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    The Pope's Role in a German Priest's ***-Abuse Scandal - TIME
    Monday, Mar. 15, 2010
    German Priests' *** Abuse Scandalizes Church
    By Tristana Moore / Berlin

    Back in April 2005, Germany was overjoyed when a native son was elevated to the papacy. But in the past week, the Catholic Church in the country has faced a barrage of criticism from politicians and the media as well as from the faithful — and much of the ire is focused on the German who is now Supreme Pontiff in Rome. On Monday, the daily Süddeutsche Zeitung splashed the headline "Benedict XVI Remains Silent" on a front-page story describing how the Pope declined to comment on the growing priestly sexual-abuse scandal in his native Germany during public prayers in the Vatican on Sunday. "The abuse scandal has been a nightmare," Alois Glück, president of Germany's lay organization, the Central Committee of German Catholics, tells TIME. "It's one of the worst crises that we've seen in the Catholic Church here in Germany."

    The Catholic Church has been on the defensive in Germany since January, when at least 50 cases of sexual abuse from the 1970s and '80s were reported at the Jesuit high school, Canisius College, in Berlin — with two priests linked as alleged perpetrators. That was the catalyst. Within weeks, dozens of victims came forward with accusations at other Catholic schools and institutions. With up to 200 allegations of abuse, 22 out of Germany's 27 Roman Catholic dioceses have been affected by the scandal. Even the famous choir of Regensburg, in Bavaria, which the Pope's brother Georg Ratzinger led for 30 years, has been drawn into the scandal, after former choirboys described a "system of sadistic punishments and sexual lust." (The retired Georg Ratzinger says he didn't know about the alleged sexual-abuse incidents.) (See pictures of Pope Benedict XVI.)

    Benedict himself has been linked to the latest controversies. In the early 1980s, a priest suspected of abuse was transferred to the Pope's former archdiocese in Munich — and that case has raised further awkward questions about the church's handling of abuse allegations. Last Friday, the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising confirmed in a statement that "serious mistakes were made in the 1980s" after the priest, known as "Father H," was moved from the western city of Essen to Munich and was allowed to continue with his pastoral work. According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung, Father H had been transferred from Essen after he allegedly forced an 11-year-old boy to engage in oral ***.

    Church officials in Munich said the Pope, who as Joseph Ratzinger was Archbishop of Munich from 1977 to 1982, was involved in the decision to house the priest at the archdiocese so he could receive therapy. But the archdiocese insisted that the decision to reassign the priest to pastoral work was taken by Archbishop Ratzinger's then deputy, Vicar General Gerhard Gruber, who said he took full responsibility for the decision to allow the priest to return to work. Father H was convicted in 1986 of sexually abusing minors, receiving a suspended prison sentence and a fine. Despite the jail sentence, the priest controversially carried on with his pastoral duties.

    On Sunday, some members of the congregation in Bavaria where the priest used to work walked out of Mass in protest, furious after reading reports about the history of abuse. On Monday, the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising announced that Father H was being suspended immediately from his pastoral duties (ministering to tourists in the Bavarian spa town of Bad Tölz) because he had violated the conditions under which he was allowed to work, which prohibited contact with young people. Church officials in Munich said there were no new reports of sexual abuse linked to the priest. His superior, Prelate Josef Obermaier, resigned on Monday. (See Pope Benedict's ***-abuse challenge.)

    "It's very disappointing that the Pope has kept silent on this issue," says Chris Weisner, spokesman for the Catholic reform group We Are Church. "Many Catholics in Germany had hoped that the Pope would have expressed a word of personal sympathy for the victims of abuse," he said. Indeed, on the Good Friday before Ratzinger became Pope in 2005, he issued a resounding call for reform in the church, saying, "How much filth there is in the church, and even among those ... in the priesthood" — widely believed to have been a reference to the abuse scandals affecting the church's standing in North America and other parts of the world. The church's reputation in Germany has taken a beating from the daily drip of new allegations. A poll published by the TNS Emnid Institute on Sunday found that 71% of Germans believe the abuse scandal has damaged the credibility of the Catholic Church.

