if you believe in a God, you don't do anything good just because feel nimo.Originally Posted by ernest9
if you believe in a God, you don't do anything good just because feel nimo.Originally Posted by ernest9
But God is good, you wont know good if you don't follow God's word and commandments.Originally Posted by ernest9
The word of God is Good: Romans 7:12. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Only God is Good:
Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations. Psalms 100:3-5.
Peace!
Originally Posted by palotpot
The Bible says that if I TRUST [not just mere head belief] in the person and saving work of Christ the Savior, I am saved. I have eternal life now.
Notice the word "HAS" in the verse below:
Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Can we know that we have eternal life now? yes.
1Jo 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Salvation is both an event and a process. At the point when the sinner appropriates the saving eternal work of the Savior on the cross by faith [again not head belief], at the moment the sinner clings to the Savior relying on Him alone for salvation, he is justified right at that instant:
Ro 5:1 Therefore, having been justified [notice: not will be justified but justified] by faith [in the Savior--italics mine] we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Three tenses of salvation:
[ for a more thorough study of this click click here: https://www.istorya.net/forums/index.php?topic=82388.0 then look for 3 Tenses of Man's Greatest Experience]
Justified means being declared perfectly righteous IN THE EYES OF GOD even though our state and spiritual condition is not for the moment. This happens at the moment of faith. It is a one time event. It is here when we positionally and judicially became the righteousness of God in Jesus Christ.
Christ became sin for us IN THE EYES OF GOD even though in actual state and condition He is not. He is perfectly sinless. But God made Him sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
2Co 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Upon trusting in Christ alone for salvation, the Holy Spirit came and indwelt the justified sinner. Then begins progressive sanctification. What is progressive sanctification? [note: there are four aspects of sanctification in the Bible, I am now attempting to answer the second; progressive santification.
Sanctification means to set apart or to separate. It exactly has the same meaning as holy or saint. "Holy" or "Saint" means set apart or separate. In salvific sense, it means to be SET APART UNTO GOD forever. The jusified sinner is set apart from the world unto God. The justified sinner is now of God and not of the world.
A sancfified sinner is a saint. "SANCTOFICATION" [oops wrong spelling], rather sanctification [progressive] is the process by which God through His Holy Spirit MAKES the justified sinner righteous. God declared him righteous [justification] He will make him righteous [sanctification. This aspect of salvation takes a lifetime. This process is completed when death comes and eventually when he is raised into the glorious body of the resurrection day.
Php 3:21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Glorfiication is sanctification completed. It is when the declaration has reached its realization through transformation. That verse up there is glorication. When the justified sinner will be like the One who saved him.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is [at His second coming---italics mine].
Since salvation is both an event [that happens now] and a process [fully realized in the future], it is not surprising to see verses like these:
[Notice one verse says now justified sinners are SAVED the other says they will yet be saved.
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Ro 13:11 And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed.
Now the questions:
[i]are you sure dat if you will die today, tomorrow, or d other day....[/i]
Yes, on the authority of God's Word. Bible says that those who trust in Christ for salvation are saved.
Salvation [justification and sanctification] is a now thing.
2Co 6:2 For He says: "In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you." Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.
[i]you will ascend to heavenn...?[/i]
It is best that we know POSITIONAL TRUTH AND CONDITION TRUTHS in the Bible.
What is positional truth? Positional truths are truths stated in the Bible which pertains to our STANDING [not state]. STANDING is what we are in the eyes of God.. CONDITION OR STATE is what we are actually now, our condition.
Raymond is a son of King James and Queen Mary. Therefore by birth, Raymond is a prince by standing.
Though at times Raymond may act unprincely that does not change the fact of his being a prince.
Times are many when his state [or condition] is unprincely----he picks his nose in public, spits in public etc.
Often times he gets rebuked by his parents to act like what he is [according to his standing]. Since he is prince by standing, he should act like one. His state should match his standing.
Now your question my friend:
[i]you will ascend to heavenn...?[/i]
Yes, I will go to heaven because I am now in heaven by POSITION:
Eph 2:6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
Positionally, ,my life is now in heaven with Christ:
Col 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
Notice here that I died with Christ in the eyes of God<-----------positional truth.
When i trusted in Christ alone for salvation, i became so intimately united with HIm that His death is my death and His resurrection is my resurrection, His ascension is my ascenstion that I am now seated with Him in heaven.
But notice also the other half of the verse: "your life is hidden with Christ in God"
postionally i am now with Christ in God.
What happened to Christ happened to the sinner who trust in Him alone for salvation. Since I died with Christ from sin, I should act like one who is freed from sin:
Ro 6:11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Ro 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.
Since I resurrected with Christ when Christ resurrected and now my life is in heaven with Christ in God, seated in the heavens, I should act like I am a citizen of heaven and not do worldly things:
Col 3:1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Col 3:2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth Col 3:3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
All these because I trusted in Christ alone for salvation.
Are you justified in the eyes of God? if not, turn to Christ now and trust Him alone for salvation nothing and no one else. He died for your sins and rose again that if you turn to Him and rely on what He did on the cross you will be justified--sanctified and glorified.
for a more thorough treatment of the tenses of salvation click here: https://www.istorya.net/forums/index.php?topic=82388.0 then look for 3 Tenses of Man's Greatest Experience
Ironside wrote:
Can we know that we have eternal life now? yes.
Is it granted already my friend?
You wrote:
Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Is the death mentioned there is physical death?
Because the bible says: But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Timothy 5:6.
The death there is the death from sins: Romans 6:2-7.
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Because you will be saved and have eternal life : Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
We will still be judge in order to inherent the kingdom of God and have eternal life.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Are you a Baptist?
Peace!
Be good for goodness sake.Originally Posted by junmar4
Follow Him and we will be saved by sins and from the lake of fire (hell) and be with the Lord forever.
Peace!
Naa man sai religion nga kita jud tanan ma save. Cruel man kaayo na ang belief nga naay hell.
unsa man bai?Originally Posted by ernest9
Any religion who believes in a buddhisatva,reincarnation and karma.Originally Posted by junmar4
Dili ka ma happy sa heaven knowing nga ang imung mother or father for example gi sugba sa hell forever. Kana kung naay hell which beleive nga wala.
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