Is the Illuminati or the Secret Societies Dead?

[LightBearer]

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Mga bro mga Mason ra ang mas nahibalo ani, better nga kung naa moy brothers nga mason it's better nga mangutana mo even ang mga U.S military nga ni retire na or nigawas sa serbisyo they knew this illuminati or mason agenda.

I know some Masons mga dagko ni sila og ego hahahahaha, no offense ha, but mga few good men ni sila.

any organization man sigoro nai agenda as long as maka ayo sa humanity then okay ko ana. for example ha, Jose Rizal was a freemason during sa time niya our country was under the oppressive regime sa mga Religious people, so gibatokan to ni Rizal kay gi suppressed man sa mga religous people ang freedom nato as Filipinos. gosto mo ma under sa rulership sa mga Religious people or sa mga komonista? do you like to live in fear and poverty? if you are sane ang tobag nimo is NO di ba?

we should thank the Illuminatis, Freemasons, Rosicrucians and other freedom fighters and keepers kay mao ni sila ang mga progressive thinker. di ni sila gosto og Government nga walay democracy ba.

kanang mga nadongog ninyo nga mga bati it was all made to smite the good standing of freemasons,Illuminatis and Rosicrucians .


I got this sa lain nga forum....

Jose Rizal died a Freemason. He never retracted his beliefs therefor he gained the enmity of the Church who placed heavy pressure for his death sentence. It was recorded in his conversations in Dapitan with Fr. Pastells and Fr. Sanchez that they offered him safety and longer life if he retracts his Masonic beliefs and returns to the catholic fold. Rizal never did. He stood by his beliefs to the death.

He died with a normal pulse, and he accepted his death as a very natural thing. His teacher Piy Margal is also a Freemason, as well as the key people of the revolution: Andres Bonifacio, Juan Luna, Apolinario Mabini.

Rizal supports spirituality but not religion. He wrote that religion divides people, spirituality unites them. He lived by Masonic teachings and this was what got him to be the Church's enemy no. 1. He was buried with no Christian blessing or fanfare: he was buried in an unmarked dirt heap in Paco cemetery where his sisters (also Masons) and mother faught hard to be given the right to bury him properly. In a few days after his death, the Masons in their full regalia offered him a decent "burial" (they fixed his tomb and paraded the streets of Manila where to the Filipino's suprise the frairs just watched and shrugged their shoulders).

Key Masonic teachings our national hero lived by:
1) freedom to search knowledge and share it in anyway you want
2) seperation of Church and State
3) no to opression of the individual's drive to excellence
4) freedom and tolerance of one's race and religion (no to religious and racial discrimination)
5) no to being hoodwinked to the truth by the religious/friars (science can offer a lot of explnations to the so called "miracles" propagated by the friars)
6) Religion, specifically in his time, supresses the individual from discovering the world out there. He wrote with passion that he despises the friars because they use religion to show that it is the only way to truth and salvation.

Do you think UST will discuss the real Rizal, his beliefs, and why he really died? I don't think so. The Catholic institution up to this day tries to hide and mask their loss in our national hero. Many Catholic Institutions have large libraries but the key books and documents about our "real" national hero are missing. If you want to see the books then search Masonic libraries here in the Philippines specifically there in the Grand Lodge at San Marcelino St.

You're looking for key issues? Here they are:
1) Rizal died a Freemason
2) He died because he never retracted his beliefs
3) He never married (or wasn't able to marry J. Bracken) because the Church won't grant them a wedding unless he retracted his Masonic beliefs
4) He died with a little gap between him and his mother (may tampo nanay nya sa kanya kasi pwede naman siya mabuhay pa eh mas pinili nyang mamatay para sa paniniwala nya)
5) Rizal as well as many of the heroes in our revolution are Freemasons

goodluck, and search well and wide. don't be hoodwinked and fixated on what your libraries and Priests offer.

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don't you know nga kini pod mga Religious organizations are aiming to rule the nations? look at Christianity bisan bawal sa Saudi ila jud gi penetrate, maka pangutana ta ngano kaha? same with Islam they are sponsoring mga otokan and mga influential nga mga tao to established The Islamic Faith sa Europe and USA. no offense ha, kong kani sila ang mo rule sa kalibotan kuyaw kaayo.

nganong kuyaw? kong dili ka motoo sa ilang ginoo is either putlan ka og olo or e exile ka. dili ni bohat bnohat nga story ha nahitabo na ni.


so kung naa man gani conspiracy I rather side with the freedom figthers kay sa mga religious people.

