Beware of House and lot developers

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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As I said earlier, I will post the developer its only a matter of when. Don't worry I'm not affiliated with Aboitiz or Filinvest.
But its good to warn people about it don't you think? My friend is a victim of dubious dealings that won't go unnoticed.

As I keep on repeating myself also , you tied to make it sound like other than FILINVEST , all these companies are SCAMS . I dont even know why you posted this here in the buy and sell section unless again you are promoting FILINVEST .

If you are not ready for disclosing names then you should not have started the thread otherwise you are not justifying anything because you are generalizing .

[jnom]

As I keep on repeating myself also , you tied to make it sound like other than FILINVEST , all these companies are SCAMS . I dont even know why you posted this here in the buy and sell section unless again you are promoting FILINVEST .

If you are not ready for disclosing names then you should not have started the thread otherwise you are not justifying anything because you are generalizing .

Read my posts again. I said "buy from a BIG developer like Filinvest." "I also have a property at ABOITIZ"
When did I say "all these companies are SCAMS"? Don't put words in my mouth. Are you an agent or a broker or related to a developer? If you're one of the mods then you should not be biased and not be personal regardless.
This is just the same as Worst PC shops thread but this is more sensitive. We're talking millions here not a few measly pesos. Its good to warn people about these companies. Already a few companies are mentioned.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Read my posts again. I said "buy from a BIG developer like Filinvest." "I also have a property at ABOITIZ"
When did I say "all these companies are SCAMS"? Don't put words in my mouth. Are you an agent or a broker or related to a developer? If you're one of the mods then you should not be biased and not be personal regardless.
This is just the same as Worst PC shops thread but this is more sensitive. We're talking millions here not a few measly pesos. Its good to warn people about these companies. Already a few companies are mentioned.

Dong , atong tukion ni imo gi post ha .

- When is the time that you said all these companies other thn FILINVEST are scams ? Why dont you read your own statements . For your convenience , I highlighted ut for you down there .

- I am not related to any firms that concerns real estate . I am a MOD and you are right , that i should MONITOR postings such as yours that does not contain any justification in projecting integrity on sectors .

- These companies being mentioned are from the other forumers experience which is by the way , a thread already existed for that . Its not yours and was not your intent the moment you created the thread .

- Why dont you reconcile your THREAD TITLE and the OPENING STATEMENT you made bag-o ka mag ginahi ug ulo .

kani ang statement nimo s aubos i reread , ayaw ko tudlui akoy mo basa nuon . Mao bitaw gi badlong ka tungod anang post nimo unya ipabasa nimo nako usab ? Maysad ka . If your next reply would not suffice the intent of the thread , I will award you with an infraction for ILLEGAL TOPIC and this thread will be DELETED .

ust to warn you guys that a certain developer in cebu is pre-selling house and lots with a lot of problems. Be sure to get the proper documents(subdivided title, floorplans, specification,etc) required to get a bank loan before agreeing to sign a contract with the developer.
My friend made that mistake and paid a big sum of money in advance. The developer is now saying there's so many problems and its been delayed for a few months.

From my personal experience always buy from a big developer like filinvest not the small developers around the corner who will sell dreams for cheap but with big headache. Hehe.

[King LeBron]

hehehe.. TS, ayaw palabi ug pabadlong.. Kuyawa sad anang title nimo oi.. Namaligya ka pero nag-warning... Murag Noli Me Tangere... walang ka-connect2x..

Ang unod sa imong thread wala jud na-belong sa buy and sell section.. Kung nag-promote ka sa Filinvest, straight to the point dayon.. hehe

[jnom]

always buy from a big developer like filinvest

Feel free to edit the filinvest or aboitiz references in my post. The word "like" is an analogy not an absolute statement. big developer like filinvest, replace filinvest with aboitiz, replace aboitiz with ayala, replace ayala with dmci, replace dmci with camelia homes.

The benefit of having this thread is more than what you think I'm getting for merely mentioning filinvest or aboitiz. But you're already overstepping your duties by not allowing opinions of users at istorya.
If you don't understand the legalities and consequences at all then let me explain it to you.
To devulge the developer before events are yet to unfold is highly dangerous to the clients. Remember this is not yet put into court proceedings.
The following can happen
The developer could choose to delay the refund of the money. They could even subtract a portion of the money for no apparent reason just because its in the contract. These kinds of developers get your downpayment fast but they don't return it and want to keep it as much as possible even though the client already asked for a refund several times. Agents/brokers are the same so be sure to get a licensed and trustworthy agent. These people only care about their cut and their commision not the clients well being. And I see a lot of realstate agents at istorya who might have something to complain about in this thread. Let them complain I don't care for such agents/brokers who only care about getting their cut.
And also the developer could sabotage the construction of the house and lot if there was an agreement to push through with it.
With these developers I wouldn't be surprised if they substitute lower quality, cheap materials, etc. Or many other tricks developers/contractors do to their clients that ordinary people know nothing about. They could even cheat you with your lot size since not many people actually measure the lot they buy.
They will finish the house and lot for you for ADDED expense. Since you already paid a big sum of money and the developer is asking more to FINISH the job, the uneducated client has little choice. If the clients don't know their rights then they just let it slip. For me I will demand this right down to the last letter of the contract.
These are just a few things that could possibly happen. I am sure a lot of devepers, agents, brokers or people connected to them already read this. Lets see if they do the right thing. I will say who the developer is when my friend gets their money back.

