How Did The Concept (or idea) of Atheism Change Your Life?

[jamesmusslewhite]

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i don't blame you, kebs. i don't blame anyone. each one of us has different paths to walk. so, to each his own. just don't lose the respect for those who think different from yours.

be he an atheist, theist, heretic, fanatic, religionist, mystic, or whatever, we are all One.

Good point. This thread is meant to act as a Round Table discussion. There is no head and all members sitting at this table are equal and free. We are all knights of our faiths, but knights lived by a common "Code of Chivalry" despite religious beliefs. Lets try to adhere to a moral code of "Respect". Our code of Chivalry is to remain Fair and Balanced, while always remaining respectful of others.

[bluedes]

xerox copy..

[bluedes]

because doubt is not a sin
--- applies to you doctrine only.

wow, to doubt is a sin.. what kind of ideology is that.. the moment you doubt, you already sin? talk about mind control..

Athiest always think they are smart because they use brain to prove something... but something just cannot be proven and remains to be faith. They will always deny this faith.

In essence,

Athiest are some sort of dictators, they want to control their own life and want to govern people because they felt the superiority in how they think. Remember most Dictators are Athiest.

Athiest are some sort of communist, they suppress the belief of supernatural. Therefore taking away the right to believe. Example, most communist country prohibits the belief og God, instead imposing that each of them are gods in thier own little way... amf!

Athiest are some sort of SATANIST. They always oppose the moral teaching. Thus taking away the very essence of RIGHT and WRONG. In dogma standpoint SATAN is the metaphor of EVIL. SATANIST accept the fact that they are ATHIEST too.

So what is the benefit of becoming an Athiest? NONE. IMO.

Naa pa bay athiest diri?

and yet another alternative translation..

Religionists always think they are smart because they use their beliefs to ascertain something as absolute without question... but something just cannot be proven and remains to be belief. They will always deny this reasoning.

In essence,

Religionists are some sort of dictators, they want to control other's life and want to govern people because they felt the superiority in how they believe. Remember most Dictators are Religionists.

Religionists are some sort of communist, they suppress the faculty of reason and knowledge. Therefore taking away the right to analyze and think properly. Example, most religionist country prohibits the free publication of science and knowledge, instead imposing that each of them have the more powerful gods in thier own little way... and even to the point of using science to prove their belief is more powerful.. amf!

Religionists are some sort of SATANIST. They always oppose the humanistic teaching. Remember, SATAN does not care about man. Thus taking away the very essence of what is good for humans. In dogma standpoint SATAN is the metaphor of EVIL. SATANIST accept the fact that they are RELIGIONIST too, because they also acknowledge that God is real, just like religionists.

So what is the benefit of becoming an Religionist? NONE. IMO.

Naa pa bay religionist diri?

[jamesmusslewhite]

xerox copy..

Well yes and no, I did use a general outline and concept. I hope to make it a good thread where people can post facts and opinions without retaliation. Where the TS is fair and balanced and tries to be impartial as to allow everyone the opportunity to present their viewpoints without predigests, ridicule, or personal agendas. A place where intelligent people can discuss with other intellectuals in a free exchange of concepts and ideas. I will always try my best to be respectful to all members who post on this thread. This thread is meant only for education and not for personal sport. If a member does not want the opportunity to present the finer points of their personal views, and have an opportunity to examine and compare them to other religions and beliefs, in an intellectual forum discussion; then I am sure there are other threads in which for them to engage.

If it is a cheap xerox copy or a major improvement is still to be seen. That depends mostly on the quality and class of the member's who post and the attitudes they bring to the table. I have only had one negative post so far.

[bluedes]

Well yes and no, I did use a general outline and concept. I hope to make it a good thread where people can post facts and opinions without retaliation. Where the TS is fair and balanced and tries to be impartial as to allow everyone the opportunity to present their viewpoints without predigests, ridicule, or personal agendas. A place where intelligent people can discuss with other intellectuals in a free exchange of concepts and ideas. I will always try my best to be respectful to all members who post on this thread. This thread is meant only for education and not for personal sport. If a member does not want the opportunity to present the finer points of their personal views, and have an opportunity to examine and compare them to other religions and beliefs, in an intellectual forum discussion; then I am sure there are other threads in which for them to engage.

If it is a cheap xerox copy or a major improvement is still to be seen. That depends mostly on the quality and class of the member's who post and the attitudes they bring to the table. I have only had one negative post so far.

so you're saying that negative posts are not allowed? what kind of fair and free enterprise is that?

depends on how you interpret it.. i never said its cheap.. i merely said its xerox copy.. do u know that there are expensive photocopies that cost 3 times as much as the cheap ones?

don't be so defensive.. k..

