Communicating With Spirits

[rcruman]

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ka klaro anang nag samok samok ka. Tinood nga forum ni pero di boot pasabot nga puede ka maka buhat sa tanan nimong gusto. wa man cguro kay batasan.

aw tell it to moderator nga wala koy batasan.

tan-awa kuno ng iolang gi post diha kung nag invite ba na sila ug debate,this is their peace time nya musulod ka nya mangutana kunohay pero ang tuyo jud diay ma kig lalis ra.

beh hunong kuno kadiyot og tan-aw samin nya ipangutana "kinsa kaha ang nakig lalis"?
Murag sumbalik man sa imoha ang imo pulong nga nakiglalis ko.
Ang tawo nga dili gusto pangutan-on kay walay ikatubag, kung naay ikatubag aw wala may problema.

pst...wa ka kasbot ug unsa ng afterlife balik ug grade3 oi.

ah klaro sa ako pangutana, unsay meaning sa afterlife or details ani niya, imo gikuha kay sa word itself raman. Pero ang anko pangutana puede ba diay makacommunicate ang naa sa afterlife sa living world? ni-exist naba ni ang afterlife? kay ang Eternal life wala pa og ihatag pa kini sa Ginoo inig human sa judgment. Og ang Eternal life kay makalimtan na niya ang nahitabo sa iyaha sa kalibutan.

Karon kinsa man ang mubalik og grade 3? imo man gud sa word ra gikuha pero ang meaning sa afterlife kay lahi kaayo og dili biblical compare to Eternal Life that was promised by God to those who will do good works.

Peace!

[IdontCare]

aw tell it to moderator nga wala koy batasan.
beh hunong kuno kadiyot og tan-aw samin nya ipangutana "kinsa kaha ang nakig lalis"?
Murag sumbalik man sa imoha ang imo pulong nga nakiglalis ko.
Ang tawo nga dili gusto pangutan-on kay walay ikatubag, kung naay ikatubag aw wala may problema.
ah klaro sa ako pangutana, unsay meaning sa afterlife or details ani niya, imo gikuha kay sa word itself raman. Pero ang anko pangutana puede ba diay makacommunicate ang naa sa afterlife sa living world? ni-exist naba ni ang afterlife? kay ang Eternal life wala pa og ihatag pa kini sa Ginoo inig human sa judgment. Og ang Eternal life kay makalimtan na niya ang nahitabo sa iyaha sa kalibutan.

Karon kinsa man ang mubalik og grade 3? imo man gud sa word ra gikuha pero ang meaning sa afterlife kay lahi kaayo og dili biblical compare to Eternal Life that was promised by God to those who will do good works.

Peace!

Dugay na kabal;o ang moderator ana nga wala kay batasan.

sorry dong ha kay walay samin diri. pero ka klaro ana nga nakiglalis ko nimo. O OI nakig LALIS ko nmo.

pero ikaw bisan klaro nga makiglalis ka mo deny pa jud. tsk tsk !


basa ug dctionary or balik grade3 nya pangutan-a imon teracher kung unsa ng afterlife.

[silverhawk]

Hello Rcruman,

Coming out to the public is not to evangelize, change or convert your / their religion.

I know it is always a question comparing religion from paranormal phenomena. I see no conflict between the two. All religions, whether Islam, Hinduism or Christianity have some connections with paranormal phenomenon (supernatural or divine being).

I know this is a big deal for discussion. I think the problem especially by Christians (including your group) is the assumption that everything that is paranormal or supernatural must come from the dark side. That is not true. You cannot judge a person with psychic abilities as evil.

In the bible, even Jesus Christ performed so many paranormal wonders, like when he read people’s minds, walked on the water, changed water into wine, revived the dead and healed the sick. Calling them miracles does not change their paranormal nature. Yes, I believe in miracles. I believe in angels and even demons. Comparing religion from paranormal phenomena is similar if you ask how science fit in with the mystical and paranormal, or compare science from religion.

When I was a kid, I asked our Religion teacher to explain The Book of Genesis from Science that everything in the universe comes from an atom. Simply put, true science cannot be in conflict with religion and are considered outside the scope of paranormal phenomena.

My study and research on Paranormal Phenomena leads me to understand and accept that the living are affected by the spirits, and spirits are also affected by the living.

For the record, we already handled cases on Paranormal Investigation with some of our clients here in Cebu City. When a person dies because of accident, sickness his / her consciousness is still here on earth. If he / she has unfinished business, his / her spirit can be seen by sensitive individuals we call Psychics or people with “Third Eye”.

