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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs

    Do you have any experience about the Holy Spirit in your life? kung wala pa bro, mao nay secret sa mga Christians nga dili nimo masabtan sad.
    so, naa diay experience sa Holy Spirit? unya gisugo ka nga everything nga ingon ani, is evil even without proving or direct experience basta mao na, evil na.

    Please answer bro my questions nga gi ask nako directly nimo:

    forbidden knowledge? haven't you asked bro, nganong gi forbid na ninyo ang knowledge? kinsay nag-ingon ninyo nga forbidden? nakabalo ba sila sa knowledge ky nakaingon sila nga forbidden? unsaon ninyo pagkabalo nga forbidden ang certain knowledge kung wala mo kabalo? kinsa ang nagsulti sa verse Corinthians, si Jesus or si Paul?
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 12-20-2012 at 02:55 AM.

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    =jovipeorliohacokijo;14065274]@ Bro Breakeven, wala lagi ni nimo gi answeran.

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    forbidden knowledge? haven't you asked bro, nganong gi forbid na ninyo ang knowledge? kinsay nag-ingon ninyo nga forbidden? nakabalo ba sila sa knowledge ky nakaingon sila nga forbidden? unsaon ninyo pagkabalo nga forbidden ang certain knowledge kung wala mo kabalo? kinsa ang nagsulti sa verse Corinthians, si Jesus or si Paul?
    extracted bro..The Nine Forbidden Practices of the Occult « Sola Dei Gloria

    THE NINE FORBIDDEN PRACTICES

    Deuteronomy 18 contains the most powerful biblical passage outlining the occult. In verses ten and eleven we find the Nine Forbidden Practices of the occult:

    When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

    In my Take A Stand! Seminar “The End-Time Occult Invasion”, I use the following to illustrate how it is absolutely imperative that we avoid all forms of occultism and teach others the same.

    The word “abomination” (v.9, 12) is the Hebrew word “Tow`ebah”
    (Strong’s number 08441, pronounced “to-ay-baw”)

    It means: “a disgusting thing,” “an abomination,” “unclean” (as in idolatry), “wickedness”

    This is the strongest condemnatory language used by God in the entire Bible!


    Let that sink in. In the strongest terms used in the entire Bible, God condemns and forbids the occult as He warns the Israelites to avoid and abhor it. Pronouncing it as “towebah,” God, in His wisdom, lays out the Nine Forbidden Practices. They are:

    1- Human Sacrifice – We call that abortion today
    2- Divination – The Heart of the occult. Manipulation from demonic sources.
    3- Astrology – We either trust God or the Zodiac but not both!
    4- Enchanter – Someone satanically endowed to produce seductive spells.
    5- Witchcraft and Witches – Includes its modern, organized counterpart, Wicca.
    6- Charmer – One who manipulates objects or beings via demonic power.
    7- Consulter with Familiar Spirits – One who gleans knowledge from demonic contact.
    8- Wizards – Practitioners of magical arts.
    9- Necromancers – Those who claim to be in contact with the dead.

    Once we see and understand God’s standard on the occult, several more Scriptures immediately come to mind that give direction, warning and clarity concerning the various deceptions.

    Ephesians 5:10-11 instruct what we must do concerning evil in any form.

    Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

    II Corinthians 6:14-18 leaves no doubt that God wants His children to steer clear of any fascination or involvement with the occult.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-20-2012 at 03:03 AM.

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    so, naa diay experience sa Holy Spirit? unya gisugo ka nga everything nga ingon ani, is evil even without proving or direct experience basta mao na, evil na.

    Please answer bro my questions nga gi ask nako directly nimo:

    forbidden knowledge? haven't you asked bro, nganong gi forbid na ninyo ang knowledge? kinsay nag-ingon ninyo nga forbidden? nakabalo ba sila sa knowledge ky nakaingon sila nga forbidden? unsaon ninyo pagkabalo nga forbidden ang certain knowledge kung wala mo kabalo? kinsa ang nagsulti sa verse Corinthians, si Jesus or si Paul?
    kaning imoha bro murag mao lang ni ang lighter/attractive side sa evil. Though it teaches goodness, christ, love, etc...pero ang MAIN subject diha nga impersonal GOD and REINCARNATION mao ang opposite sa PERSONAL GOD of the Bible and SALVATION.

    Still be considered a DECEPTION!

  4. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    extracted bro..The Nine Forbidden Practices of the Occult « Sola Dei Gloria

    THE NINE FORBIDDEN PRACTICES

    Deuteronomy 18 contains the most powerful biblical passage outlining the occult. In verses ten and eleven we find the Nine Forbidden Practices of the occult:

    When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

    In my Take A Stand! Seminar “The End-Time Occult Invasion”, I use the following to illustrate how it is absolutely imperative that we avoid all forms of occultism and teach others the same.

    The word “abomination” (v.9, 12) is the Hebrew word “Tow`ebah”
    (Strong’s number 08441, pronounced “to-ay-baw”)

    It means: “a disgusting thing,” “an abomination,” “unclean” (as in idolatry), “wickedness”

    This is the strongest condemnatory language used by God in the entire Bible!

