Priests were envious of his ministry, which was growing, that he was actually pointing people on the road to the Kingdom of Heaven. Since when has been crucifying or inflicting pain to the Servant of God a "good" thing or a way to salvation? Absolute nonsense.

If you truly love a person, would you be happy seeing the person you love being crucified, being beaten to the point of death, etc? NO. Jesus did come here to save us from our sins, but not through being crucified and dying on the cross. He came to show us that we can be free from our sins by actually cultivating our spiritual relationship with the Heavenly Father, not by sticking him on the cross. If by crucifying him on the cross then mankind would be "free from sin", he should have said it plainly, "Hey guys, stick me on the cross now. If you do so, you would be free from your sins. Isn't that a great thing?" But did he say that? No.

Jesus was Punk'd?

I think Jesus already know that it would happen but he tried to spread the word first coz maybe people will change but it did not happened.

[tatajhun]

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