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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    haha. are there any? are you sure you have understood their meaning?


    and that my friend, is a very good example.


    ah, but does this priest do what is required in those books? does this friend priest of yours have wives? or does this friend take lives of those who blasphemes his Lord?


    is STUDY MATERIAL and BASIS FOR FAITH the same?


    i believe that i have posted: "the bible cannot contradict itself". hm, wait, i didn't say PERFECTION anywhere now, did i?


    OT: it is spelled as existence.



    haha. i laughed at this comedy show that you have pointed out. i watched this a long time ago, in a convention discussing the film's errors. quality science was nowhere to be found. the show was clearly one sided as the scientists interviewed for it present their fantastic claims unchallenged.

    take the accounts of Michael Cremo. he claims that humans have lived for many many millions of years into the past. and the scientific community has been covering this fact. blah blah blah. he also claims that hiding anomalous results prevents science from progressing. blah blah blah. so, how can he explain the speed of how science progresses?

    next up is Carl Baugh, an anthropologist(or is he?). he talked about the supposed human footprints found beside dino tracks. did the film mention that this was already explained by scientist Ronnie Hastings et altera?

    just pointing out a few of this films "misleading" arguments. more talk. less science. a very funny movie indeed. nice try, though.
    Here's another contradiction. Solve this pastor!

    Bible Contradiction #2


    The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?

    In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    haha. are there any? are you sure you have understood their meaning?


    and that my friend, is a very good example.


    ah, but does this priest do what is required in those books? does this friend priest of yours have wives? or does this friend take lives of those who blasphemes his Lord?


    is STUDY MATERIAL and BASIS FOR FAITH the same?


    i believe that i have posted: "the bible cannot contradict itself". hm, wait, i didn't say PERFECTION anywhere now, did i?


    OT: it is spelled as existence.



    haha. i laughed at this comedy show that you have pointed out. i watched this a long time ago, in a convention discussing the film's errors. quality science was nowhere to be found. the show was clearly one sided as the scientists interviewed for it present their fantastic claims unchallenged.

    take the accounts of Michael Cremo. he claims that humans have lived for many many millions of years into the past. and the scientific community has been covering this fact. blah blah blah. he also claims that hiding anomalous results prevents science from progressing. blah blah blah. so, how can he explain the speed of how science progresses?

    next up is Carl Baugh, an anthropologist(or is he?). he talked about the supposed human footprints found beside dino tracks. did the film mention that this was already explained by scientist Ronnie Hastings et altera?

    just pointing out a few of this films "misleading" arguments. more talk. less science. a very funny movie indeed. nice try, though.
    So far no one had refuted the findings of science that man lived millions of years ago. That's why they were unchallenged. (that's common sense pastor and YOURS from the Bible is more ABSURD than this) Your Adam and Eve story is just purely a MYTH! I challenge you to PRESENT FACTS to refute ALL these EVIDENCES claimed by science.
    More talk. Less science? now who's talking much? and you try to use your logic with "misleading" arguments? ok present your case to refute all their claims one by one. Not just Ronnie Hastings and give me the link.

    Do you still subscribe with your Adam and Story Myth as if they were true? think again.

    By the way try to solve the Bible Contradiction: The Genealogy of Jesus and I will give you more verses about bible errors and contradictions for you to solve
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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Here's another contradiction. Solve this pastor!

    Bible Contradiction #2


    The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?

    In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.
    haha. weak kaayo na argument. didn't you notice a similarity between some names? (Zorobabel --> Zerubbabel). do you actually think that the two testimonies are "uncut"? if you study these excerpts, you will notice that the genealogy given is shorter than it would be if "time" is considered. so, considering na "telescoped" ang duha ka genealogy, do you expect them to be exactly the same? you seem to interpret the bible in verbatim.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    So far no one has refuted the findings of science that man lived millions of years ago. That's why they were unchallenged. (that's common sense pastor)
    haha. again, you don't seem to understand. did the scientific community accept that man lived millions of years ago? post kuno ug encyclopedia na nag state as such. "theories" ra to ang naa sa comedy show na imo gipakita. when i said "unchallenged" it did not mean "their findings" were irrefutable. it meant that their "fantasies"/claims were not given proper balance. did they even interview people against their ideas? no.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Your Adam and Eve story is just purely a MYTH! I challenge you to PRESENT FACTS to refute ALL these EVIDENCES claimed by science.
    is the bible supposed to be interpreted in verbatim in its totality? hahaha.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    More talk. Less science? now who's talking much? and you try to use your logic with "misleading" arguments? ok present your case to refute all their claims one by one. Not just Ronnie Hastings and give me the link.
    refuting them one by one will be an actual waste of time. but here are some to satisfy your weak logic:

    Man lived million years ago?
    so-called evidences:

    • fossilised finger of man - hahaha. so, is human finger preserved easier than a tougher dinosoar skin? COMMON SENSE. give me a name of any well-known scientist who supports this claim, or a well known encyclopedia that publishes this finding.
    • large human footprint - it shows severe anatomic problems, including an excessively wide ball area, misplaced arch, and excessively long and misshapen toes. so, there is a doctor claiming it to be true. can you give me 10 more?
    • human footprints beside dinosaurs - haha. absurd. does the scientific community accept this? do you not know that there are dinosaurs which make elongate, metatarsal tracks? (therefore emulating that of a human)
    • the "dinosaur" carcass from sea - gyahahaha. just about all scientists believe it was a shark, based on tissue samples and the fact that basking sharks often decay into what appear to be pseudo-plesiosaur carcasses. The show actually used this shark carcass as "evidence" that dinosaurs are still alive today.

