The Philippines: Love it, Hate it, What does it take?

[benign0]

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Remains to be seen what these "jologs" could really do. I believe it does not look promising. Here are some facts about the jolog-driven rally of yesterday:

"Organizers said the crowd would swell over the day to 40,000 or 50,000 -- a big step up from recent rallies of 8,000 but far from the hundreds of thousands who took to the streets of Manila to overthrow presidents in 1986 and 2001.... Beefing up a rally is not difficult in the Philippines, with people often offered a fast-food meal and a small payout to march and chant. But crowds have been known to lose their unity when the food or money runs short."
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...lly_in_manila/

"On both occasions, the Catholic Church and the powerful military withdrew their support from the presidents—but that hasn’t happened this time... Left-wing groups and supporters of Estrada—who has volunteered to serve as a transitional leader if Mrs. Arroyo is ousted—transported protesters by bus and jeeps from the provinces, police said...The crowd was a mix of leftist factory workers, students and star-struck supporters of Fernando Poe as well as of Estrada."
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...?StoryId=10396

"There were no signs yet that Arroyo's traditional foes - leftist, student and farmers' groups combined with supporters of deposed president Joseph Estrada - were being joined by the middle class, whose presence was crucial in past uprisings... The threat to reforms prompted Moody's Investors Service on Wednesday to join the two other major ratings agencies in cutting a stable outlook for the Philippines to negative."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...801595BB12.htm


And check this out (the HAKOT BUDGET -- so much for sponteinuty):
"Anti-Arroyo forces said they have 25 million pesos (HK$3.51 million) for protests due to run until Sunday."
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/s.../GG14Wd02.html

ha ha ha:
"But the massive crowd's mood was more festive than angry. It looked like a huge street party with an interesting mix of characters... Street vendors were out in full force, peddling corn on the cob, boiled bananas, fish balls, deep-fried chicken gizzards on a stick and scoops of ice cream on hamburger buns.... Music and entertainment were another crucial component, keeping the crowds from drifting away. Pop stars crooned on a huge stage and the "*** Bomb" dancers--a group of young women in tight white tops and blue capri pants--did the classic bump and grind."
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/net/2005/07/13/politics.foodfest.people.watching.in.anti.arroyo.r ally.(7.40.p.m.).html

Even more pathetic (akala ko ba there are hundreds of thousands of Pinoys in San Francisco? ):
"Filipino-Americans in San Francisco, California, on Tuesday (Wednesday in Manila) staged a protest rally against President Arroyo... Thirty activists belonging to the US chapter of the left-wing Bayan Muna protested outside the Philippine consulate at about the same time that a similar demonstration was being held in Makati Wednesday afternoon."

Pati ba naman sa 'tate, hakot pa rin!
http://news.balita.ph/html/public_ht...50713093528832


And some indication of what the aftermath of fieStas like these could be:

"Moody's Investors Service decided Wednesday to join the two other major credit ratings agencies in cutting a ``stable outlook'' for the Philippines to ``negative.'' And the Asian Development Bank said its lending to the country over the next three years could range from nothing to US$1.5 billion (HK$11.7 billion) - depending on the pace of reforms."
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/s.../GG14Wd02.html

"Meanwhile, the Asian Development Bank said on Wednesday it may cut off lending to the Philippines unless it speeds up reforms designed to shore up its fiscal position."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...801595BB12.htm



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[franz]

samok samok lang tong mga nag-rally... hehehe..

ila pa lang to idevelop or gi-invest ang gasto nila... mas mu-nindot pa tingali ang pinas

[JawBreaker]

This is an essay written by a Korean student.

My Short Essay about the Philippines

Jaeyoun Kim


Filipinos always complain about the corruption in the Philippines. Do you really think the corruption is the problem of the Philippines? I do not think
so. I strongly believe that the problem is the lack of love for the Philippines.

Let me first talk about my country, Korea. It might help you understand my point. After the Korean War, South Korea was one of the poorest countries in the world. Koreans had to start from scratch because entire country was destroyed completely after the Korean War, and we had no natural resources.
Koreans used to talk about the Philippines, for Filipinos were very rich in Asia. We envy Filipinos. Koreans really wanted to be well off like Filipinos. Many Koreans died of famine. My father's brother also died because of famine. Korean government was awfully corrupt and is still very corrupt beyond your imagination, but Korea was able to develop dramatically because Koreans
really did their best for the common good with their heart burning with patriotism. Koreans did not work just for themselves but also for their neighborhood and country. Education inspired young men with the spirit of patriotism.

40 years ago, President Park took over the government to reform Korea. He tried to borrow money from other countries, but it was not possible to get a loan and attract a foreign investment because the economy situation of South Korea was so bad. Korea had only three factories. So, President Park sent many mine
workers and nurses to Germany so that they could send money to Korea to build a factory. They had to go through a horrible experience.

In 1964, President Park visited Germany to borrow money. Hundred of Koreans in Germany came to the airport to welcome him and cried there as they saw the President Park. They asked to him, "President, when can we be well off?" That was the only question
everyone asked to him. President Park cried with them and promised them that Korea would be well off if everyone works hard for Korea, and the President of Germany got the strong impression on them and lent money to Korea. So, President Park
was able to build many factories in Korea. He always asked Koreans to love their country from their heart. Many Korean scientists and engineers in the USA came back to Korea to help developing country because they wanted their country to be well off. Though they received very small salary, they did their
best for Korea. They always hoped that their children would live in well off country.

My parents always brought me to the places where poor and physically handicapped people live. They wanted me to understand their life and help them. I also worked for Catholic Church when I was in the army. The only thing I learned from Catholic Church was that we have to love our neighborhood. And I have
loved my neighborhood.

