MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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Human rights here and human rights there . Pero asa ang human rights sa mga biktima sa mga biktima sa vigilantes ?? Hehehehe .... kuyaw na ang panahon karon ilabi sa Pilipinas na di mo uyon patyon ang mga kriminal sa vigilantes kay naa tay due process of law pero ok ninyo na patyon sa mga kriminal ang mga inosente kay naa pod tay due process sa law ..... hehehe ...... wala tay due process of law oi !! Ang vigilaqntes naay due process of law , KALIBRE .45... at least effective and with results . Ang due process sa inosente ?? Ma preso pa ang inosente ug ang kriminal maluwas sa kalaki nila .

[nopeace]

shempre kung ang mayor kawatan, badlongon jud na.. sakto diay na iya gibuhat?

ok raman unta kanang paagi jud sa LAW ang punishment..
pero mga brad, bisan asa man gud naay kurakot..

maayu unta kun masaligan ang judge..
unsaon naman lang ang LAW kun ang judge kurakot?

kung ang mga kriminal maka luwas ug masulbad ila problema paagi sa ilegal,
mahimo rapud tingali sila bawsan paagi sa illegal..
--------------angay ra hinuon ni kun sigurado nga mao na ang kriminal..

pero kung mapasayluon jud kaayu uban taw diha.. wa na tay mabuhat ana..

[chitgoks]

ako kay ok ko ani idea sa vigilante group. problema lang, usahay masipyat kay dili diay guilty ang ila gipatay. what if simbako imo relative nabirahan by mistake. im sure mo kuntra na dayon kas idea about that vigilante group he he he

ang problema lang ngano dili mawala ning mga problema kay atong laws, cute ra kayo. dapat kung masapnan mang rape, putlon ang .... kung mangawat, putlon ang kamot. kung pila ka years ipriso, dapat life imprisonment. kana.. ha ha ha

[giver_bert]

those who order and perpetrate these killings obviously think that there is nothing wrong with terminating these criminals with extreme prejudice.. they probably think they are doing society a favor because they are getting rid of these criminals, they are defending society from evil people.. they believe that the elimination of these criminals is a deterrent to crime.. thus, they act as prosecutor, judge and executioner – carrying out capital punishment.. it is pretty evident that there are many ordinary citizens who think the same way.. that is why there is very little public outcry and i myself share the same sentiments..

however, in spite of good intentions, we can't deny the fact that the means used is not only illegal, it is also immoral.. the end does not justify the means.. we cannot achieve a good end with evil means.. it is not right to fight crime by committing a crime.. by all means, let those in authority should go after the criminals, bring them to justice and punish them appropriately.. but they should use means that are legally and morally right.. they should not become what they abhor..

there is no need to become criminals in the fight against criminals..

[Empress_Of_Drac]

viglilante killing is evil.
it's against the law. it's against morals.

but there's one good that this evil brings.
if it helps eliminate one criminal evil,
it helps society to have one evil less in its midst.

its now evil fighting against another evil.
and in the clash of demons, a demon is sure to fall.
and society sure to have a lesser number of their kind.

is the clash between evil and evil, in itself, morally good?
so, suporta na lang ta sa vigilante killings dinhi karon, o dili?

nah, nah, nah,....it's evil...and their's no good on evil..toink..heheheh..honestly mas oki na na..at least makuha kuhaan ang palamyunon sa kalibutan..toink..pagkaimmoral..btaw...it's really againts our law to kill people without prosecuting justice first...la ta kahibalo basin dili diay to kriminal tong ilang gipatay...but cant blame tito osmeña for implementin' asuch gross action...graveeehhh naman sad jud au ang krimen dri sa cebu..labi na tong mga journalist nga gfatay..but f we'll be talkin' of equality then...la jud tay equality nga makuha ana..coz eventhough they are criminals they still deserve proper prosecution of justice..makalagot kaayo no? labi nag ikaw ang mahingtungdan sa biktima...pero mao man jud na siyay balaud..dili na na nato matuis...f we love peace and order we must become law abiding citizens...vigilante groups actions are not assurance nga mahunong na ang grabeng krimen sa atong lugar...ang kinahanglang buhaton sa atong lokal nga kapulisan mao ang pagpalig on pa sa ilang pwersa..nga they must be true to their service..ngano lagi ang mga fbi...ngano lagi nga mahunt man jud nila ang mga kriminal?...all our police needs are more proper trainings, discipline, and correct attitude at work...dli kay mag cge lang ug katulog..paduko sa tiyan...mao raman jud nay kuwang cguro ba...true service lang jud gkan sa gobyerno para sa mga tawo...amvot lang...if only government officials are selfless enough...if they are only true to their pledges and promises..hahahay..this country would be a better place to live jud unta..la untay daghang mangabrod..toink..hehehe..dri nalang ko kutob oi,,na ot naman ko..heheheh..LipoSUCKZZ!!!!!pax pipzzz!!

[n`gel]

I have to agree with giver_bert. God's law says respect the law of the land. If we talk about morality in the Philippines considerng we are a Christian country, the majority are supposed to condemn these acts. But I know justice in our country is very frustrating. I guess, when one of these vigilantes kill all corrupt government officials, heh, tanan gyud corrupt, then they will win my respect.

[splendid moonlight]

laws evolve. law back in the days would require all crime suspects to jump in a river full of crocodiles, or let them submerge their hands in a bowl full of ants or some such thing and whosoever emerge the more hurt is made the criminal (that is if they can still emerge alive). it was absurd but it worked for them. but all that has changed. laws evolve because the law preceding it no longer works. maybe that is why vigilantism is born. in that case, vigilants are not the only ones to blame. their deed is evil, but what is more evil is what has made them. and that is our law - wavering.

but in hating people who hate, you become one of them. and in killing people who kill, you become one of them. so that the number grows. and hope in the few remaining, wavers.

[Empress_Of_Drac]

laws evolve. law back in the days would require all crime suspects to jump in a river full of crocodiles, or let them submerge their hands in a bowl full of ants or some such thing and whosoever emerge the more hurt is made the criminal (that is if they can still emerge alive). it was absurd but it worked for them. but all that has changed. laws evolve because the law preceding it no longer works. maybe that is why vigilantism is born. in that case, vigilants are not the only ones to blame. their deed is evil, but what is more evil is what has made them. and that is our law - wavering.

but in hating people who hate, you become one of them. and in killing people who kill, you become one of them. so that the number grows. and hope in the few remaining, wavers.

what about in world wars...wherein an army has to kill the armies of the enemies...

[n`gel]

But that is war, empress, can't see any comparison. Enlighten me.

[giver_bert]

laws evolve. law back in the days would require all crime suspects to jump in a river full of crocodiles, or let them submerge their hands in a bowl full of ants or some such thing and whosoever emerge the more hurt is made the criminal (that is if they can still emerge alive). it was absurd but it worked for them. but all that has changed. laws evolve because the law preceding it no longer works. maybe that is why vigilantism is born. in that case, vigilants are not the only ones to blame. their deed is evil, but what is more evil is what has made them. and that is our law - wavering. .

with the looks of it.. don't you think we're somehow backtracking instead to evolving?