SPIRITUALITY IS NOT RELIGION...

[Sinyalan]

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Why should I make my own explaination.
My own mind and understanding is worthless because it will vary and change from time to time. I just believed in the bible and that's it.
Let God guide us so that we wont be astray.

Peace!

This is what we call Blind Obedience! Why? can't you think of your own?

[rcruman]

Why should I think for my own, God want us to follow not to think and make our own.

Look what happen to you, you think of your own now youre far from the truth of the bible.


Peace!

[tulisan666]

i agree with sinyalan, critical thingking bro...

lisod nang blind obedience, obedience without question...thats what i consider extermemists...

mao nay naka lisod, obey lang ng obey...mu obey pod ka kung pasuloton kag bomba den kaboomno punt intended,

[The_Child]

Why should I think for my own, God want us to follow not to think and make our own.

Look what happen to you, you think of your own now youre far from the truth of the bible.


Peace!

Why should he think for his own? He has Reason but doesnt use it. Its his choice diba?
God is a dictator, the highest ever conceivable dictator by the hUman mind and the Bible is his mouthpiece.

"Smite me oh mighty smiter" -from the movie Bruce Almighty.

[rcruman]

lisod nang blind obedience, obedience without question...thats what i consider extermemists...

mao nay naka lisod, obey lang ng obey...mu obey pod ka kung pasuloton kag bomba den kaboomno punt intended,

Obey the commandments of God which are applicable to our time.
Tell me my friend what are the commandments in the gospel of Christ that will bring us to hell or will give us harm.

You're example about the bomba is a poor example.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

Why should I think for my own, God want us to follow not to think and make our own.

Look what happen to you, you think of your own now youre far from the truth of the bible.


Peace!

Brod, you're not getting my point. If you practically believe in the Bible, nganong gitagaan man ta ug BRAIN? Di ba to think, to use, understand... na-unsa na man hinoon. We have eyes to see, we have hand to touch, we have nose to smell.. and so, He gave us these features aron magamit nato on OUR own right. He gave us WILL POWER asa na man na karon ug dili nimo gamiton? Then, Layo na hinoon ko sa Bible - don't I have right to use the features that GOD himself gave it to me? Even the animals have brains to think... if you don't use your brain to think by your own... that's one of the characteristics of BLIND OBEDIENCE.

[tulisan666]

Obey the commandments of God which are applicable to our time.
Tell me my friend what are the commandments in the gospel of Christ that will bring us to hell or will give us harm.rcruman

wala koy problema sa commandments bro....however, i question the practices that i dont see nor coincide with his commandments, yet are still practiced in the Catholic(which is a religion) view or stand.

blind obedience is good, labi na kung sundalo ka. you dont question orders, the moment you question, you jeopardize the mission ika nga nila. kung sa faith basihan, its a double edge sword, one thing, if your doing great, like living a clean life, iwas gulo, loving and good will and stuff well good for you.
the sad part, blind obedience can turn people like us to good soldiers/good holy warriors/ maybe even suicide bombers. im talking about what your religion, not your spirituality, might do to you.

lastly, blind obedience affects your spirituality...you see things only one way...the way they want you to see.

[rcruman]

Brod, you're not getting my point. If you practically believe in the Bible, nganong gitagaan man ta ug BRAIN? Di ba to think, to use, understand... na-unsa na man hinoon.

Yes we have BRAIN but we use it properly not by our own because we will not know what is the limitations.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Romans 12:3

We have eyes to see, we have hand to touch, we have nose to smell.. and so, He gave us these features aron magamit nato on OUR own right.

But the bible says:
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 Corinthians 4:18.

blind obedience is good, labi na kung sundalo ka. you dont question orders, the moment you question, you jeopardize the mission ika nga nila. kung sa faith basihan, its a double edge sword, one thing, if your doing great, like living a clean life, iwas gulo, loving and good will and stuff well good for you.

Blind obedience is following things that they don't understand.
While in following the commandments of God you must follow it or obey with understanding.
That is why you should prove it first, then thats the time your brain will work.

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

If we will just rely on our own brain then danger will come, let God guide us.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Romans 12:3

Do you know why Romans wrote this statement in the first place? OBEY or you end up like Peter! Don't think just obey. The same people that killed otehr disciples of Christ... the same people that preached vastly all over Europe that there is only one God... and that was their advantage... they exploit people in for what reason? The Romans who in the first killed other people for domination and they wrote something that people would OBEY. Good example? The City within the City.

Blind obedience is following things that they don't understand.
While in following the commandments of God you must follow it or obey with understanding.
That is why you should prove it first, then thats the time your brain will work.

Well, you mean to say that if I don't read the Bible, my BRAIN is worthless?... let me quote you, ...that is why you should prove it first, then that's the time your brain will work." unquote. Lutaw guyd brod, so in your point that people are mindless as long as they read the bible. Interesting source of understanding ang imong point brod! We as a people, that don't believe in the word of God are bunch of *****s. That's harsh. Well brod, this ***** will surely be a sore to your blind obedience... :mrgreen:

[rcruman]

Do you know why Romans wrote this statement in the first place? OBEY or you end up like Peter! Don't think just obey. The same people that killed otehr disciples of Christ... the same people that preached vastly all over Europe that there is only one God... and that was their advantage... they exploit people in for what reason? The Romans who in the first killed other people for domination and they wrote something that people would OBEY. Good example? The City within the City.

Its not the Romans who wrote this book but its An Epistle of Apostle Paul to the Christians first addressed to Rome. Roman Empire killed Jesus Christ.

Well, you mean to say that if I don't read the Bible, my BRAIN is worthless?...
It will still work but on Earthly things.

Lutaw guyd brod, so in your point that people are mindless as long as they read the bible.
No, many are great philosopher, mathematician and genuis on that time but know few about God.
Ang mga Kristiano og mga Apostol sa una kay wala makatiwas og Eskwela ang kadaghanan og mga kabos ang kadaghanan.

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. Acts 4:13.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 1 Corinthians 1:26-29.

There are earthly/flesh knowledge and there are knowledge in spirit and God.

Peace!