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  1. #31

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes


    Quote Originally Posted by dawn runner
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    Religious institutions are generally non-profit..

    .. so having no income at all ...
    churches are non-profit organizations? yes, kon ang members pasultihon. But raking in profits they are. who was it who said that religion is the world's biggest business enterprise?
    hmmm i thnk religion is the next big thing to war..
    anyway there s already simony in the church so adunai profit..hehehe..pero ang 1987 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES sec. 6 article 2 states that "The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable "....lisod pa jud..
    I dont agree with the term profit. Profit is more appropriate to business. Religion is about vocation and dedicating ones life for his belief. Priest have to take care of their physical needs while tending the spiritual needs of its flock.

    To tell you about earnings of the Church, much of it is spent for Church maintenance, some of it is for subsidizing parochial schools, the rest go to Charity. I admit that the priest some kind of allowance. These people leave their families and forego marriage. They are entitled to few perks in life. We should be more understanding to them than being cynical.
    in my opinion it is okay to call it profit..coz it is a product of simony..syunana ka.. magpakasal ang bayad sang service nag vary..adonai special na-ai ordinary..service ang gina term nila ana..nya na-ay corresponding bayad..and if dili ka magpakasal sa imo parokya naa ka bayaran...mura ug multa..ma pugos pud ka kai dili man hatag sa kinahanglan para sa lain parokya...sa katoliko ni cya..

    mao man ni ang gitawag nila ug simony..
    Ayaw na lang pakasal. Gasto man kaha? Makagasto man gani ka ug beer ug lechon pero sa simbahan dili ka kahatag? Panagayoan ka lang ug gamay daghan kanag reklamo. balhin ug uban relihiyon o di ba pag live in na lang aron dili ka kabayad sa fee.
    ther goes another faithful...
    hey..its not asked..its fined...kanang akong gina ingon nga ad2 ka sa lain parokya pa kasal pabayaron ka sa inyoa parokya..ka bantai ka kid..
    also kanang beer ug lechon..? unsa man labot sa simbahan kun dili ko mo hatag..inana dai nang simbahan part kung dili ka mo hatag pa balhinon ka..mura man iskwelahan..bitaw nag live in man mi para dili ka bayad sa FEE....sus grabe ug rason no..naa btaw huwes dha..ug usa pa dong wala ko ga reklamo..nag mirror ko sa akong nakita..tngali wala ka ma reason maong ingon ana ka..

    mao dai na mugna ni nga phrase "Faith is the end of Reason" kai na diay mga parihas sa imoa nga tao..

    diay dong agnostic ko...so ayaw na lang ko bugawa sa lain relehiyon..hehe..
    tnx

  2. #32

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by tarsus
    Quote Originally Posted by dawn runner
    Quote Originally Posted by tarsus
    Quote Originally Posted by dawn runner
    Quote Originally Posted by SAUL
    Quote Originally Posted by bfginus
    Quote Originally Posted by giver_bert
    Religious institutions are generally non-profit..

    .. so having no income at all ...
    churches are non-profit organizations? yes, kon ang members pasultihon. But raking in profits they are. who was it who said that religion is the world's biggest business enterprise?
    hmmm i thnk religion is the next big thing to war..
    anyway there s already simony in the church so adunai profit..hehehe..pero ang 1987 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES sec. 6 article 2 states that "The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable "....lisod pa jud..
    I dont agree with the term profit. Profit is more appropriate to business. Religion is about vocation and dedicating ones life for his belief. Priest have to take care of their physical needs while tending the spiritual needs of its flock.

