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[SamuraiArcher]

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Roman catholics ra ang religion dili mamugus pila imu i-donate sa Church....ang uban..na-a gyud a certain percentage...basin mao na ang mga Church of satan...lain lain lang ug name....unya gigamit ang mga gamit sa tinuod nga Ginoo, sma sa Bible ug uban pa...

[rcruman]

Then you've mentioned you're church.
Its true Roman Catholics don't force you to give because I'm a catholic before.
But Matthew 10:8 is talking about the doctrine that to be given freely.
So is Baptism and Marriage (special and regular) are not the doctrine of Christ in the Gospel?
Do we need to pay when for our funerals, for our relatives that allegedly in Purgatory (not in the bible) pamisahan nya (naay special og regular)?

I'm just asking my friend, then If you answer me the payment is needed for the Church then lets read 2 Corinthians 9:7 (God loves a cheerful giver.) Because of the number of your members is enough already to sustain if just following to give freely.

Peace!

[SamuraiArcher]

ya im sure wala mi bugsa sa among church....its our tradition and faith nga magpabunyag me..mangayo me ug blessings from the church....mabuhi pa kaha ka if u based ol ur doing wat the Bible says? if imu gituman tanan nga nakasulat sa bibliya? I doubt..kay ang inyong gipang quote kato ra kaya ninyo buhaton..ang d nny kaya for sure dili ninyo i share sa inyong mga sakop..kay kamu mismu dili katuman....

[joy_happy]

joy_happy wrote:
Did you know that Paul's letters are sent to specifc person with specific instruictions therefore can't be used as basis for doctrines.

No, not specific person but Apostle Paul wrote it to the churches in other places like Corinth, to the Philippians, Ephisians, Galatians, Colosians, and Thessalonians. Then those letters will be sent to another places after certain churches read it.

That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 1 John 1:3-4.

have you studied the Pauline letters? The background, history, and the message of the letters itself. The church is the People dili lugar! Don't tell me if padala ko ug suwat ni rcruman then basahon pud sa uban? Tinonto na! Compare the letters to the Corinthians ug sa Ephisians, makakita ka kung unsa kakalaro ang tono sa iya mga words.

Kay if wala, dili ka makaconclude.

[rcruman]

joy_happy wrote:
have you studied the Pauline letters? The background, history, and the message of the letters itself. The church is the People dili lugar! Don't tell me if padala ko ug suwat ni rcruman then basahon pud sa uban? Tinonto na! Compare the letters to the Corinthians ug sa Ephisians, makakita ka kung unsa kakalaro ang tono sa iya mga words.
Kay if wala, dili ka makaconclude.

Through the Help of God yes.
Its been written in the bible that the Church is the people. 1 Corinthians 12:28. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

The letters of Apostles is for the entire Church and Christians. Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

And even Apostle Peter have acknowledge the writtings of Paul.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:15-16.

Did I conclude or did i just read the verse?
It seems you're the one who concluded.

Peace!

[rcruman]

SamuraiArcher wrote:
ya im sure wala mi bugsa sa among church....its our tradition and faith nga magpabunyag me..mangayo me ug blessings from the church....mabuhi pa kaha ka if u based ol ur doing wat the Bible says? if imu gituman tanan nga nakasulat sa bibliya? I doubt..kay ang inyong gipang quote kato ra kaya ninyo buhaton..ang d nny kaya for sure dili ninyo i share sa inyong mga sakop..kay kamu mismu dili katuman....

Baptism was the entrance to the heaven, its not tradition. Can you be baptized if you don't pay not unless there are sponsors, Can you be married if you don't pay. Will your death be holy if you don't pay it. Can you offer a mass to your past away love ones which is in Purgatory without payment? And about your statement nga mao ra kaya ninyou buhaton, then its clear that you can't do what I've qouted but rather do which is not instructed. As much as we could we must follow Him, God knows our heart if you did it intentionally or willfully.

Peace!

[SamuraiArcher]

^^of course mabunyagan ang tawo ug maminyo ang tawo without bayad..kadagahan schedules for free....n makapamisa ko sa mga kalag sa akong loved ones without payment...ang imong gipang-quote is just gamay ra nga portion wat the Bible says...KAW? maka siguro ka na tanan nakasulat sa Bibliya imu gihimo? Well only GOD knows.....some pipol read the Bible nga putol putol ..mao na ang pag understand dili mao..y not try to read the Bible first..or pag study for 8 years and be a masters before you quote sa mga verses sa Bible...lisod biya if dili nato masabtan ang Biblia...

[rcruman]

^^of course mabunyagan ang tawo ug maminyo ang tawo without bayad..kadagahan schedules for free....n makapamisa ko sa mga kalag sa akong loved ones without payment...ang imong gipang-quote is just gamay ra nga portion wat the Bible says...KAW? maka siguro ka na tanan nakasulat sa Bibliya imu gihimo? Well only GOD knows.....some pipol read the Bible nga putol putol ..mao na ang pag understand dili mao..y not try to read the Bible first..or pag study for 8 years and be a masters before you quote sa mga verses sa Bible...lisod biya if dili nato masabtan ang Biblia...

There are free as i've said if there are sponsors or there are mass wedding or baptism but seldom.
Buy the help and grace of God I'm trying to do it, it doesn't need 8 years to study it but it shall be given unto you.
That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Mark 4:11.

And for your information, I'm a sakristan before, I've studied in a Catholic School (elementary to High School), and I almost entered as seminirista. My whole family as of the moment is a Roman Catholic.

It can be read in the bible my friend that:
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. John 7:17-18.

I didn't judge anything about you but I just read and posted the verses in the Bible.
If it hurts, the bible says it.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:34-38.

Peace!

[SamuraiArcher]

^^unsay labot sa imong pagkasakristan in understanding sa Bible..u have to study the Bible para masabtan nato ug tarong...kay kasagaran sayop ang pagsabot....giving verses nga putol -putol. if imu na sumpayon tanang mga verses sa Bible lahi na ang pag unsderstand ana..ayaw lagi putla ang meaning sa Bible...anyway Church of satan is everywhere...

[SamuraiArcher]

^^you should understand the Bible, not just read it.....mao diay....anyway about the 3 kings..That is part of catholics "HOLY TRADITION"...i guess wala na dapat magkiglalis ani kay tradition na ni sa mga Katoliko....