MERGED: CPP-NPA-NDF Discussions (Issues, Updates, etc.)

[cebugdev]

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The military's latest gimmick.

DISCO in the barrios.

The military is sponsoring disco in barangays, complete with live band and scantily dressed women.

They are bringing immorality and decadence to the barangay folks.

nindut ni kay atleast naay gbuhat para malipay ang mga bario. ang rebelde? kay kng dli mangolekta ug tax ug uban pa sa mga villagers patyon pa jd ang mga soldiers na nagdala ug relief goods.. sa man ni oi?

[FK]

supporting the communist ideology doesn't make you an NPA.

so if the government have an all-out war with NPA... it should only be the NPA. If they suspect that this leftist groups are members of NPA... bring them in court.

Para nako ang all out war against corruption and poverty lang unta noh? Where does insurgency starts di bah sa kamaot sa atong pang gobyerno?

I agree.... this is how Magsaysay destroyed the HUK...

[bcasabee]

Aw mao nay ideal nga fight.........pero kung feel sa NPA nga naa silay katungod mo gunit ug armas ug mo controlar ug territoryo.........alangan man sad ug magtanga ang gobyerno.....dapat mo gunit pud ug armas ang gobyerno ug mas angayan nga mas naay control ang gobyerno sa territoryo sa Pilipinas.........Hinumdaman nato nga the government is not just fighting poverty.....its is also fighting idealism...........So use economic means to fight against poverty.....and at the same time.......use arms to fight the communist..............Unfair kaayo sa gobyerno........ang mga communist magsige ug pressure sa gobyerno nga mo alleviate sa condition sa mga pobre, unya sila igo ra silang mangolekta ug revolutionary taxes......dawat limps............sila kuno be, silay alleviate sa condition sa mga pobre, makaya ba nila....dili man gani sila kahatag ug armas sa ilang NPA, tuga tuga sila ug mandar.....ingna lang gyud nga ganahan ang mga communista ma pobre ang tanang tawo sa Pilipinas kay para maagni mga tawo mo join sa NPA....no choice......so in short.......The more daghan pobre ang Pilipinas.....the happier the communist gets.......gets?

Ug usa pa........if you are a supporter of the communist idealogy, then you must be a communist (who happens to eat and live in a capitalist way)........then you must be a supporter of the Communist Party of the Philippines........and in turn you must be supporting the NPAs......so pili nalang mo kung asa mo.......walay balimbingay.................

[FK]

Ug usa pa........if you are a supporter of the communist idealogy, then you must be a communist (who happens to eat and live in a capitalist way)........then you must be a supporter of the Communist Party of the Philippines........and in turn you must be supporting the NPAs......so pili nalang mo kung asa mo.......walay balimbingay.................

ambot lng ha... kay bisan tuod og uban taw incline sa ideology nga communist, some are not supporting the NPAs, basin lahi ilang pamaagi to achieve their goals.

like this militant groups... we can say that their ideologies are similar with the NPAs, but they are doing their battles in legal ways, in the house of representatives. And other parts of the world, i think mostly Latin countries, some of their leaders are of left inclination.

[bcasabee]

Kung hard evidence, i.e. pictures sa actual handling of money or check or whatever, walay jud ta ana........pero siyaro naman sab dili ta kabalo mo bana bana ug mo analyze......
....Ang situation nag ingon nga ang globe ray gitirahan.....
....Dili ra globe ang telecom player.......
....NPAs are known tong collectors.......
....So kung normal ka ug pangisip, unsa kahay imong ma conclude ani given sa tulo ka factors? Assuming mao ra nay factors ha......

[bcasabee]

During a war......every military group can become a terrorist.........the Israelites bombing civilian cities is already an act of terrorism in the eyes of the civilian and in my own opinion......but has the Israelites had any choice when the Hesbolah's are using the civilian's as shields? Now going back to the military vs. the NPAs, what can the military do to minimize civlian casualties when the NPA's are using civilian villages as their shields? So since both parties are already assumed terrorists. Probably the question is more on morality already. Now, which is more moral, 1. The military protecting the sovereignity of the country by accidentally sacrificing some civilians who were caught in the cross-fire? 2. Using villages as human shields by the NPA's? As for me.....I don't know the answer......even the NPA's are known to sacrifice their own for their cause and some civilians in their own tactical operations...........

Reaction on the last line ni Bobit Avila...And also the Military Agents and Police agents, officers included sd diay?

[hala tindak jud]

Ug usa pa........if you are a supporter of the communist idealogy, then you must be a communist (who happens to eat and live in a capitalist way)........then you must be a supporter of the Communist Party of the Philippines........and in turn you must be supporting the NPAs......so pili nalang mo kung asa mo.......walay balimbingay................. bcasabee

wait lang ha! mo comment lang ko, a supporter of a communist ideology is a communist, hmmm debatable baya ni bai pero if that was your case ok ra jud na. There are so many ways to become a supporter of a CPP, CPP is an Independent Organ, NPA too, though naa ni cla alliance sa usag usa. Kay akong pagsabot sa CPP this is the Gov't of the People under sa partido. wherein NPA is the ARMY. And that is also includes NDF which has an alliance of different organizations nga mi suporta sa CPP or NPA. But i know how troubled are you regarding this letters C,P,P,N,P,A,N,D,F well good luck.

