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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Yes everyone will go back to the Godhead, at the Final Judgment.
    not in our world. In our world everything will be pure and beautiful again...EVERYTHING...for everything comes from The One. This ONE is pure,loving, forgiving,full of compassion and is not affected by the imperfections of his/her creation.

    if you want to believe in a God of Vengeance sending people to hell for eternity because of their imperfections failed to follow his "commandments" then so be it.

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    Gnosticism run counter to core Christian belief that I know, but what does Gnosticism really offers to those who believes in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Gnosticism run counter to core Christian belief that I know, but what does Gnosticism really offers to those who believes in it?

    Which Christian core beliefs? I believe you already know that even among different Christian denominations/Sects, they counter each other's core beliefs.

    Iglesia ni Cristo's concept of Jesus against those Christian groups that believe Jesus is God. The "Sola scriptura" of the protestants against "scripture/apocrypha and traditions" of the Roman Catholics. Evangelicals' idea of "saved only by Grace" against believers of "works plus grace" themselves are Christians.


    Gnosticism offers the students knowledge of the Divine based on experience not on theology and other ecclesiastical circus(no pun intended).
    Last edited by Malic; 11-18-2009 at 11:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Which Christian core beliefs? I believe you already know that even among different Christian denominations/Sects, they counter each other's core beliefs.

    Iglesia ni Cristo's concept of Jesus against those Christian groups that believe Jesus is God. The "Sola scriptura" of the protestants against "scripture/apocrypha and traditions" of the Roman Catholics. Evangelicals' idea of "saved only by Grace" against believers of "works plus grace" themselves are Christians.


    Gnosticism offers the students knowledge of the Divine based on experience not on theology and other ecclesiastical circus(no pun intended).
    Gnosticism void Jesus' death on the cross as atonement of all sins of mankind- no salvation.

    Knowledge of the Divine not from theology but from self-claimed people with 'gnosis' I guess...pareho lang na Malic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Gnosticism void Jesus' death on the cross as atonement of all sins of mankind- no salvation.

    Knowledge of the Divine not from theology but from self-claimed people with 'gnosis' I guess...pareho lang na Malic.

    no, no, no, you got it all wrong. There is still salvation but it is achieved through gnosis. From the Gnostic's point of view sin came because of ignorance. If that's the case, to cure sin ignorance must be eradicated. Adam and Eve have sinned as a result of ignorance.

    Avatars like:Krisna,Buddha, Jesus were great teachers of gnosis. Their knowledge of gnosis were acquired by their disciples and it is handed down from one generation to another. In recent time, faithful individuals have attained gnosis for following the esoteric path carved by those great teachers of Light.
    Last edited by Malic; 11-18-2009 at 05:33 PM.

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    ^lisod ra ba na sabton from a fundamental christian viewpoint, malic. existanz need to have a paradigm shift para ma gets ni niya......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Gnosticism offers the students knowledge of the Divine based on experience not on theology and other ecclesiastical circus(no pun intended).
    yes. just 'i-feel-like-good-this-day-so-good-i-feel-so-high-this-is-heaven-i-see-God-kinda experience' what a feelin! (no pun intended)

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    looks like someone has already mutated....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    yes. just 'i-feel-like-good-this-day-so-good-i-feel-so-high-this-is-heaven-i-see-God-kinda experience' what a feelin! (no pun intended)
    no,no,no...that's not it. It transcends emotions.
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    Seek not abroad,turn back into thyself,for in the inner man dwells the Truth.-St. Augustine
    Last edited by Malic; 11-19-2009 at 05:24 AM.

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