The dead will be affected by the affairs and thoughts of their loved ones they left behind. We have a case like this in one of our friends outside the circle. That is why it is wrong to mourn too much the passing of a person. It keeps the dead from moving towards the Light or to the higher realms of the spirit world. Yes, prayers help the spirits of the dead.

The reason also why others are scared about this subject is because of how TV programs and movies depict the mystical and paranormal. Instead to educate the public, they scare them showing horror movies, capped by an excruciating climactic scene that brings us back to Jason and Freedy.

I’m sure you’ve seen the movies the “Sixth Sense” and “Ghosts” starring Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze - these are some movies that are well researched about paranormal.

The problem in our country (Philippines) is people associated psychic with a person able to tell the future. This is wrong. There are many forms or types of psychic abilities such as telepathy (you can save text mesg from this LOL), telekinesis and clairvoyance. There are also people who can do remote viewing, empath but cannot tell the future. They are all psychics. I know and I’m aware that some people are better at it than others. They should not consider us above the rest or like God because we are just trying to maximize the potential of “Becoming Human.”

Everybody is a psychic because the word psychic comes from the Greek word “psyche” meaning mind or soul. I understand that some people are afraid of the unknown and there was even a mom who freaked out in front of us. It is hard to talk to a person who is close-minded (example like you). My grandma who is a healer and knows graphology (reading penmanship) advised me never to change my religion. Just acknowledge my gift.

We all have psychic ability. No on can say he does not have any. Some participants during our workshop develop or surprised during their first hand experience.

With these human abilities, it is wrong to pursue power but use this as a stepping-stone toward a higher purpose, self-development and to share with others or even for some entertainment (kidding).

The conflict or the long debate by others about Religion, Science and Paranormal Phenomena is a question of definition.

So there you go. Sharing my thoughts about this matter is for intellectual discussion only and should not be considered as a debate.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" Hamlet - Shakespeare

"History has shown that what might at one time be considered occult may eventually become science." – Gwydion

" Whether it be nature or nurture, whatever shows up in our chart, awareness is the first step to freedom. " - Adondlei

"Meduimship shouldn't be about entertainment. It's about having the opportunity to give people some peace of mind." - Gordon Smith, Britain's famous psychic


Blessings,

Silver Hawk
www.cebuparanormalsociety.com/forum

[circles122345]

Hello Rcruman,

Ashiest ka? hehehe.. sa motoo okay ra wman sab mawala..

[Sinyalan]

@ silverhawk

Good points brother. Keep the good work happen.

[rcruman]

Hello Rcruman,
Ashiest ka? hehehe.. sa motoo okay ra wman sab mawala..

Wa mawala sa ato pagkatawo kung wala kay kahadlok sa Ginoo or wala nituman sa Ginoo.
Kay gibawal man sa Ginoo ang makigistorya sa espiritu.
here read it:

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Deuteronomy 18:11-12.

so kung ato gyud tumanon ato kaugalingon nga wala man mawala aw it shows nga wala ta nituman sa Ginoo.

Pero kung ang mo-communicate sa Spirits kay dili mutuo sa GInoo aw walay question, padayon.

Ask lang ko nimo og kang silverhawk:
Mutoo mo sa Ginoo?

Peace!

[rcruman]

Hello Rcruman,
In the bible, even Jesus Christ performed so many paranormal wonders, like when he read people’s minds, walked on the water, changed water into wine, revived the dead and healed the sick. Calling them miracles does not change their paranormal nature. Yes, I believe in miracles. I believe in angels and even demons. Comparing religion from paranormal phenomena is similar if you ask how science fit in with the mystical and paranormal, or compare science from religion.

By the way what is PARANORMAL to you?
Would you consider Christ as normal?
do you believed in God?

Hello Rcruman,
For the record, we already handled cases on Paranormal Investigation with some of our clients here in Cebu City. When a person dies because of accident, sickness his / her consciousness is still here on earth. If he / she has unfinished business, his / her spirit can be seen by sensitive individuals we call Psychics or people with “Third Eye”.

The dead will be affected by the affairs and thoughts of their loved ones they left behind. We have a case like this in one of our friends outside the circle. That is why it is wrong to mourn too much the passing of a person. It keeps the dead from moving towards the Light or to the higher realms of the spirit world. Yes, prayers help the spirits of the dead.

all cases?