    To tell you about earnings of the Church, much of it is spent for Church maintenance, some of it is for subsidizing parochial schools, the rest go to Charity. I admit that the priest some kind of allowance. These people leave their families and forego marriage. They are entitled to few perks in life. We should be more understanding to them than being cynical.
    in my opinion it is okay to call it profit..coz it is a product of simony..syunana ka.. magpakasal ang bayad sang service nag vary..adonai special na-ai ordinary..service ang gina term nila ana..nya na-ay corresponding bayad..and if dili ka magpakasal sa imo parokya naa ka bayaran...mura ug multa..ma pugos pud ka kai dili man hatag sa kinahanglan para sa lain parokya...sa katoliko ni cya..

    mao man ni ang gitawag nila ug simony..
    Ayaw na lang pakasal. Gasto man kaha? Makagasto man gani ka ug beer ug lechon pero sa simbahan dili ka kahatag? Panagayoan ka lang ug gamay daghan kanag reklamo. balhin ug uban relihiyon o di ba pag live in na lang aron dili ka kabayad sa fee.
    ther goes another faithful...
    hey..its not asked..its fined...kanang akong gina ingon nga ad2 ka sa lain parokya pa kasal pabayaron ka sa inyoa parokya..ka bantai ka kid..
    also kanang beer ug lechon..? unsa man labot sa simbahan kun dili ko mo hatag..inana dai nang simbahan part kung dili ka mo hatag pa balhinon ka..mura man iskwelahan..bitaw nag live in man mi para dili ka bayad sa FEE....sus grabe ug rason no..naa btaw huwes dha..ug usa pa dong wala ko ga reklamo..nag mirror ko sa akong nakita..tngali wala ka ma reason maong ingon ana ka..

    mao dai na mugna ni nga phrase "Faith is the end of Reason" kai na diay mga parihas sa imoa nga tao..

    diay dong agnostic ko...so ayaw na lang ko bugawa sa lain relehiyon..hehe..
    tnx
    Aw daghan man ka ug reklamo, balhin na lang ug relihiyon. Kung agnostic ka di pwerting amawa nimo magpakasal ka sa katoliko di man motoo ug Ginoo.

    Sibat dong uy. Kung angal kas balaod sa simbahan layas!!!! Wa ka pugsa.

  3. #33

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    dawn runner...u really are a runner...wala jud ko ga reklamo ga mirrror ra lagi ko..kabantai ka..?hehe..bai nag live in gani kasabot ka binisaya jud na..tsk..tsk....haha....ingon ana nang mga religous..
    kapanahon pa man ka sa mga katsila ug huna2 kid..
    nganong mo sibat man ko nga wala man jud ko diha..sus asa jud imong rason..faithful..
    i have nothing against your church or relegion..pero respeto lang sab mo sa dli ninyo pariha ug pagtuo..never have i mocked ur church or u.. i thought nga mo rason or explain ka..not run..hino-un runner gani..
    by the way..profit jud di-ay kai FEE man ...ikaw ra ga ingon...hmm..
    dli jud magkasinabot ang managlain nga relihiyon mentras naa pa mga tao nga sama nimo..auau dong..

  4. #34

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    The Church and many other churches ARE non-profit. And the Church certainly does a far better job of managing funds than the government! So why should the Church give money (which it spends more effectively for the good of the people) to the government which loses as much as 40-70% of its revenues to corruption? That doesn't make any sense!

    All the pretentious anti-religious cynicism in the world is just so much hot air unless it can back up tis charges with evidence. So far, the evidence shows that the Church does more good with the money givben to it than the government. So why transfer money from those who serve us better to those who don't?

  5. #35

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    ^^true

  6. #36

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador
    The Church and many other churches ARE non-profit. And the Church certainly does a far better job of managing funds than the government! So why should the Church give money (which it spends more effectively for the good of the people) to the government which loses as much as 40-70% of its revenues to corruption? That doesn't make any sense!

    All the pretentious anti-religious cynicism in the world is just so much hot air unless it can back up tis charges with evidence. So far, the evidence shows that the Church does more good with the money givben to it than the government. So why transfer money from those who serve us better to those who don't?
    agree! naa to proposal si archbishop rosales of manila na imbis ihatag ang pork barel sa mga congressman ihatag nalang daw kono sa church nya ang church na ang bahala mo pahimo ug mga projects

  7. #37

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    basig kurakuton sa simbahan.

    Besides it is government who is duty bound to give an accounting for the people's money. The church will give an account with God.

    The separation of church and state is constitutionally enshrined. So dapat dili itax ang mga simbahan, some of them are rich, I know, but it doesnt mean that they should be taxed. Otherwise the state would be regulating the church which is a clear violation of church state separation.