Have you cried for the Philippines? I have cried for my country several times. I also cried for the Philippines because of so many poor people. I have been to the New Bilibid prison. What made me sad in the prison were the prisoners who do not have any love for their country. They go to mass and work for Church. They pray everyday. However, they do not love the Philippines. I talked to
two prisoners at the maximum security compound, and both of them said that they would leave the Philippines right after they are released from the prison. They said that they would start a new life in other countries and never come back to the Philippines.

Many Koreans have a great love for Korea so that we were able to share our wealth with our neighborhood. The owners of factory and company were distributed their profit to their employees fairly so that employees could buy what they needed and saved money for the future and their children.

When I was in Korea, I had a very strong faith and wanted to be a
priest. However, when I came to the Philippines, I completely lost my faith. I was very confused when I saw many unbelievable situations in the Philippines. Street kids always make me sad, and I see them everyday. The Philippines is the only
Catholic country in Asia, but there are too many poor people here. People go to church every Sunday to pray, but nothing has been changed.

My parents came to the Philippines last week and saw this situation. They told me that Korea was much poorer than the present Philippines when they were young. They are
so sorry that there so many beggars and street kids. When we went to Pasangjan, I forced my parents to take a boat because it would fun. However, they were not happy after taking a boat. They said that they would not take the boat again
because they were sympathized the boat men, for the boat men were very poor and had a small frame. Most of people just took a boat and enjoyed it. But my parents did not enjoy it because of love for them.

My mother who has been working for Catholic Church since I was very
young told me that if we just go to mass without changing ourselves, we are not Catholic indeed. Faith should come with action. She added that I have to love
Filipinos and do good things for them because all of us are same and have received a great love from God. I want Filipinos to love their neighborhood and country as much as they love God so that the Philippines will be well off. I am sure that love is the
keyword which Filipinos should remember. We cannot change the sinful structure at once. It should start from person. Love must start in everybody in a small scale and have to grow. A lot of things happen if we open up to love. Let's
put away our prejudices and look at our worries with our new eyes. I discover that every person is worthy to be loved. Trust in love, because it makes changes possible. Love changes you and me. It changes people, contexts and relationships.
It changes the world. Please love your neighborhood and country. Jesus Christ said that whatever we do to others we do to Him. In the Philippines, there is God for people who are abused and abandoned. There is God who is crying for love. If you have a
child, teach them how to love the Philippines. Teach them why they have to love their neighborhood and country. You already know that God also will be very happy if you love others.

That's all I really want to ask you Filipinos.

[bengerboy]

wala jud au ang mga nag rally... nag dalal lang tigaw... nag pa samot-samot lang sa kasamok...

[Moshi Moshi]

In 2001, when he was Pampanga vice governor, he had P3,327,686.12 in cash, P250,000 worth of personal effects and P2,144,101.17 in shares of stock, for a net worth of P5,721,787.29. In 2002, his wealth dwindled to P5,003,023.79 due to a decrease in his cash holdings by more than P700,000.

When Mikey became a congressman in 2004, his net worth jumped to P74,436,738.79.


https://www.istorya.net/forums/index....681#msg1035681

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507140413.htm

[websniper]

truth hurts.

[polie]

Mga bro (franz and bengerboy), during the time of ERAP and MARCOS, did you say the same thing to that same crowd that is in EDSA now? Where you able to say those words like "samok samok" to them that time?
Kamo, were you able to do this kind of things like sacrificing on whatever responsibilities they might be doing instead of this because they fight for our country and for our children...Mga bro before mo sulti ana i feel kung unsay ilang gi paglaban ddto aron makabalo mo kung unsa ang real score nganong naa sila ddto....

[FK]

para nila samok2x kay ang ila mang manok maoy gitira... I think nag ingon sab ang mga ERAP fans ani sa una. "samok2x man na sila oi."

[blank]

In 2001, when he was Pampanga vice governor, he had P3,327,686.12 in cash, P250,000 worth of personal effects and P2,144,101.17 in shares of stock, for a net worth of P5,721,787.29. In 2002, his wealth dwindled to P5,003,023.79 due to a decrease in his cash holdings by more than P700,000.

When Mikey became a congressman in 2004, his net worth jumped to P74,436,738.79.


https://www.istorya.net/forums/index....681#msg1035681

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200507140413.htm

Kasohi na lang si Mikey, then prove na nangurakot siya.... His the one in question here not the president.

[blank]

Mga bro (franz and bengerboy), during the time of ERAP and MARCOS, did you say the same thing to that same crowd that is in EDSA now? Where you able to say those words like "samok samok" to them that time?
Kamo, were you able to do this kind of things like sacrificing on whatever responsibilities they might be doing instead of this because they fight for our country and for our children...Mga bro before mo sulti ana i feel kung unsay ilang gi paglaban ddto aron makabalo mo kung unsa ang real score nganong naa sila ddto....

During the time of Marcos they were right to make such move however I believe na sobra lang pud sila Karon. Sa pagkakaron nakita man gud nako na mas mogubot lang ang kahimtang sa ato nasud if cge sila ing-ani. And in a long run dili ni siya makaayo sa ato or para sa ato mga anak in the future. Why? we just succedd in ousting ERAP a few years back now we are trying to make GMA resign kay naa mga anomaliya.... Unsaon man nato ni paghimo na mastable ato country na ang makalingkod sa pagkaPresidente naa man gyud anomaliya so cge na lang diay ni nato pahawaon sila sa ilang pwesto? And these move will create a domino effect which will affect our economy and stability of the country.