Merged: Paco Larrañaga

[FK]

---

if they thought that the judge was manipulated from the start.
pwede man tingali filan og kaso ang judge or gipa-ilisan nila for the basis nga bias ang judge.

that's why naka ingon ko nga ang abogado moy sayop.

[LytSlpr]

if they thought that the judge was manipulated from the start.
pwede man tingali filan og kaso ang judge or gipa-ilisan nila for the basis nga bias ang judge.

that's why naka ingon ko nga ang abogado moy sayop.

yup, but that was dismissed as well. no grounds daw for inhibition. ocampo did everything so that he will not be inhibited from the case probably he or a loved one will be dead if he did [inhibit himself]. but he was killed anyway.

IMO, this is the most orchestrated case after the Marcos regime.

[FK]

now... what would be the motives in framing Paco?

[LytSlpr]

for that one, read the link above. BTW, we know all the people involved here from the family of the prosecution and the defense, almost all the lawyers and the judge except for Rusia.

I pity the Chiongs. We have a common close affiliation but I have to say that Paco did not do it. He was a victim of bad publicity and circumstance.

If this was a frame up, all I can say that the people who are behind this had to blame some people. Their mistake was they did not do their research. They blamed an entire "barkada" and not specific personalities. BTW, only Paco, Josman & Rowen knew each other. The Uy brothers & drivers did not know each other or Paco's group or vice versa. Since Paco was always here most of the time and his group was constantly involved in bar brawls they probably did not think he was studying in Manila,

If this was not a frame up, this is a clear tragic case of mistaken identity.

Judge Ocampo cannot release Paco alone during the trial despite his witnesses and evidences because it will weaken the entire case & will be a precedent or basis for the other accused and he could not allow that to happen because of the pressure on his shoulders.

While our family pity the grieving Chiongs we also pity the distraught Larannaga's, the family of the wrongfully accused because we also know them. We are not taking sides here, we are for justice.

[omar50071]

he was murdered because he knew something that everybody should not know and cannot reverse his decision anymore or say something when he will die a natural death. didn't it suprise you that everytime the defense presented something ocampo snubs it outrightly almost without hearing it? he was scared and was manipulated, which caused his death.

if he really thinks that Paco was guilty, then he should have given them death instead of mere life imprisonment. he was torn by his conscience and from the people who manipulated him.

here's a thing, would you believe that Ocampo committed suicide? If you guys do then I believe that the sky is black.

So your trying to implicate that Judge Ocampo was corrupt, and eventually terminated for his knowledge about the case?
If that's the case then the mastermind must have been much more powerful than the Osmena's or perhaps the Cojuangco's, Marcose's, Ecleo's...coz their influence have reached the SC's decision. Then maybe the next person to be terminated would be the SC?

[LytSlpr]

So your trying to implicate that Judge Ocampo was corrupt, and eventually terminated for his knowledge about the case?
If that's the case then the mastermind must have been much more powerful than the Osmena's or perhaps the Cojuangco's, Marcose's, Ecleo's...coz their influence have reached the SC's decision.

I wouldn't put it that way. He was manipulated by very influential people.

& yes in a sense they could be more powerful. they are at the right place at the right time. let's just say this was already fixed at the lower courts RTC & CA. as i have said purposedly misrepresented.

try to read the sample case i cited above about the Lahug Airport. a good number of those orginal lot owners won in the RTC & CA but lost in SC. doesn't that clearly isolate the corruption of the SC?

for one second, try to accept that Paco is really innocent. try to make a theory if it was not for mistaken identity then try to think why they where framed. try to look at or study the case at a different perspective or angle.

[FK]

If you believe that he was a victim of frame up... you should look for the real criminals and also the people that framed him up.

Dili lang ingon nga gi frame up... kay for sure it will just be considered as an alibi

[LytSlpr]

If you believe that he was a victim of frame up... you should look for the real criminals and also the people that framed him up.

Dili lang ingon nga gi frame up... kay for sure it will just be considered as an alibi

unfortunately you are correct. but sadly in our country if somebody already took the blame, we no longer bother. unlike the US justice system. that is the crusade Mr. Gallego is doing right now. a very steep and hard one, if i may say.

[omar50071]

If you believe that he was a victim of frame up... you should look for the real criminals and also the people that framed him up.

Dili lang ingon nga gi frame up... kay for sure it will just be considered as an alibi

FK is right, ang burden of truth kay naa na sa mga Laranaga, wala na sa mga Chiong, the Larañaga's should not just be pointing fingers on somebody, and dili sad ni madala sa pakilo-oy para dili ma convict. They should have used their wide source of resources to help investigate this case, kay sayon ra kaayo pag ingon nga dili ako, katong tawo nga ni dagan...my point is gukora ang tawo nga imo gi tudlo nga tinoud nga nakasala para malimpyohan ka sa ila gi sumbong kanimo. And I dont think the Lim's are as powerfull than the Osmena's.

[LytSlpr]

i agree, but they don't need to find the real perpetrators so to speak. all they need to do is present a strong new evidence for the re-opening of the case to prove their innoncence that's all.

power & influence are 2 different things, it depends which standpoint you are in. don't forget that it is public knowledge that they were providing for the gas & allowances of the police in cebu city which was even a cause of controversy before. why a private entity is doing such thing.

e.g. MILF leader & President of R.P. The latter is more powerful but the former is more influential, IMO.

why were the evidences in waterfront mactan tampered? the ones who were so surprisingly very quick to respond was the lapu² police and i believe only 2 officers at that at an Erap/cronie owned hotel. the video also had a "cut" and the room at a "blind spot" of the corridor creating a theory that the room was specifically selected. Lapu² City Police are mostly incompetent police men and are relatively easier to bribe. they are provincial police, most of which especially the old timers did not graduate criminology & a good number i personally know did not even graduate high school. pinalit ang diploma. THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO CONTAMINATE THE EVIDENCE kung sa CSI pa. Gi tuyo man to nila & what did they get? just a mere suspension for such a high profile case.

Isn't it ironic that only 2 policemen were initially the first to respond and only a few or even nobody from the hotel personnel entered the room/crime scene involving a known personality? who can vouch for those police? If Ocampo indeed lived a double-life as party going animal at almost the twilight of his years with outstanding record to boot with prosties, why at a 5 star hotel with a lot of people? unless he was "slipped" into the hotel purposely to create a taillored story.

The obvious murder of Ocampo was never really further investigated. That could have surely created angles or leads in the Chiong case.

That's our justice system. In the US tampering of evidence is a serious offense which can cause the officer his job & even be prosecuted.

the larranaga's are not going for mercy tactic if ever it is one. what they are doing is stirring up the local media, religious, NGO's and other local and foreign sectors of the injustice that has been done to them in our country. they are more than aware that asking for mercy won't set Paco free.