  8. #38

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by tarsus
    dawn runner...u really are a runner...wala jud ko ga reklamo ga mirrror ra lagi ko..kabantai ka..?hehe..bai nag live in gani kasabot ka binisaya jud na..tsk..tsk....haha....ingon ana nang mga religous..
    kapanahon pa man ka sa mga katsila ug huna2 kid..
    nganong mo sibat man ko nga wala man jud ko diha..sus asa jud imong rason..faithful..
    i have nothing against your church or relegion..pero respeto lang sab mo sa dli ninyo pariha ug pagtuo..never have i mocked ur church or u.. i thought nga mo rason or explain ka..not run..hino-un runner gani..
    by the way..profit jud di-ay kai FEE man ...ikaw ra ga ingon...hmm..
    dli jud magkasinabot ang managlain nga relihiyon mentras naa pa mga tao nga sama nimo..auau dong..
    Unsay nothing against? Kining pag accuse nimo nga for profit ang simbahang katoliko usa ka pagdaut sa imahe sa among simbahan. Im a devout believer mao na kung maka basa ko ug post nga ingon niani masakitan.

    Gimahal nako ug maayo ang simbahan, mao nang masakitan ko kung pasakitan siya sa mga tawong sama nimo. As the saying goes, Im part of the Church, the one mystical body of Christ.

    Dont like hypocrites like you who always nitpick on the church. Get lost bay and your worthless posts too.

  9. #39

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by M@rv|n
    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador
    The Church and many other churches ARE non-profit. And the Church certainly does a far better job of managing funds than the government! So why should the Church give money (which it spends more effectively for the good of the people) to the government which loses as much as 40-70% of its revenues to corruption? That doesn't make any sense!

    All the pretentious anti-religious cynicism in the world is just so much hot air unless it can back up tis charges with evidence. So far, the evidence shows that the Church does more good with the money givben to it than the government. So why transfer money from those who serve us better to those who don't?
    agree! naa to proposal si archbishop rosales of manila na imbis ihatag ang pork barel sa mga congressman ihatag nalang daw kono sa church nya ang church na ang bahala mo pahimo ug mga projects
    Wow! Ayos kaayo ka bay Manny. kining anti religious bias sa kalibutan karon part na ni sa propaganda ni Taning aron daghang makabig ug mahisalaag.

    Bright kaayu imo ideas bay. I hand salute you.

  10. #40

    Default All religious denominations should pay taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by dawn runner
    Quote Originally Posted by tarsus
    dawn runner...u really are a runner...wala jud ko ga reklamo ga mirrror ra lagi ko..kabantai ka..?hehe..bai nag live in gani kasabot ka binisaya jud na..tsk..tsk....haha....ingon ana nang mga religous..
    kapanahon pa man ka sa mga katsila ug huna2 kid..
    nganong mo sibat man ko nga wala man jud ko diha..sus asa jud imong rason..faithful..
    i have nothing against your church or relegion..pero respeto lang sab mo sa dli ninyo pariha ug pagtuo..never have i mocked ur church or u.. i thought nga mo rason or explain ka..not run..hino-un runner gani..
    by the way..profit jud di-ay kai FEE man ...ikaw ra ga ingon...hmm..
    dli jud magkasinabot ang managlain nga relihiyon mentras naa pa mga tao nga sama nimo..auau dong..
    Unsay nothing against? Kining pag accuse nimo nga for profit ang simbahang katoliko usa ka pagdaut sa imahe sa among simbahan. Im a devout believer mao na kung maka basa ko ug post nga ingon niani masakitan.

    Gimahal nako ug maayo ang simbahan, mao nang masakitan ko kung pasakitan siya sa mga tawong sama nimo. As the saying goes, Im part of the Church, the one mystical body of Christ.

    Dont like hypocrites like you who always nitpick on the church. Get lost bay and your worthless posts too.

    it was posted already by another guy nga 1987 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES sec. 6 article 2 states that "The separation of Church and State shall be inviolabe"..so dili na mataksan unless mag charter change.

    hehe...hypocrites my friend are the ones who shout god in public..
    have u heard of fundamentalism?hehe bye..

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