hehehe.. TS, ayaw palabi ug pabadlong.. Kuyawa sad anang title nimo oi.. Namaligya ka pero nag-warning... Murag Noli Me Tangere... walang ka-connect2x..

Ang unod sa imong thread wala jud na-belong sa buy and sell section.. Kung nag-promote ka sa Filinvest, straight to the point dayon.. hehe

You want me to post this in the basketball section of istorya?? Haha
There's only one Realstate section at istorya and relevant house and lot buyers are reading in this section not in the basketball section. Lol! Its good to inform them about realstate conditions and developers in cebu.
We can talk in the basketball section and I can inform you how Lebron can win the finals against KD. Noh?

[King LeBron]

You want me to post this in the basketball section of istorya?? Haha
There's only one Realstate section at istorya and relevant house and lot buyers are reading in this section not in the basketball section. Lol! Its good to inform them about realstate conditions and developers in cebu.
We can talk in the basketball section and I can inform you how Lebron can win the finals against KD. Noh?

hahaha.. tan-awa ra.. i-divert lagi dayon ang topic..

if you are not selling and not promoting.. then, why put this under buy and sell? kung nag-warning lang ka, then put it under the proper section.. here's an example I had read a month ago:

https://www.istorya.net/forums/busine...speak-out.html

mas nindot diri na nga section nimo ibutang...

OT: with regards to basketball? mag-huwat ko nimo didto..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@JNOM ...

Why are you so hardheaded ?

What is so hard to comprehend ? Dagahana ra ba gyud sa gi istorya pa nimo dong .

I am not stepping on anyones opinions here otherwise if its your opinion then it clearly suggested a premonition of character assassination . Take for example on this :

To devulge the developer before events are yet to unfold is highly dangerous to the clients. Remember this is not yet put into court proceedings.

Wala pa man diay nahitabo so why bother ? And if it really bothers you , why tell us to buy in FILINVEST ? I thought your campaign here is to warn future property owners ? Imohang gi protektahan by giving a warning diay is ang current investors ?

The word "like" is an analogy not an absolute statement. big developer like filinvest, replace filinvest with aboitiz, replace aboitiz with ayala, replace ayala with dmci, replace dmci with camelia homes.

Dont give me that lame excuse dong . Do you really think I am that stupid ? If in the course of your presentation that your intent is really an " analogy" , why dont you name names instead of only FILINVEST ? Ngano karon na man lang ?

I will say who the developer is when my friend gets their money back.

Why dont you spill the beans now ? That way , you will redeem youself of not actually making any propaganda's here . You know why ? Unless you are not that smart enough to know that this suib forum is about BUYING and SELLING , you are not supposed to bring your drama here . if you want to talk about CUSTOMER SATISFACTION , NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS , REAL ESTATE ... its either there are already numerous threads in existence or its somewhere other than here . Other than that , you are campaigning for FILINVEST because you are promoting it here sa BUY and SELL SECTION .

Are we in the same page now JNOM ??

[dominic43]

naa ba diay forum or sub-forum if ang topic nato kay mga developers ug real estate? LOL!

[cirext]

Very minor. I also have property at aboitiz and also minor complaints. Never an issue about title, ownership, money.

Bro, we have a project at Corona del Mar. And I don't think the Filinvest problem is minor. If Im not mistaken the issues were title & high water fees. Those were the banners posted in every house you can see along the main road of the subdivision. Not minor to me.

We experience this with a company who doesn't want to return our full payment and we have been assisted by a lawyer already and sent a demand letter before.
Oneup realty selling Gio Homes. They have postings everywhere. Owners are liars and sales manager named Raj also will lie to your face. They don't show up at litigation and only sent an errand boy to give back a check with amount that's substantially less from the money we paid.
Selling house and lots that they have not yet fully paid from previous title holders and waiting for you to put up the downpayment so they can pay it with your money. Delayed processing, delayed construction. They're not good to deal with and very unprofessional.

The person mentioned..dli nalang ko moistorya sa iya kalaki..but its good to know many are now knowing him.

[bamboostix2011]

nice reminder