    The Vatican issued stern statements over the weekend suggesting there was a plot to smear the Pope. The head of Germany's Catholic Church, Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, held a private audience with the Pope at the Vatican on Friday. After their meeting, the head of the German Bishops' Conference said he'd briefed the Pope on the situation in Germany. "With great shock, keen interest and deep sadness, the Holy Father took note of what I had to say," Zollitsch told reporters. The Archbishop said the Pope had encouraged German bishops to proceed with "determination and courage" in investigating the allegations of abuse, and added that church leaders in Germany would intensify preventive measures in schools and local communities and conduct a review of current guidelines on priests suspected of abuse. The aim, he said, was to "uncover the truth and have an honest clarification" of the incidents, even if they took place years ago.

    It remains to be seen if that will be enough to allay the frustrations of Catholics who feel the church has been keener on protecting accused priests than comforting their alleged victims. Catholic grass-roots groups say the church should set up more telephone hotlines so victims of abuse can report cases easily and needs to be more proactive in dealing with errant priests. "The church should actively cooperate with state prosecutors in making public abuse cases and step up preventive measures, like background checks and training young priests and children to identify and avoid sexual abuse," says Weisner. "In the past, the church's priority was to protect itself, and this encouraged a culture of cover-up and looking away," says Glück, the lay Catholic leader. "The priority now should be to care for the victims and review some of the structures within the church."

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by masterjanuarius View Post
    This guy is sick!!! He should not have been a priest in the first place .. mao na nga kinahanglan mag bantay ang mga seminario sa pag screen sa mga candidates sa pagkapari aron walay psycho nga ma-ordinahan .. ako deboto nga katoliko ug bisan dunay kahuyang ang mga pari, kay tawo man jud .. ang akong pagtoo sa Ginoo ug ang pagka meyembro sa simbahang katoliko dili matarog. I don't pretend too much from the priests .. kay sama nila, I also have my limitations and weaknesses. Mao kini ang akong baroganan .. downfall of the Roman Catholic Church? I doubt, "even the jaws of hell can't overcome it" according to Christ .. maybe Purification aron ang mga angayan ug halangdong pari ra ang mosilbi sa simbahan.
    Unsa on nalang sa mga tarong pari, ang SANTO PAPA mora gani nagpanalipod pud aning pari a walwa siya makapapahawa ug ila daw nga priority ma stop ang abuse...........waaaaaaaaaaaaa what about the abuser?




    How do we know tarong ang pari natu?

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu View Post
    How do we know tarong ang pari natu?
    We simply wont know. Here is an older story...
    BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Philippines Church apologises for *** abuse

    Philippines Church apologises for *** abuse
    Church interior
    Scandals have hit the Catholic Church across the world
    The Philippines Catholic Church has apologised for sexual abuse by hundreds of its priests over the last 20 years.


    To the various crises in society, we must now, with great sorrow and shame, add problems in the Church

    Archbishop Orlando Quevedo
    The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines said on Monday that it was now drafting guidelines on how to deal with such offences by its clergy.

    When sexual scandals involving Catholic priests in the US came to light earlier this year, the Philippines media began reporting on abuses by local priests.

    Monday's statement was the first official response from the Church in the Philippines, where at least 85% of the 76 million-strong population is Catholic.

    Hundreds suspected

    According to the president of the Catholic Bishops Conference, Archbishop Orlando Quevedo, about 200 of the country's 7,000 priests may have committed "sexual misconduct" - including child abuse, homosexuality and affairs - over the past two decades.

    "To the various crises in society, we must now, with great sorrow and shame, add problems in the Church", said a statement by the bishops read to a news conference on Monday.

    "Sexual misconduct on the part of shepherds of the flock betrays the holy priesthood that Christ has shared."

    A protocol is being drafted by the bishops on dealing with sexual abuse cases. The guidelines will include encouraging victims of assaults to file criminal charges, said the president of the Catholic Bishops Conference.

    The Philippines is one of several Asian countries which have been wracked by sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church in the past few months.

    Bishops in Australia and New Zealand have apologised to dozens of victims of sexual abuse carried out by priests and police are investigating several priests in Hong Kong for alleged indecent assault.

  4. #24
    Ang Santo Papa Ratzzinger ug si Cardinal Vidal wala gyuy kala inan, tabunan gyud nila ang mga pari na ma involve ug *** scandal, if naka remember mo atong pari na, gikiha ug mga estudyante sa abella kay nanghikap, nahilom ra ug wala gyud na pasakahan ug kaso. Kanang scandal sa simala, wala ra sad.

