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  1. #21

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak


    Yes, I agree with some of the major points pointed out by Nino Gonzales. I mentioned in another thread, forgot which one, that the only way that the BisRock musicians will stick around is for them to document their music through quality recordings. It doesn't have to be a super expensive production. Let me point out that a full length CD will cost a band (recording process and manufacturing included for 500 cds) around 40 to 50 thousand pesos.

    Forgive the example but its the only legitimate one I have but I remember that when we recorded and manufactured Urbandubs second album Influence, we were so tight on budget that the whole production recording, cover design, plus manufacturing for around 200 cds (which was their initial release) cost about 15K. It took a long time for us to come up with that money but we eventually did after a bunch of gigs. The rest is history, the album is sold quite a number (I am not at liberty to say, am under contract on that one). With the right budgeting plan, an album that is of industry standard (meaning its got enough quality to be sold in a record store) is never impossible. And I have bought quite a number of local CDs, there are a lot of bands that can do it.

    I admire the strength of the BisRock community so far; the listener community is huge! With that kind of suport, it shouldn't be difficult for BisRock bands to find ways to make a little cash to put up the record and sell it at a reasonable price that will help the band record more material. I believe Aggressive Audio is already selling CDs at 150 bucks and thats great! Put simply, help them (and other bands like them who you enjoy a lot) create more of the product by buying their original CD.

  2. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassMoon

    CuJo!!!: I remember those bands, Aliwas and Dr. Wakwak. The latter, as far as I can remember, made songs that are in-your-face type with funny catchy lyrics and had musicians that have tons of talent. Hehehe. Those were the days...

    Those are the type of bisrock songs I wanna listen to.
    yeah glassmoon.. i don't want to brag but if Dr. Wakwak were around today, we would have kicked a lot of bisrak ass!!! hahaha... it just so happens that there wasn't any market for it 11-12yrs ago.. By the way, did you know that our vocalist/guitarist Gereon now plays for the band PASSAGE? He's the one who replaced IRA CRUZ i think.. it's so funny... When we were bandmates, Gereon used to play wearing only his underwear!! Nowadays, i see him playing sa MYX LIVE, tarong pa kaayo ang amaw!! hahahaha!!!! When i was in manila 2 yrs ago, i actually told him that we'd resurrect Dr Wakwak but he declined because it was too much of a risk, with him being a father and all...

    I wish we could give it a go one more time...

  3. #23

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    How to Save Bisrak? simple. make it sound good, musically and sonically.

  4. #24

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    A big question Mark ?

    The quality of music depends on whos listening not our opinion.

    These music will be here to stay because bus, Jeepney drivers
    and out of school youth or standby folks appreciate it. Even if we dont like it.



  5. #25

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    sakto jud bai, who are we to judge sa musicality? bisan pa entitled ta sa ato opinion, wala ta right moquestion sa ila kind of music! If dili ka ganahan don't listen to them!
    Question lang, why do we listen to Greenday and not to One man down or Twinkle Dudu? Why listen to Eraserheads and not to Missing Filemon? Or Dead Nails/Grin Department and not to Jimmy Cycle? Or Parokya ni Edgar and not to Aggressive Audio?
    Sa tawo na bai, wala sa technical aspects sa music!!!

    Way back years ago pa na when we still have The Abyss, Instinct, Fivez, Leon Kilat, Etc, wala na jud suporta from our own people!!! Instead, sige scrutinize!!

  6. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by null
    the problem is the lyrics...
    they're funny but nothing good comes out of it in the end...
    cebuano lyricists need to write serious stuff...

    kong seryoso ilang sinuwatan...
    seryoso sad ang maminaw nila...
    makapalambo sad sila sa bisaya...
    sakto kaau ka bai..
    the lyrics are just made for the sake of having a song which should not be the case

    I do admit I have followed Bisrock before, but as I have heard new songs and sounds (which just pisses me off)
    nawagtang akong gana sa Bisrock!..

    Ang sense sa ilang kanta ------EMPTY----- wala...
    With all due respect to MISSING FILEMON with Insoy as the Mastermind, naay depth ang ilang songs ug dapat in-ani i-base ang lyrics sa uban..
    not totally i-mimic ang song, lyrics ug thought .. but the sincerity to make the music be hear ba... ang imong passion...

    "Sinesine wala tay laing lingaw
    Kandila luyo sa habol
    Katawang binayran og pisong kinawat
    Sa gubaong pitakang lola

    Anino sa mga artistang papel
    Gihinganlan tag si Pedro’g Sabel
    Sila’ng bida niadtong estorya
    Sa gugma nga way katumanan"

    YES you can write about LOVE, HATE and all other feelings (you can always do), pero ayaw sd i limit ang scope sa song sa usa ka girl nga wala ka tagda, or wala ka sugta, or dili kamo,or sa damgo ra kamo, or naggunit inyo kamot.. db?!... mao ni kuwang sa BISROCK .. at least put another perspective into your subject..

    mao rajud ni ako masulti!...

  7. #27

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    To save them/us? More and more and more and more styles & genre.

    Dili ta mangadto sa Manila para lang makita ta sa MTV or MYX or para masulod ta sa SONY records or STAR records. Let them come to Cebu para moluhod sila sa atong atubangan ug mohangyo nga mo sign up ta nila or para ila i.cover ato mga shows.

    Impossible? Big NO, we can do it!!!

  8. #28

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    Quote Originally Posted by bettlesucks
    To save them/us? More and more and more and more styles & genre.

    Dili ta mangadto sa Manila para lang makita ta sa MTV or MYX or para masulod ta sa SONY records or STAR records. Let them come to Cebu para moluhod sila sa atong atubangan ug mohangyo nga mo sign up ta nila or para ila i.cover ato mga shows.

    Impossible? Big NO, we can do it!!!
    yeah!a big no for the real artist..like urban dub,faspitch,picture filled,hatemail,nyor and pelican street! but for u bisrockers...get a life...

  9. #29

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    bisrock : visayan rock - a music scene growing in its terrible infancy, slowly dominanting southern philippines. if it is taken for granted locally, it would end up merely as a hype, but if taken seriously it would become a cultural movement worthy of historical recognition.

    just bumped into this in blood of the stones' myspcae account.

  10. #30

    Default Re: How to Save Bisrak

    Quote Originally Posted by macho man
    yeah!a big no for the real artist..like urban dub,faspitch,picture filled,hatemail,nyor and pelican street! but for u bisrockers...get a life...
    ayaw anah part. to each his own. lahi2x ang tirada sa taw, dili tanan kasakay sa trip but the important thing is showing respect.


    bisrock has been usurping the scene even the early or late 90s with bands like The Roots, ETU..katong mga scum bands saona nga nadunggan ra nako sa radio. hehe. di pa lang "bisrock" ang term ato(ambot unsa kaha!). and mind you, it has its own share and high and low...(pero mura ug karon high na man perme). heheh.

    so if there is something bisrock worth saving from i think, is becoming too commercialized or bastardized to the point of being just a hype.

    mo-agree ko sa gisulti sa bandang "blood of the stone". insakto kaayo.

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