[jamesmusslewhite]

wow, to doubt is a sin.. what kind of ideology is that.. the moment you doubt, you already sin? talk about mind control..



and yet another alternative translation..

That is the very reason that I started this thread. The idea that a member thinks they have the right to alter or rearranges another members words for their on personal argument is deplorable behavior and does not pass as intellectual debate. If you can not use facts or your intellect than do not resort to insulting and childish behavior. If you do not like my thread, fine but at least conduct yourself as an adult. Please refrain from doing that again. That behavior can only serve to incite and corrupt this thread, which I am sure was your intention since the Mod call you down for that behavior already. That you can do on your thread. This is an educational thread not a petty zoo.

[honey89]

so you're saying that negative posts are not allowed? what kind of fair and free enterprise is that?

depends on how you interpret it.. i never said its cheap.. i merely said its xerox copy.. do u know that there are expensive photocopies that cost 3 times as much as the cheap ones?

don't be so defensive.. k..

I believe that what James is trying to say is that so far there's only one person that for him deviates from the rules he stated in the first post. It could be that the "negative" person is not trying to discuss intelligently.

Anyway, I don't quite understand what you mean by xerox copy. Care to explain?

[jamesmusslewhite]

so you're saying that negative posts are not allowed? what kind of fair and free enterprise is that?

depends on how you interpret it.. i never said its cheap.. i merely said its xerox copy.. do u know that there are expensive photocopies that cost 3 times as much as the cheap ones?

don't be so defensive.. k..

Yes negative comments are allowed if within a topic exchange but should be always backed by facts. The one negative post was Kebots and I posted a reply to him before you decided to butcher is post. So now I have two negative post it seems. Why don't you take your negative attitude to your thread and not try to undermine mine?

the term cheap copy are my own personal words. I started this thread with the intent that intellectuals could discuss facts without the petty arguments. To show everyone and the Mods that members could have the temperament, class, intelligence, and maturity to discuss the topic of Religion and Atheism as mature adults. If it fails then it is just a cheap copy.

This thread is an experiment to test if this topic can be discussed and kept civil. You knows the Mods are looking so present you case and your supporting fact. Give the members your testament, and you reasoning for choosing to be an Atheist. What do you feel are the benefits. There are members who want to know. I will not twist your words or push an agenda. This thread is for education. It was established to be both Respectful & Fair and Balanced. I would like you to contribute.

You claim you are studying to be a scientist then try to act like a scientist.

[bluedes]

That is the very reason that I started this thread. The idea that a member thinks they have the right to alter or rearranges another members words for their on personal argument is deplorable behavior and does not pass as intellectual debate. If you can not use facts or your intellect than do not resort to insulting and childish behavior. If you do not like my thread, fine but at least conduct yourself as an adult. Please refrain from doing that again. That behavior can only serve to incite and corrupt this thread, which I am sure was your intention since the Mod call you down for that behavior already. That you can do on your thread. This is an educational thread not a petty zoo.

thinks they have the right to alter or rearrange another member's words? duhhh...

why is that insulting? just because you're given a mirror and you don't like what you see? You people are childish, and playing such childish games.. in what way will that corrupt the thread?

you see, your problem is you're dealing with dualities.. for every duality, the extreme can and will always be shown as good as the other extreme without fail.. that is the nature of duality.. the one cannot exist without the other.. so you can never show that yours is better than the other because you depend on the other for your own existence..

that's what I'm doing here, I'm merely showing you that for every extreme you point out, I can simply rephrase your statements in the other extreme and it would be as good as your end of the extreme.. but obviously, you can't see that, because you're just too blinded by your own one-sided belief.. *sigh*

you are insulted because your high horse of one extreme has been put down by the high horse of the other extreme.. that's the dualist nature.. if you can't accept that, you're being a hypocrite..

[bluedes]

Yes negative comments are allowed if within a topic exchange but should be always backed by facts. The one negative post was Kebots and I posted a reply to him before you decided to butcher is post. So now I have two negative post it seems. Why don't you take your negative attitude to your thread and not try to undermine mine?

the term cheap copy are my own personal words. I started this thread with the intent that intellectuals could discuss facts without the petty arguments. To show everyone and the Mods that members could have the temperament, class, intelligence, and maturity to discuss the topic of Religion and Atheism as mature adults. If it fails then it is just a cheap copy.

okay, so now its two negative posts..

for every extreme here, its quite simple to show the opposite extreme.. it's just a mirror of duality.. that's the beauty of it.. i don't have to have any "selfish agenda" or "demented amusement" or whatever.. I merely bring a mirror, and reflect it back.. its that easy..