    links:


    get your scientific facts straight. and, oh, if you ever see an encyclopedia (collier's, wikipedia, britannica, webster, etc) that supports these claim, tell me. hahaha.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Do you still subscribe with your Adam and Story Myth as if they were true? think again.
    haha. a careless hypothesis. did i ever say/imply this?
    Spoiler! 
    well, i did expect nothing less from you. XD


    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    By the way try to solve the bible contradiction: The Genealogy of Jesus and I will give you more verses about bible errors and contradictions for you to solve
    hahaha. no sweat. a very easy "contradiction" to explain. see above. XD

    so, does the scientific community actually ACCEPT the findings in that comedy show? do they actually teach those findings in school as of today? give me 10 schools here in cebu that teach those "theories", and i'll give you a hundred that don't. XD

    this will be my last post regarding your arguments. i have concluded that it will be foolish to argue with someone who does not stick to SCIENTIFIC FACTS, RELIGIOUS THEOLOGY and COMMON SENSE. i rest my case.

    cheers.

    XD (haha. can't stop laughing, pasensya)
    Spoiler! 
    "If writers wrote as carelessly as you talk, then adhasdh asdglaseuyt[bn[ pasdlgkhasdfasdf."

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    You seemed to be like a Bible Scholar! How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father? hahaha Where is your LOGIC, Theology and COMMON SENSE here brilliant pastor?!!! And you call me foolish? Think again pastor from what denomination are you?

    Bible Contradiction #3: The Old and The New Testament
    From Flying Fish
    i don't know if this is contradiction, but for instance the teachings between the old testament & the new, they seem to clash with each other, sa old testament the god is very angry & vengeful, sa new kay gentlemen kay si jesus, turn the other cheek, etc. how do you find this seeming contradiction?
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    God good to all, or just a few? (A Merciful and a Punishing God?) This is related from the previous thread!

    PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
    JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    haha. weak kaayo na argument. didn't you notice a similarity between some names? (Zorobabel --> Zerubbabel). do you actually think that the two testimonies are "uncut"? if you study these excerpts, you will notice that the genealogy given is shorter than it would be if "time" is considered. so, considering na "telescoped" ang duha ka genealogy, do you expect them to be exactly the same? you seem to interpret the bible in verbatim.


    haha. again, you don't seem to understand. did the scientific community accept that man lived millions of years ago? post kuno ug encyclopedia na nag state as such. "theories" ra to ang naa sa comedy show na imo gipakita. when i said "unchallenged" it did not mean "their findings" were irrefutable. it meant that their "fantasies"/claims were not given proper balance. did they even interview people against their ideas? no.


    is the bible supposed to be interpreted in verbatim in its totality? hahaha.


    refuting them one by one will be an actual waste of time. but here are some to satisfy your weak logic:

    Man lived million years ago?
    so-called evidences:

    • fossilised finger of man - hahaha. so, is human finger preserved easier than a tougher dinosoar skin? COMMON SENSE. give me a name of any well-known scientist who supports this claim, or a well known encyclopedia that publishes this finding.
    • large human footprint - it shows severe anatomic problems, including an excessively wide ball area, misplaced arch, and excessively long and misshapen toes. so, there is a doctor claiming it to be true. can you give me 10 more?
    • human footprints beside dinosaurs - haha. absurd. does the scientific community accept this? do you not know that there are dinosaurs which make elongate, metatarsal tracks? (therefore emulating that of a human)
    • the "dinosaur" carcass from sea - gyahahaha. just about all scientists believe it was a shark, based on tissue samples and the fact that basking sharks often decay into what appear to be pseudo-plesiosaur carcasses. The show actually used this shark carcass as "evidence" that dinosaurs are still alive today.
    links:


    get your scientific facts straight. and, oh, if you ever see an encyclopedia (collier's, wikipedia, britannica, webster, etc) that supports these claim, tell me. hahaha.


    haha. a careless hypothesis. did i ever say/imply this?
    Spoiler! 
    well, i did expect nothing less from you. XD



    hahaha. no sweat. a very easy "contradiction" to explain. see above. XD

    so, does the scientific community actually ACCEPT the findings in that comedy show? do they actually teach those findings in school as of today? give me 10 schools here in cebu that teach those "theories", and i'll give you a hundred that don't. XD

    this will be my last post regarding your arguments. i have concluded that it will be foolish to argue with someone who does not stick to SCIENTIFIC FACTS, RELIGIOUS THEOLOGY and COMMON SENSE. i rest my case.

    cheers.

    XD (haha. can't stop laughing, pasensya)
    Spoiler! 
    "If writers wrote as carelessly as you talk, then adhasdh asdglaseuyt[bn[ pasdlgkhasdfasdf."
    Now, try to solve the Bible Contradiction #3 above pastor!

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    "Stop fooling around, Benedict!"

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    Lev 19:2
    "Speak to the whole Israelite community and tell them: Be holy, for I, the LORD your God, am holy"

    if you believe in the bible, then it means, everyone can become holy. not just the Israelites but everyone. especially the pope.

    no comment for those who don't believe in the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    Lev 19:2
    "Speak to the whole Israelite community and tell them: Be holy, for I, the LORD your God, am holy"

    if you believe in the bible, then it means, everyone can become holy. not just the Israelites but everyone. especially the pope.

    no comment for those who don't believe in the bible.
    I believe in the bible but it it is not only the source of TRUTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I believe in the bible but it it is not only the source of TRUTH!
    who ask you to be the only source of truth? wrong thread ka bro.

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