    Let that sink in. In the strongest terms used in the entire Bible, God condemns and forbids the occult as He warns the Israelites to avoid and abhor it. Pronouncing it as “towebah,” God, in His wisdom, lays out the Nine Forbidden Practices. They are:

    1- Human Sacrifice – We call that abortion today
    2- Divination – The Heart of the occult. Manipulation from demonic sources.
    3- Astrology – We either trust God or the Zodiac but not both!
    4- Enchanter – Someone satanically endowed to produce seductive spells.
    5- Witchcraft and Witches – Includes its modern, organized counterpart, Wicca.
    6- Charmer – One who manipulates objects or beings via demonic power.
    7- Consulter with Familiar Spirits – One who gleans knowledge from demonic contact.
    8- Wizards – Practitioners of magical arts.
    9- Necromancers – Those who claim to be in contact with the dead.

    Once we see and understand God’s standard on the occult, several more Scriptures immediately come to mind that give direction, warning and clarity concerning the various deceptions.

    Ephesians 5:10-11 instruct what we must do concerning evil in any form.

    Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

    II Corinthians 6:14-18 leaves no doubt that God wants His children to steer clear of any fascination or involvement with the occult.
    sorry bro, but it did not answer my questions:
    1. forbidden knowledge? - how did you know it is forbidden when you don't know about the knowledge
    2. haven't you asked bro, nganong gi forbid na ninyo ang knowledge?
    3. kinsay nag-ingon ninyo nga forbidden?
    4. nakabalo ba sila sa knowledge ky nakaingon sila nga forbidden?
    5. unsaon ninyo pagkabalo nga forbidden ang certain knowledge kung wala mo kabalo?
    6. kinsa ang nagsulti sa verse Corinthians, si Jesus or si Paul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    kaning imoha bro murag mao lang ni ang lighter/attractive side sa evil. Though it teaches goodness, christ, love, etc...pero ang MAIN subject diha nga impersonal GOD and REINCARNATION mao ang opposite sa PERSONAL GOD of the Bible and SALVATION.

    Still be considered a DECEPTION!
    gi unsa nimo pagkabalo nga lighter/attractive side of evil kung wala ka kabalo? naa ky complete knowledge why God is impersonal? naa ky complete knowledge about reincarnation?

  6. #26

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    II: Coptic Gospel of Thomas

    P) These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke
    and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.

    1) And He said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these
    sayings will not experience death."


    17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what
    no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never
    occurred to the human mind."

    1 The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
    Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that
    you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the
    end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning;
    he will know the end and will not experience death."

    19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he
    came into being. If you become My disciples and listen to My
    words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five
    trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and
    winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted
    with them will not experience death."

    20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the Kingdom of
    Heaven is like."
    He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed, the smallest of
    all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great
    plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

  7. #27

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    Jovi bisan pag mag mangugat kag sulti diha nga ng imoha ang orig adto lang gihapon ko sa bible
    kanang imong gipangyawyaw puro contradiction sa Teachings ni Jesus
    Matthew 24
    13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

  8. #28

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    Only the Vatican can say.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    Jovi bisan pag mag mangugat kag sulti diha nga ng imoha ang orig adto lang gihapon ko sa bible
    kanang imong gipangyawyaw puro contradiction sa Teachings ni Jesus
    Matthew 24
    13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
    gospel of the kingdom, unsa nga kingdom bro, Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Rome?

    ang bible kulangan pa sa kinatibuk-an nga teachings ni Jesus ug sa original Christianity (school). Bisag ipuno pa na ang Gnostic Gospels, daghan gihapon ug kulang. kabalo ka nganong dili i apil ang Gnostic Gospels? ky kung dili ka student sa original Christianity dili man ka makasabot. for example gikan sa Gospel of Thomas:

    22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to His disciples,"These infants being suckled are like those who enter the Kingdom." They said to Him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the Kingdom?" Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when youmake the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,and the above like the below, and when you make the male and thefemale one and the same, so that the male not be male nor thefemale female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, anda likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [theKingdom]."

    37) His disciples said, "When will You become revealed to us andwhen shall we see You?" Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and takeup your garments and place them under your feet like littlechildren and tread on them, then [will you see] the Son of theLiving One, and you will not be afraid"

  10. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Bro, naka study naka ug Gnosticism? Gi unsa nimo pagkabalo nga Devil ang Gnosticism kung wala ka ka study ana? Pareha ra na ug moingon ka nga makadaut sa lawas ang moinom ug juice but wala pa ka kasuway ug inom ug juice.
    Nakabalo ko Jovs nga gikan sa Devil ang Gnosticism because of the bible mismo that says these verses; 1 Tim 6; 3-43: If anyone teaches different things and does not consent to healthy words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ,...he is blinded with pride, understanding nothing, but is diseased with questionings and contentions of words, out of which come envy, strife, slanders, evil suspicions,..Why? because those are deep things of Satan Rev2:24..therefore...this is again what the bible says Jovs...2 John 1:10: If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don't invite that person into your home(Means inside your heart) or give any kind of encouragement. I hope this answers your question Pareng Jovs.

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