The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[LaBelleza]

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hmmmmmm your question is like "why do we confess to God up to now, didn't he just died for our sins long time ago?"

God died for us??

[dartzed]

God died for us??

yeah i know but if you have sinned right now do you think your sin is the sin he died for? if so then wala na kay sala d i krn even if makasala ka?

like the scripture said we are born with the sins sa ato forefathers, parents, granparents etc..

[LaBelleza]

wala na kay sala d i krn even if makasala ka? - something about getting married?

I find it more acceptable to believe that we are all born in the state of "fitrah" (innocence and purity), acting in accordance to nature/how God intended. Just like plants and animals.

You said God died for us. Is this because u believe Jesus is God? Coz I see some ppl do and some don't. I definitely don't. Or the son of God. Which brings me to another thing: The holy trinity - God is three concept. How can God be three? Some tell me it's God, Jesus and Maryam. And an interesting one; the parts of an egg (embryo, yolk and shell).

Gonna digress a bit but right now there is a man (here in Aust) claiming to be Jesus and his wife is Mary Magdalene. He's a cult leader and his name is A.J Miller. If ur interested.

[RegisteredNewbie]

kung mao imong buhaton, then it shows you're faith is not real... remember that God is all-knowing, He knows what's in your heart so no amount of pretending to have true faith will gain you entrance to heaven... kung sa kontrata pa ni, mao ni ang "fine lines"... Kung mag-claim ka nga mudawat ka sa Ginoo pero imo intentions and imo sincerity wala, then useless ra... ikaw ra ug Ginoo nakasabot ana... mao ni'y problema sa tao kay VISUAL ra kaayo ta nga mga creatures... kulang ta ug "FAITH"...

FAITH = GOOD WORKS + SALVATION (mao ning giingon nga if your faith is not manifested by or not resulting to good works, then something's wrong with your faith)

dili

GOOD WORKS + FAITH = SALVATION ("magbinuutan ta ug buhaton nato tanan para maluwas ta kay kulang ra tong gibuhat ni Jesu kristo sa Kalbaryo"... makapagarbo ka sa imo kaugalingon ani kay imo gud nang binuhatan ngano naluwas ka plus asa man ang grasya sa Ginoo ani? Salvation is a gift... naa ba'y gift nga gitrabahuan? all you need to do is receive...)

and please where in the hell did you'd get the "we'd spit on HIM and rejecting and disobeying HIS commands"?... how can one do that and still have faith?!!!!! COMMON SENSE intawn oi...

hehehe... brownout gyud diay diring dapita.. naa gihapon mo sa kangitngit...
^^^^^ mao pud diay, FYI, gidugang sa Katoliko ang libro sa Maccabees kay naa man diha ang teaching sa purgatoryo.. hehehehe... not the other way around... hehehehe... hehehehe...

bai sayop man tingai imu formula, base sa imung giingon..

FAITH = GOOD WORKS + SALVATION (mao ning giingon nga if your faith is not manifested by or not resulting to good works, then something's wrong with your faith)

means, FAITH = SALVATION > (resulting to) GOOD WORKS..

[SioDenz]

Very interesting question. In fact, sa akong tan-aw, kaning doctrina bahin sa original sin usa ni sa kinalawoman nga teaching sa simbahan. Ubay2x pud nga mga libro sa theology ang gi-dedicate aron lang pag-explain ani.



Original sin is actually an effect, not a cause. Original sin is not the actual fault of a new born baby.

For example, a father won a lottery. He instantly became a millionaire. After several years, because of a series of bad financial decisions, his family ended poorer than they were before winning the lottery.

Before, they were living in a fully furnished villa. Now, they are staying in a very small nipa hut unya buslot pa gyud ang atop. Kun mag-ulan, magkapuliki silag tago aron lang dili mabasa.

The whole family, including his 6-month old son is experiencing the effect of his original decisions. In that way, we can say that the new born baby has inherited the original mistake of his father.

This is the same as the original sin. It is not the actual fault that is passed down but the consequences of the original sinful choice.

So unsay doctrina sa Catholics regarding kanang mga bata mamatay for example, unsay chance sa ilang kalag?

[dartzed]

wala na kay sala d i krn even if makasala ka? - something about getting married?

I find it more acceptable to believe that we are all born in the state of "fitrah" (innocence and purity), acting in accordance to nature/how God intended. Just like plants and animals.

i believe the Nature of Man is Evil, even an innocent child knows how to lie without telling the child how to do it.

You said God died for us. Is this because u believe Jesus is God? Coz I see some ppl do and some don't. I definitely don't. Or the son of God. Which brings me to another thing: The holy trinity - God is three concept. How can God be three? Some tell me it's God, Jesus and Maryam. And an interesting one; the parts of an egg (embryo, yolk and shell).

please refer to the previews posts on this.

Gonna digress a bit but right now there is a man (here in Aust) claiming to be Jesus and his wife is Mary Magdalene. He's a cult leader and his name is A.J Miller. If ur interested.

ok and how is it related to our topic?

[SioDenz]

i believe the Nature of Man is Evil, even an innocent child knows how to lie without telling the child how to do it.

So what if ang bata namatay before nabunyagan? asa padulong ang kalag? naay chance malangit?

how about bata namatay wala pay 1 year old pero nabunyagan na, unsa say mahitabo sa kalag?

[LaBelleza]

Okie then. But if Jesus is God or the same as God and in John (14:2, Jesus (pbuh) says something like "My Father is greater than I". This shows he's not God. Jesus (pbuh) and God can't be one coz there are attributes of God that Jesus didn't possess. Like being All-kwowing, All-powerful. Jesus acknowledged God as someone greater than himself. If he prayed to God (swt), was he also praying to himself

Oh the AJ Miller was kinda random. That's why I said I was gonna digress a bit.

Nature is what God intended. So ur saying God's intentions are evil?

Another thing I would like to know, if ya don't mind me asking is about the confessions thing. Do u do it? How does it feel? When I went to church I never felt the need to confess to a man in a box. Only to God.

[LaBelleza]

i believe the Nature of Man is Evil, even an innocent child knows how to lie without telling the child how to do it.

But they don't know that it's wrong/bad.

[malic_2]

@LaBelleza

Salam, Keifahaluk? men ayna anti?