I do agree on FKs argument, in support to that, we are a free nation, walay kalabutan ang gobyerno nato kung unsa ang ideolohiya akong gakson as long as wala ko nilapas sa human rights, but sad to say these so called people who chose not to go with the pop culture, unarmed and even tagged as an enemy of the state are the victims of GMAs all out war.

The government is losing this war against the NPA, why? People and even AFP/PNP are divided. AFP/PNP are infiltrated by NPAs they are hiding under the AFPs ranks wala lang ta kabalo kung kinsa, mao na nga bisan unsa pa himoon sa GRP para masanta ang NPA hangtud ang problema sa kalisud sa atong nasud dili mawala maayo pa maglana na ta og putot. I Solve sa ang problema sa kawad-on.
Does it make sense? If they bring an all out war to the NPA then aim it on the right target. NPA has only 8,000 armed red fighters and having 124 guerilla zones while Phils has 300,000 AFP/PNP combined elements scattered like tai sa kanding, how come they cannot defeat the 8000 NPAs bisan labtikanay sa dunggan pildi na ang NPA di bah. Pero there is the real score, it is the mass bases and support of the people.

[bcasabee]

@sikad
If you are a communist supporter....then you must be a communist......Naa ba diay tawo nga capitalist nga ning support ug communist? Sakto nuon tong giingon ni FK nga if you are a communist supporter, its not necessary nga you are an NPA supporter organizationally wise..........But tell me honestly....you would be glad to see the NPA's losing against the government or not?

[iloveyou4ever]

Para nako ang all out war against corruption and poverty lang unta noh? Where does insurgency starts di bah sa kamaot sa atong pang gobyerno?

Insurgery will not end even if mag progress ta. So if dili ni nato solbaron now, when man? We should kill the fire while dili pa kalat ang sunog otherwise, the entire country will be in danger. Kill all NPA's! In BOGO, they almost killed the security guards of Globelines satelite here kay wala magbayad ang Globe sa rebolusyonary tax. Maayo nalang nga gi agaw ra ang mga armas sa gwadya nya wala sila patya. Tsk tsk tsk But sad to say, hapit masunog tibuok nga satelite sa globe.

Ug usa pa........if you are a supporter of the communist idealogy, then you must be a communist (who happens to eat and live in a capitalist way)........then you must be a supporter of the Communist Party of the Philippines........and in turn you must be supporting the NPAs......so pili nalang mo kung asa mo.......walay balimbingay................. bcasabee

wait lang ha! mo comment lang ko, a supporter of a communist ideology is a communist, hmmm debatable baya ni bai pero if that was your case ok ra jud na. There are so many ways to become a supporter of a CPP, CPP is an Independent Organ, NPA too, though naa ni cla alliance sa usag usa. Kay akong pagsabot sa CPP this is the Gov't of the People under sa partido. wherein NPA is the ARMY. And that is also includes NDF which has an alliance of different organizations nga mi suporta sa CPP or NPA. But i know how troubled are you regarding this letters C,P,P,N,P,A,N,D,F well good luck.

I do agree on FKs argument, in support to that, we are a free nation, walay kalabutan ang gobyerno nato kung unsa ang ideolohiya akong gakson as long as wala ko nilapas sa human rights, but sad to say these so called people who chose not to go with the pop culture, unarmed and even tagged as an enemy of the state are the victims of GMAs all out war.

The government is losing this war against the NPA, why? People and even AFP/PNP are divided. AFP/PNP are infiltrated by NPAs they are hiding under the AFPs ranks wala lang ta kabalo kung kinsa, mao na nga bisan unsa pa himoon sa GRP para masanta ang NPA hangtud ang problema sa kalisud sa atong nasud dili mawala maayo pa maglana na ta og putot. I Solve sa ang problema sa kawad-on.
Does it make sense? If they bring an all out war to the NPA then aim it on the right target. NPA has only 8,000 armed red fighters and having 124 guerilla zones while Phils has 300,000 AFP/PNP combined elements scattered like tai sa kanding, how come they cannot defeat the 8000 NPAs bisan labtikanay sa dunggan pildi na ang NPA di bah. Pero there is the real score, it is the mass bases and support of the people.

You are a common filipino kay hilig ka kaayo ug debate nya kulang sa aksyon like sa mga NPA's ug OPPOSITION!

[FK]

But tell me honestly....you would be glad to see the NPA's losing against the government or not?

I guess you will not be happy... but again the aim of this war is the NPA... the armed group, not the ideology... but maybe the government is just masking their real motives as an all-out-war against the NPA but in reality it's an all-out-war against leftist IDEOLOGY?