... Selecting a POPE

[ferj]

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learned a lot from this topic pipz....about the procedure for selecting the pope..but whoever, will be chosen..i juz do hope he'll continue what the late Pope John Paul II had started.

bout Cardinal Vidal--as possible next Pope..y not?? but i guess we have a slim chance..

[oliver_g0110]

yeah! honestly im not a catholic but i admire the way late Pope John PAul II did his job. He's like Magsaysay or Mother Theresa etc. who always try to reach people from different parts of the world. I encountered him once face to face, years ago. Let's pray for him and the incoming Pope.

[arnoldsa]

We can never tell especially now that we have a diverse number of Cardinals..
Before, Popes were usually "Italian" because most, if not all, of the Cardinals were Italians. But now, since Roman Catholicism has spread throughout the world, ever since Magellan went around the world, then daghan na kaayo Cardinals from other countries. Cardinal Arinze (Black Cardinal) is the most strong contender from me... I already heard his name as a possible Pope way back year 2000... Pope John Paul II admired him so much for his virtues -- and the fact that he came from Africa, the most oppressed continent perhaps, in the entire planet...

the pope can not be black.
if it is it can be also arabic or indian...(impossible..)
we must be realist a pope must be italian for political cosideration
a pop has a big importance because of catholic number.
i think politions would not accept a pop hwo my cause a problem for them

[guilliam]

@PissKhanXXX said in: http://forums.istorya.net/viewtopic.php?t=30569

ahihihih.. agree.. POPE SIN wouldnt sound fitting.. but of course, once pops they have the priveledge to change their names. how about pope john paul III??

[seunganne]

hahaahahaahahha comelec ka alig re gyud ani diay no mora man election sa pinas ,ka aleg re pod ninyo oy ang ako lang no mag ampo ra gyud ta nga ang mosunod ni pope john paul maayong tawodili mangurakot pareha sa pilipinas daghan corruption bitaw naa man gud ning comelec mao nahinumdom ko.

[1nsane]

i saw while ago from MGB it featured about St. Malachy

and how he foresaw all the Pope's who would come before the end of time... There are only two Popes named by St. Malachy after John Paul II. The first he names Gloria olivae. The second will be named Peter, and he may be the last Pope. Malachy’s prophecy about Peter says, “In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people.”

The end of the world?<<------- kuyawa ani oi.....

[hondarevo]

Man! I can't imagine a "Black" Pope! sorry for that.... but i dont know... wala lang... i think the late last Pope John Paul II was really a symbolical figure for a Pope. People can't help comparing the next Pope from the late last Pope.


@blade101 - No probs bro! Thanks

There is no problem if the next Pope will be black... but you know what, it was predicted that the next Pope even before Pope John Paull II died will be black... But it was also predicted that he will not reign his papacy for a long time coz he will be assassinated and killed....

i dunno if these predictions will be true...

[arnoldsa]

Yup I have a book about the Fatima Predictions... and it all did come true!!!

It was said that the after Pope Paul VI, there would be two more Popes... after which the next one would be the last.... The pope next to Paul VI would reign for a very "short time" while the next would reign for a very "long time."

And indeed it came true! Pope John Paul I reigned for only 30++ days, while John Paul II reigned for 26yrs...

I'm still searching for that book in our bodega... It's title was "Eternal Justice"

[arnoldsa]

I also can't understand the technical ruling that says "any RC catholic can become pope.." does that mean that even if your not a Priest and you're married... then you can become a pope?? just a query..

[dawn runner]

Cardinals in first full day of voting for next pope

Posted 02:20am (Mla time) April 19, 2005
Agence France-Presse




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VATICAN CITY – (2nd UPDATE) Roman Catholic cardinals were set to begin their first full day of voting Tuesday after withdrawing into their ultra-secret conclave to elect a successor to Pope John Paul II.
Sequestered behind Vatican walls until they reach agreement on the next spiritual leader of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics, their only communication with the outside world until then will be black smoke signals emitted from a narrow chimney atop the Sistine Chapel.

The first black smoke signal emerged shortly after 8:00 p.m. (1800 GMT) at the end of a tradition-laden day of ceremony, prayer and suspense.

Initially, it appeared to the 20,000 people massed on Saint Peter's Square that the first wisps were white, indicating a successful vote, but the signal soon turned emphatically black, indicating the first of what could be many inconclusive rounds of balloting.

The 115 cardinal electors will henceforth vote four times a day until they reach the required two-thirds majority.

The prelates had embarked on their momentous task Monday with a special mass in St Peter's Basilica led by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger to pray for God's guidance.

Ratzinger, a close confidant of John Paul II who is among leading candidates to succeed him, used the platform of his homily to defend Church doctrine and condemn the rise of transient ideologies.

Later Monday, the cardinals processed solemnly into the Sistine Chapel for the formal start of the conclave, taking an oath of secrecy and foreswearing politicking.

The master of liturgical ceremonies, Archbishop Piero Marini, then intoned the time-honored words "Extra Omnes," the order for all those not taking part to leave the chapel.

The secret part of the conclave then began with a 15-20-minute meditation delivered by a Czech Tomas Cardinal Spidlik, the second of two that John Paul II decreed in 1996 should be given to help cardinals make up their minds.

Last week, the prelates were warned not to be "ambitious."

The Sistine Chapel, normally packed with tourists admiring the magnificent frescoes including Michelangelo's Last Judgment, has been swept for bugs and a special system will scramble any mobile telephone communications.

With the cardinals now cloistered in their conclave, Vatican watchers henceforth will have the merest scraps of suppositions to divine how the election is proceeding.

As the conclave began, Ratzinger was considered the standard-bearer of a conservative bloc facing liberals spearheaded by Italy's Carlo Maria Martini.

Dionigi Cardinal Tettamanzi, the archbishop of Milan, and also seen as less conservative than Ratzinger, has often been cited as well.

But with the emergence of two apparently equal camps, bookmakers have also listed the likes of Nigeria's Francis Arinze, Jean-Marie Lustiger of France, Brazil's Claudio Hummes and the Honduran Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga as possible compromise candidates.

Whoever is elected pope will take the Church into a new era after 26 years under John Paul II and at a time when Roman Catholicism faces stern doctrinal and moral dilemmas.

Conservatives want to uphold his strict stance on issues such as abortion, contraception, gays and the ordination of women, but many in the Church have urged a relaxation of certain strictures, notably to allow condoms in the fight against AIDS.

Issuing a clarion call for "clear faith," Ratzinger urged his fellow clerics to be guided by "the concern to bring to everyone the gift of faith and friendship with Christ."

For me the safer choice will be Ratzinger. He is more conservative than JP II and in this time of strong challenges from relativism and agnosticism, we need a leader who will hold on to our faith.

If Ratzinger is not chosen, Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria is a good alternative. We need a conservative Good Shepherd.