[skoilhp]

I know some Masons mga dagko ni sila og ego hahahahaha, no offense ha, but mga few good men ni sila.

any organization man sigoro nai agenda as long as maka ayo sa humanity then okay ko ana. for example ha, Jose Rizal was a freemason during sa time niya our country was under the oppressive regime sa mga Religious people, so gibatokan to ni Rizal kay gi suppressed man sa mga religous people ang freedom nato as Filipinos. gosto mo ma under sa rulership sa mga Religious people or sa mga komonista? do you like to live in fear and poverty? if you are sane ang tobag nimo is NO di ba?

we should thank the Illuminatis, Freemasons, Rosicrucians and other freedom fighters and keepers kay mao ni sila ang mga progressive thinker. di ni sila gosto og Government nga walay democracy ba.

kanang mga nadongog ninyo nga mga bati it was all made to smite the good standing of freemasons,Illuminatis and Rosicrucians .


I got this sa lain nga forum....

Jose Rizal died a Freemason. He never retracted his beliefs therefor he gained the enmity of the Church who placed heavy pressure for his death sentence. It was recorded in his conversations in Dapitan with Fr. Pastells and Fr. Sanchez that they offered him safety and longer life if he retracts his Masonic beliefs and returns to the catholic fold. Rizal never did. He stood by his beliefs to the death.

He died with a normal pulse, and he accepted his death as a very natural thing. His teacher Piy Margal is also a Freemason, as well as the key people of the revolution: Andres Bonifacio, Juan Luna, Apolinario Mabini.

Rizal supports spirituality but not religion. He wrote that religion divides people, spirituality unites them. He lived by Masonic teachings and this was what got him to be the Church's enemy no. 1. He was buried with no Christian blessing or fanfare: he was buried in an unmarked dirt heap in Paco cemetery where his sisters (also Masons) and mother faught hard to be given the right to bury him properly. In a few days after his death, the Masons in their full regalia offered him a decent "burial" (they fixed his tomb and paraded the streets of Manila where to the Filipino's suprise the frairs just watched and shrugged their shoulders).

Key Masonic teachings our national hero lived by:
1) freedom to search knowledge and share it in anyway you want
2) seperation of Church and State
3) no to opression of the individual's drive to excellence
4) freedom and tolerance of one's race and religion (no to religious and racial discrimination)
5) no to being hoodwinked to the truth by the religious/friars (science can offer a lot of explnations to the so called "miracles" propagated by the friars)
6) Religion, specifically in his time, supresses the individual from discovering the world out there. He wrote with passion that he despises the friars because they use religion to show that it is the only way to truth and salvation.

Do you think UST will discuss the real Rizal, his beliefs, and why he really died? I don't think so. The Catholic institution up to this day tries to hide and mask their loss in our national hero. Many Catholic Institutions have large libraries but the key books and documents about our "real" national hero are missing. If you want to see the books then search Masonic libraries here in the Philippines specifically there in the Grand Lodge at San Marcelino St.

You're looking for key issues? Here they are:
1) Rizal died a Freemason
2) He died because he never retracted his beliefs
3) He never married (or wasn't able to marry J. Bracken) because the Church won't grant them a wedding unless he retracted his Masonic beliefs
4) He died with a little gap between him and his mother (may tampo nanay nya sa kanya kasi pwede naman siya mabuhay pa eh mas pinili nyang mamatay para sa paniniwala nya)
5) Rizal as well as many of the heroes in our revolution are Freemasons

goodluck, and search well and wide. don't be hoodwinked and fixated on what your libraries and Priests offer.

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----------------------------------------------------------

don't you know nga kini pod mga Religious organizations are aiming to rule the nations? look at Christianity bisan bawal sa Saudi ila jud gi penetrate, maka pangutana ta ngano kaha? same with Islam they are sponsoring mga otokan and mga influential nga mga tao to established The Islamic Faith sa Europe and USA. no offense ha, kong kani sila ang mo rule sa kalibotan kuyaw kaayo.

nganong kuyaw? kong dili ka motoo sa ilang ginoo is either putlan ka og olo or e exile ka. dili ni bohat bnohat nga story ha nahitabo na ni.


so kung naa man gani conspiracy I rather side with the freedom figthers kay sa mga religious people.

a very nice post LightBearer!

[LightBearer]

a very nice post LightBearer!

Salamat skoilhp.

I hope nga ang mga freemasons and Rosicrucians would continue building the structure of democracy.

[SOKOLI]

the new world order ?......... seems like man is created to destroy itself.

[bungot25]

Rizal chose to be damned than to save his soul....thats the sad thing being a freemason!

[miyay]

rizal chose rather than be damned

[LightBearer]

Rizal chose to be damned than to save his soul....thats the sad thing being a freemason!

right and he became a national hero.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

rizal chose rather than be damned

brother rizal chose to be free.

