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  1. #3341

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcuenco View Post

    Check it out at Wikipedia if you want. Here is a preview:

    The term apocrypha is used with various meanings, including "hidden", "esoteric", "spurious", "of questionable authenticity", ancient Chinese "revealed texts and objects" and "Christian texts that are not canonical".

    Read on if you want from Wikipedia. Basin mo ingon na pud ka akong gi tuyo og putol.
    Imo gyud bitaw giputol. I don't know if intentional ba o dili. Pero murag hilig gyud ka mobawas sa nasulat. Nia ang imong giputol ay:
    Apocrypha, according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary, means "books included in the Septuagint and Vulgate but excluded from the Jewish and Protestant canons of the Old Testament."

    src: Apocrypha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Kanang Septuagint ug Vulgate mao man na ang bible sa unang mga kristyanos. Kining mga 'apocryphal' books giapil ni sa bible sa unang mga kristyanos. Pero kining mga libroha WALA ni giapil sa mga protestante ug sa mga Hudiyo. See? Di ba nisamot nuon og ka-klaro nga kanang bible nga wala mag-include anang mga libroha, gikan sa mga HUDIYO ug Protestante? Ang mga hudiyo mao na sila ang ni-protesta sa teaching ni Jesus ug nagpalansang kaniya. Ang mga protestante mao na sila ang ni-protesta sa simbahang katoliko. See the pattern?

    Kaming mga katoliko, syempre kadtong bible sa early christians maoy among sundon, dili ng bible sa mga hudiyo/protestante. Wala lang tay but-anay. Wala bitaw pud mi magbuot nga ang bible sa mga hudiyo maoy imong sundon.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-11-2011 at 03:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcuenco View Post
    By the way, I go to church regularly. A bible based church. I do not do self study as you earlier mentioned.
    You mean to say, a church that was created because of the private interpretation of the bible? Kinsa man sad ang founder aning imong church, bro? Nus-a man pud ni natukod? Curious lang ko.

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    Bro, you are actually spamming this thread. The title is 'The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions'. You do that again and I'm going to report you to the moderators. Learn to respect. Ipakita ang tinuod nga pagka-kristyano.

    Again, this thread is for people who have genuine questions about the catholic church. This is not a place para mamomba mo sa mga katoliko nor a place to advertise your belief. The forum is free and creating a new thread is free. So go and create your own thread. Ayaw mo diri pag-troll.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-11-2011 at 03:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NNNN View Post
    Read the Apocrypha and you will see that there is nothing wrong with that. I have read them too and saw no divine discrepancy.

    It seems that it is more of big deal to you than living a happy and free life.
    Ambot bitaw ngano nga basta gikan na gani sa catholic church, big deal gyud na para nila. Wala man unta mi mamugos nga motuo sila sa among gituohan. Kini nga thread questions and answers ra man ni. Kun dili mo gusto makadungog sa tubag sa mga katoliko, then don't read this thread and don't ask question also. Ana ra ka simple.

    Naa pa toy usa ka poster diri nga nikalit lang og butt-in diri dayong ingon nga luoy lang kuno ang mga katoliko kay giilad sa catholic church. Question and answer ni nga thread, mga higala. Dili ni thread aron mangataki mo sa gituohan namong mga katoliko.

    Ambot nganong magkatol man gyud ang lubot aning mga tawhana kun dili sila makapamomba o makapangdaut sa mga katoliko.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-11-2011 at 03:48 AM.

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    any wez.. sa kad2 mga mo question about sa R.C, question lang mo then analyze, understand and RESPECT the answer dili mo question ka unya naa na diay ka imo answer nga conviction na diay nimo. u are just starting a debate and this thread is not the proper forum for a debate. dayon sa bible nga gilalisan... ani nlang....research about the history of the bible, who wrote it? when was it written? when was lt published? from different historians ana ba. mas maayo i google hehehe!!!. to us catholics.. let us answer the questions to those who doubt our faith but let us do it in a humble manner matod pa ni St. Peter. naa pa diay. the catholic church both honor St.Peter and St.Paul (dungan ila feast day)as apostles peter was the first pope and paul one of the most important theologian in the history of the church.

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    It is sad how my concern of "luoy" to those that do not follow what the bible says has been accused as pagpa momba or atake. Again, I appeal, read the bible from cover to cover. Genesis to Revelation and find the truth out for yourselves. If you want to include the 14 apocrypha books which is not included in the old or new testament so be it. I hope you can just appreciate that consistencies in the Word of God.