    Ang pari wala gyud ni kala inan sa ordinaryo na taw, naa sad ni silay kahuyang na pagbati! tungod ni bag o na ang moralidad sa taw tungod sa teknolohiya ug ebolosyon sa panahon.

    Hina ut sa tanang mga katoliko na dili ang pari or personalidad ang atong gi simba kundili ang Ginoo na makagagahum! Jesus Christo...(medyo lain lang na ang nag facilitate sa misa usa ka *** offender!)

    I ampo nalang nato mga igso on.

  5. #25
    because of wrong teachings, most priests live in a fornicating life....if the priest is not a homsexual , he is either a pedophile, if not some priests use prostitutes to satisfy their urges. How come priests are not allowed to marry when in fact ST. Peter, James, Andrew all have wives and children. The Roman Catholic church have failed miserebly to follow the true teachings of Jesus. Have you noticed that Catholic nations are generally poor -- Mexico, Argentina, Velenzuela, Philippines etc... because wrong teachings lead to wrong life, a curse to nations .

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by horhe1286 View Post
    ..hehehehhe..kamo bay mapari lalim bah!!!!!!!..hahahha..you know what i mean!
    because of wrong teachings, most priests live in a fornicating life....if the priest is not a homsexual , he is either a pedophile, if not some priests use prostitutes to satisfy their urges. How come priests are not allowed to marry when in fact ST. Peter, James, Andrew all have wives and children. The Roman Catholic church have failed miserebly to follow the true teachings of Jesus. Have you noticed that Catholic nations are generally poor -- Mexico, Argentina, Velenzuela, Philippines etc... because wrong teachings lead to wrong life, a curse to nations .

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by rubillar123 View Post
    because of wrong teachings, most priests live in a fornicating life....if the priest is not a homsexual , he is either a pedophile, if not some priests use prostitutes to satisfy their urges. How come priests are not allowed to marry when in fact ST. Peter, James, Andrew all have wives and children. The Roman Catholic church have failed miserebly to follow the true teachings of Jesus. Have you noticed that Catholic nations are generally poor -- Mexico, Argentina, Velenzuela, Philippines etc... because wrong teachings lead to wrong life, a curse to nations .
    Is Jesus Christ a Rich guy?

  8. #28
    Mga taw ra man ghapon ni sila...Vocation, Calling Whatever...Dapat pud ta patagamun after a careful due process para mahadluk na mu buhat ug salaun...mura ra gud diri sa istorya.net...i mute or silence ka or ban kung makasala ka or ma excessive infraction ka para di na nimo buhatun ang imung sayung nga binuhatan..Tan awa ako a avatar..naa koy infraction kay nakasala man ko pero ako gidawat kay nakasala man ko..bwahahaha

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by herzabarJR View Post
    Some of you guys talk as if this is just another isolated incident and that there is just one priest involved. Do you guys even watch the major news network like CNN, BBC and FOXNEWS? This is the biggest crises now facing the Catholic Church....
    Dili man siguro mo-abot ani na point kung ila pa gi-disciplina ang mga pari.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by rubillar123 View Post
    because of wrong teachings, most priests live in a fornicating life....if the priest is not a homsexual , he is either a pedophile, if not some priests use prostitutes to satisfy their urges. How come priests are not allowed to marry when in fact ST. Peter, James, Andrew all have wives and children. The Roman Catholic church have failed miserebly to follow the true teachings of Jesus. Have you noticed that Catholic nations are generally poor -- Mexico, Argentina, Velenzuela, Philippines etc... because wrong teachings lead to wrong life, a curse to nations .
    Hala ka kuyaw ani nga point of view! pero naa ay sense. Mu uyon ko na sa sobra ka faithfull maka pobre sa nasud.

    Pero usahay sad datu lagi sila na nasud pero ang moralidad pobre..

    Pero agree ko na usa ni sa rason nganong pobre ang pilipinas! tanan isalig sa ginoo, ang uban kay dili na maningkamot kay salig tanan sa ginoo. HAsta pag pusta sa lotto isalig sa ginoo. kana gyud ako na experience sa akong silingan sa una kay ila gyud gi ampo nga maka daug sila sa derby inig ka ugma. (daug usahay, pildi usahay)...

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