There is no such thing as HEAVEN.

[prukutung]

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no one can tell... only the bible and other books describe heaven... the rest, no one can tell..

[nikxz unÖ]

Many people claim that they experience heaven - mysticism, revelation or direct experience.. many claim this near death.. how can we verify these claims..? we know that mystical experience can be caused by hallucinogenic drugs, magnetic fields, brain injuries and well studied mental illness such as schizophrenia and seizures.. experiences that they are in heaven seems to be very similar to catharsis.. near death experience, likely result of brain cells misfiring when they are oxygen deprived, and stimulated by drugs.. many people claims experience heaven, don't even agree with each other.. the only way to verify these claims and mysticism, is able to be accurate, repeatedly, and verifiable.. we all know we like magic, but we don't have to be a fool.. still we need bases on external reality..

[regnauld]

Heaven is a STATE not a PLACE and not a THING!

[grovestreet]

i think it's common sense na...

[nikxz unÖ]

if you say the feeling, the state it self..
i agree with you sir reg.. it exist..
but for some people.. they consider it as the place..
and thats another thing..

[kit_cebu]

if there is none, i believe so is a god...

well, i may have a little belief that there was a jesus before, but he died...

[miyay]

Re: There is no such thing as HEAVEN.

true? how sad....

[regnauld]

during the last years of my college days i finally decided to take the military course, i was lucky i wasn't part of the ROTC world coz my bro enrolled me to CWS (civic welfare services) run by religious education teachers... to cut the long story as part of the course we had a 3 days and 2 nights sort of retreat handled by a priest (well-known) and few of our religious instructors @ school. I won't mention any names na lang... anyways one morning we had a lecture about Jesus's real purpose on earth and as expected a lot of us shared opinions and ideas regarding the topic.... but one topic made us very silent and really quite for a few seconds when the priest said “there is no such thing as heaven� and this news comes straight from vatican that they have to spread the news carefully and discreetly to the members of the church coz this is a very sensitive issue of course this might lead to something unwanted. Sa akong pagka siaw na student i was speechless for a couple of minutes,.. and then i told my friends about it... i hear different reactions and opinions, maybe you too can share your ideas.


as for my view regarding this.... yes there is no such thing as heaven.

Actually, what the priest told you was that HEAVEN IS NOT a PLACE therefore there is no such thing as heaven or hell for that matter. What he meant was that HEAVEN and HELL are purely STATES or CONDITIONS. HEAVEN is HERE and NOW or NEVER.

[ilovedogs]

mutuo ko basta naay namatay din nabuhi ug balik. but til that happens, il stick to the notion that heaven exists.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

when you reach cloud 9 mura man sad na siyag heaven. hehehe.