[The_Child]

I know some Masons mga dagko ni sila og ego hahahahaha, no offense ha, but mga few good men ni sila.

any organization man sigoro nai agenda as long as maka ayo sa humanity then okay ko ana. for example ha, Jose Rizal was a freemason during sa time niya our country was under the oppressive regime sa mga Religious people, so gibatokan to ni Rizal kay gi suppressed man sa mga religous people ang freedom nato as Filipinos. gosto mo ma under sa rulership sa mga Religious people or sa mga komonista? do you like to live in fear and poverty? if you are sane ang tobag nimo is NO di ba?

we should thank the Illuminatis, Freemasons, Rosicrucians and other freedom fighters and keepers kay mao ni sila ang mga progressive thinker. di ni sila gosto og Government nga walay democracy ba.

kanang mga nadongog ninyo nga mga bati it was all made to smite the good standing of freemasons,Illuminatis and Rosicrucians .


I got this sa lain nga forum....

Jose Rizal died a Freemason. He never retracted his beliefs therefor he gained the enmity of the Church who placed heavy pressure for his death sentence. It was recorded in his conversations in Dapitan with Fr. Pastells and Fr. Sanchez that they offered him safety and longer life if he retracts his Masonic beliefs and returns to the catholic fold. Rizal never did. He stood by his beliefs to the death.

He died with a normal pulse, and he accepted his death as a very natural thing. His teacher Piy Margal is also a Freemason, as well as the key people of the revolution: Andres Bonifacio, Juan Luna, Apolinario Mabini.

Rizal supports spirituality but not religion. He wrote that religion divides people, spirituality unites them. He lived by Masonic teachings and this was what got him to be the Church's enemy no. 1. He was buried with no Christian blessing or fanfare: he was buried in an unmarked dirt heap in Paco cemetery where his sisters (also Masons) and mother faught hard to be given the right to bury him properly. In a few days after his death, the Masons in their full regalia offered him a decent "burial" (they fixed his tomb and paraded the streets of Manila where to the Filipino's suprise the frairs just watched and shrugged their shoulders).

Key Masonic teachings our national hero lived by:
1) freedom to search knowledge and share it in anyway you want
2) seperation of Church and State
3) no to opression of the individual's drive to excellence
4) freedom and tolerance of one's race and religion (no to religious and racial discrimination)
5) no to being hoodwinked to the truth by the religious/friars (science can offer a lot of explnations to the so called "miracles" propagated by the friars)
6) Religion, specifically in his time, supresses the individual from discovering the world out there. He wrote with passion that he despises the friars because they use religion to show that it is the only way to truth and salvation.

Do you think UST will discuss the real Rizal, his beliefs, and why he really died? I don't think so. The Catholic institution up to this day tries to hide and mask their loss in our national hero. Many Catholic Institutions have large libraries but the key books and documents about our "real" national hero are missing. If you want to see the books then search Masonic libraries here in the Philippines specifically there in the Grand Lodge at San Marcelino St.

You're looking for key issues? Here they are:
1) Rizal died a Freemason
2) He died because he never retracted his beliefs
3) He never married (or wasn't able to marry J. Bracken) because the Church won't grant them a wedding unless he retracted his Masonic beliefs
4) He died with a little gap between him and his mother (may tampo nanay nya sa kanya kasi pwede naman siya mabuhay pa eh mas pinili nyang mamatay para sa paniniwala nya)
5) Rizal as well as many of the heroes in our revolution are Freemasons

goodluck, and search well and wide. don't be hoodwinked and fixated on what your libraries and Priests offer.

----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------

don't you know nga kini pod mga Religious organizations are aiming to rule the nations? look at Christianity bisan bawal sa Saudi ila jud gi penetrate, maka pangutana ta ngano kaha? same with Islam they are sponsoring mga otokan and mga influential nga mga tao to established The Islamic Faith sa Europe and USA. no offense ha, kong kani sila ang mo rule sa kalibotan kuyaw kaayo.

nganong kuyaw? kong dili ka motoo sa ilang ginoo is either putlan ka og olo or e exile ka. dili ni bohat bnohat nga story ha nahitabo na ni.


so kung naa man gani conspiracy I rather side with the freedom figthers kay sa mga religious people.

does ust teach the real rizal? hehehe. this has a lot of presumptions.
it presumes there is real rizal? but who is the real rizal? according to guerrero? according to ocampo? according to zaide?

the problem with Philippine history is that it is a victim of its own analysis, particularly colonialism. we have the notion that ust because it is a royal and pontifical university is deplorably close-minded, dogmatic, and exactly the school which rizal alludes to in his novels? ( a tendency of our history to demonize spanish colonialism) this is of course a joke. ust even during time of rizal has a very impressive library, and even today, in the philippines i think its library is only equaled by ateneo. back then, ust already possess copies books on masonry, on voltaire, so many books that is even 'indexed' by the church.

and even today, whether rizal really retracted his membership from masonry is left to interpretation. there is NO compelling evidence yet in any rizal literature that can prove with certainty that he retracted or not his affiliation to masonry.

[LightBearer]

thank you for your input sir.