The dead will be affected by the affairs and thoughts of their loved ones they left behind. We have a case like this in one of our friends outside the circle. That is why it is wrong to mourn too much the passing of a person. It keeps the dead from moving towards the Light or to the higher realms of the spirit world. Yes, prayers help the spirits of the dead.

Do you believed in God?
Did you know that Satan is always there to deceive us and to incline to his works?

I’m sure you’ve seen the movies the “Sixth Sense” and “Ghosts” starring Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze - these are some movies that are well researched about paranormal.

yes, I've seen those movie.
and there are holes on that research about spirit of the dead.
If people really can communicate with the spirits, the real spirits of the dead, there will be no more "perfect crime"
It will be useful to solve cases of murder, conspiracy, betrayal and corruption.
Tell me bro honestly, can you give me percentage of solve cases as you've claimed.

Everybody is a psychic because the word psychic comes from the Greek word “psyche” meaning mind or soul. I understand that some people are afraid of the unknown and there was even a mom who freaked out in front of us. It is hard to talk to a person who is close-minded (example like you). My grandma who is a healer and knows graphology (reading penmanship) advised me never to change my religion. Just acknowledge my gift.

We all have psychic ability. No on can say he does not have any. Some participants during our workshop develop or surprised during their first hand experience.

Have you heard a saying that " a man is in the center of the circle without circumference"?
We humans don't know our limitation, and that limitation should be moderated.
Because humans can think way ahead.
Then let me ask you also, have you seen the movie "Beautiful Mind" by russell C.?

With these human abilities, it is wrong to pursue power but use this as a stepping-stone toward a higher purpose, self-development and to share with others or even for some entertainment (kidding).

The conflict or the long debate by others about Religion, Science and Paranormal Phenomena is a question of definition.

So there you go. Sharing my thoughts about this matter is for intellectual discussion only and should not be considered as a debate.

I'm not after debating with you, I'm just after with discussion.
No one should be angry, questions will come and it should be explained if not answered.


Bro let me ask you, have you ever try to ask the spirits of a certain love ones of you client without asking many questions from the client? I mean just ask the name and his/her concern then ask the spirits for the answer to solve some case or issue.
Because in my observation some paranormal experts will ask all the background of the client and tell you frankly if you just admit not all are solved. Its like making a bet in LOTTO.


To you silverhawk, hope you're not the same as other forumers here that if run out of statement will consider me as different or will attack me personally. Let us exchange statement , give what you have and I will do the same also.

Peace!

[IdontCare]

By the way what is PARANORMAL to you?
Would you consider Christ as normal?
do you believed in God?
all cases?
Do you believed in God?
Did you know that Satan is always there to deceive us and to incline to his works?
yes, I've seen those movie.
and there are holes on that research about spirit of the dead.
If people really can communicate with the spirits, the real spirits of the dead, there will be no more "perfect crime"
It will be useful to solve cases of murder, conspiracy, betrayal and corruption.
Tell me bro honestly, can you give me percentage of solve cases as you've claimed.
Have you heard a saying that " a man is in the center of the circle without circumference"?
We humans don't know our limitation, and that limitation should be moderated.
Because humans can think way ahead.
Then let me ask you also, have you seen the movie "Beautiful Mind" by russell C.?
I'm not after debating with you, I'm just after with discussion.
No one should be angry, questions will come and it should be explained if not answered.


Bro let me ask you, have you ever try to ask the spirits of a certain love ones of you client without asking many questions from the client? I mean just ask the name and his/her concern then ask the spirits for the answer to solve some case or issue.
Because in my observation some paranormal experts will ask all the background of the client and tell you frankly if you just admit not all are solved. Its like making a bet in LOTTO.


To you silverhawk, hope you're not the same as other forumers here that if run out of statement will consider me as different or will attack me personally. Let us exchange statement , give what you have and I will do the same also.

Peace!

I am so confuse.

rcruman do you believe that there are spirits?

murag motoo man cguro ka? so wa ko kasabot sa imong argument sa imong post sa taas. Are you discrediting the point nga naay spirit or imong gi advocate ang "bawal makg-storya sa spirits?"

[akosabni]

@rcruman

2 questions bro

do u have a spirit?
if yes, do u communicate w/ your spirit?

[rcruman]

@rcruman
2 questions bro
do u have a spirit?
if yes, do u communicate w/ your spirit?

Yes I have because I'm alive.
My spirits from Lord communicate with me and help me to remind what to do and will give me a feeling of guilt when I committed wrong.

I can't communicate with my spirit, its the my spirit that communicate with my flesh.

Then how about you?

Peace!