    As I said, I admire the devotion and dedication of the Roman Cathlics, there are just practices that do not conform to the bible and to which I do not agree. I am not a protestant. I just believe that all christian churches should not just practice tradition but follow biblical principles. I will not elaborate anymore. Dili na ko makig lalis.

    @hush232002 i agree with what you pointed out on what Peter said about practicing faith in a humble manner. When I read Paul's letter to the Romans this morning, (Romans 14:1), I read "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things."

    So, I rest my case but I continue to urge every Christian, catholic or not, to read the bible. Everything in the bible and discover its treasures. May God bless us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcuenco View Post
    It is sad how my concern of "luoy" to those that do not follow what the bible says has been accused as pagpa momba or atake. Again, I appeal, read the bible from cover to cover. Genesis to Revelation and find the truth out for yourselves. If you want to include the 14 apocrypha books which is not included in the old or new testament so be it. I hope you can just appreciate that consistencies in the Word of God.

    As I said, I admire the devotion and dedication of the Roman Cathlics, there are just practices that do not conform to the bible and to which I do not agree. I am not a protestant. I just believe that all christian churches should not just practice tradition but follow biblical principles. I will not elaborate anymore. Dili na ko makig lalis.

    @hush232002 i agree with what you pointed out on what Peter said about practicing faith in a humble manner. When I read Paul's letter to the Romans this morning, (Romans 14:1), I read "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things."

    So, I rest my case but I continue to urge every Christian, catholic or not, to read the bible. Everything in the bible and discover its treasures. May God bless us all.

    @dcuenco - "I hope you can just appreciate that consistencies in the Word of God. "

    I wish the BIBLE is consistent.Here are one of the many contradictions

    1.On what did Jesus ride into Jerusalem?


    On an ass and a colt.

    Matthew 21:5-7
    Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass,
    and a colt the foal of an ass. And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them And brought the ass,
    and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon.



    On a colt.

    Mark 11:7
    And they brought the colt to Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him.

    Luke 19:35
    And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.




    On a young ass.

    John 12:14
    And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon.






    2.Which was created first, Humans or Animals?



    Genesis 1:25-27
    (Humans were created after the other animals.)

    And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind,
    and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.




    Genesis 2:18-19
    (Humans were created before the other animals.)

    And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone;
    I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field,
    and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:
    and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.






    3.Which was created first, Man or Woman?

    Genesis 1:27
    (The first man and woman were created simultaneously.)

    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



    Genesis 2:18-22
    (The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man's rib.)

    And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
    And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air;
    and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam,
    and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib,
    which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

  8. #3348

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    You people should make a thread and title it. BIBLE QUESTIONS HERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustin View Post
    why do you need mary inorder for jesus to grow in your heart?

    i would say keep jesis in mind and he will grow in your heart!!

    mabawa nga klase sa faith....


    sorry if i offended you.....
    Pata-asay diay ni?

    NO not at all, it's okay anyway...

    Ikaw how's your faith? Why do you have to offend someone?
    May God forgive you


    I add...

    There it is...
    To question us here para lang diay ma baw-an kinsa TAAS og faith? Goodness...
    Dile na ang basihan sa tanan, og dili pud ni siya contest.
    Nag paila lang ka nga wala kay respeto...

    I hate it when I get angry, Attende Domine et miserere

    Lord help me to understand and to forgive them.
    Last edited by petite fleur; 09-11-2011 at 11:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcuenco View Post
    @hush232002 i agree with what you pointed out on what Peter said about practicing faith in a humble manner. When I read Paul's letter to the Romans this morning, (Romans 14:1), I read "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things."
    Aw, nakabalo man diay ka ana, unya nganong nikalit man lang kag enter diri and with your "PERFECT" knowledge of the truth and 100% arrogance, este confidence diay, declared that NANGILAD ang simbahang katoliko nga unta kining thread question and answer man lang unta ni sa mga teachings sa catholic church?

    Naa pa gyud, o:

    Quote Originally Posted by dcuenco View Post
    It is sad how my concern of "luoy" to those that do not follow what the bible says has been accused as pagpa momba or atake.
    Imong giakusahan ang mga katoliko nga wala sila mosunod sa nakasulat sa bible. Di ba klaro nga nangataki/namomba ka ana?
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-11-2011 at 12:33 PM.

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