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    Quote Originally Posted by akimz View Post
    kng alas dose ang Agnostic man ala una ang Atheism

    so ang Agnostic Atheism kay alas dose medya 12:30

    Gi gutom lang ka akimz.. 12 30 nya ala pa ka kaon.. kaon na kay ma pasmo ka...

  2. #22
    @handsoff

    hehe!! i never mentioned regnauld's name in my last post..cguro regnauld fits the description but im not going to say or judge nga mao najd na ang style sa pamisar niya...pero i don't deny nga sometimes ingon ana si regnauld mudala ug istorya..pero even that judgement is purely subjective sa akoa..so still it's debatable kai ang akong conclusion based rman pd sa akoang nabantayan which is subject for scrutiny pa pd..unless ato ipa analyze si regnauld ug usa ka expert or whatever to come up with an accurate generalization sa style sa iyang paminsar....in short...usahay mu fit usahay dli..that's why i never gave him special mention or whoever man..kai bacn ako pd diay ang naai problema kai wla ako na misinterpret si regnauld..

    @regnauld

    kadto akoang post ganina reg..is just my opinion..and while im at it..i was trying to back it up nga nganong nka come up ko ato na conclusion...ikaw usahay gd..mu andar man gd na imong pagka bookish..wla man ta nag sturya kng kinsa ang naai sakto nga description of what an agnostic should be, a believer should be or an atheist should be..now daginoton pa jd na nmo si munzter and his description sa atheism..kadto reg ako gsulti are all from my head wla ko niingon nga sakto ko or mao na to ang dapat sundun sa tanan...pero mao to akong support sa akoang opinion nga wlai atheist-agnostic..it all should be black and white..KAI....(insert my explanation) and by stating my reasons nganong dapat agnostic rag atheist is purely my own reasons my own understanding...now if chad tukes doesn't buy my explanation then okay rapd nko..ikaw ba!..nakigsturya ra gani ko ni chad tukes..imoha na dayon tang pangutan-on kng kinsai sakto namo ni munzter...reg i think you should keep off the books and references and instead try to make your own book that reflects your OWN opinions rather than citing every other religious or spiritual person on earth...i think naa na cla to make way for other people to expound or to continue on their ideas and that is you my friend..well wla lang jd cguro ko kasabot sa imohang own personal views.

    @chad tukes

    well imoha sad na..pero mura man gd ug walai sure asa ka ni stand kai your both standing on two territories one foot is on the other territory..it's like having an affair or fling2x sa laing chix pero naa nagd kai official gf..i don't agree jd...it think it should be clear no gray areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    @handsoff

    hehe!! i never mentioned regnauld's name in my last post..cguro regnauld fits the description but im not going to say or judge nga mao najd na ang style sa pamisar niya...pero i don't deny nga sometimes ingon ana si regnauld mudala ug istorya..pero even that judgement is purely subjective sa akoa..so still it's debatable kai ang akong conclusion based rman pd sa akoang nabantayan which is subject for scrutiny pa pd..unless ato ipa analyze si regnauld ug usa ka expert or whatever to come up with an accurate generalization sa style sa iyang paminsar....in short...usahay mu fit usahay dli..that's why i never gave him special mention or whoever man..kai bacn ako pd diay ang naai problema kai wla ako na misinterpret si regnauld..

    @regnauld

    kadto akoang post ganina reg..is just my opinion..and while im at it..i was trying to back it up nga nganong nka come up ko ato na conclusion...ikaw usahay gd..mu andar man gd na imong pagka bookish..wla man ta nag sturya kng kinsa ang naai sakto nga description of what an agnostic should be, a believer should be or an atheist should be..now daginoton pa jd na nmo si munzter and his description sa atheism..kadto reg ako gsulti are all from my head wla ko niingon nga sakto ko or mao na to ang dapat sundun sa tanan...pero mao to akong support sa akoang opinion nga wlai atheist-agnostic..it all should be black and white..KAI....(insert my explanation) and by stating my reasons nganong dapat agnostic rag atheist is purely my own reasons my own understanding...now if chad tukes doesn't buy my explanation then okay rapd nko..ikaw ba!..nakigsturya ra gani ko ni chad tukes..imoha na dayon tang pangutan-on kng kinsai sakto namo ni munzter...reg i think you should keep off the books and references and instead try to make your own book that reflects your OWN opinions rather than citing every other religious or spiritual person on earth...i think naa na cla to make way for other people to expound or to continue on their ideas and that is you my friend..well wla lang jd cguro ko kasabot sa imohang own personal views.

    @chad tukes

    well imoha sad na..pero mura man gd ug walai sure asa ka ni stand kai your both standing on two territories one foot is on the other territory..it's like having an affair or fling2x sa laing chix pero naa nagd kai official gf..i don't agree jd...it think it should be clear no gray areas.
    I was just asking my friend and don't take it personally! Im just curious like Leonardo da Vinci!

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    I think we only have a clash of terms here. It's probably best to define what they (atheism, agnosticism or a believer) are so we have a common ground as to whether or not one can be called an atheist or agnostic, etc.

    I guess the thread title is already problematic. Because it presupposes a Believer to be one who believes in (a) god. To be a believer is not exclusive only to questions of faith.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I was just asking my friend and don't take it personally! Im just curious like Leonardo da Vinci!
    aw okay...hehehe!! abi nkog unsa na...hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    I think we only have a clash of terms here. It's probably best to define what they (atheism, agnosticism or a believer) are so we have a common ground as to whether or not one can be called an atheist or agnostic, etc.

    I guess the thread title is already problematic. Because it presupposes a Believer to be one who believes in (a) god. To be a believer is not exclusive only to questions of faith.
    usahay naa man pd instances like this..pangutan-on nato..."What color do you like? Brown or red?"

    tubag...


    OR....

    pwede brownish red nlang?...

    hehe!


    hehehe!!

  7. #27
    Atheist, Theist or Agnostic?

    ..the hell.. it doesn't matter..

    What matters is that we don't expense others prerogative for our own happiness and knowledge..
    we always differ in our beliefs and there's nothing we can do about it coz it's their beliefs..

    .. and I don't have any problems to any people having other beliefs other than mines..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikxz unÖ View Post
    Atheist, Theist or Agnostic?

    ..the hell.. it doesn't matter..

    What matters is that we don't expense others prerogative for our own happiness and knowledge..
    we always differ in our beliefs and there's nothing we can do about it coz it's their beliefs..

    .. and I don't have any problems to any people having other beliefs other than mines..
    good for you and same goes here pd..pero unfortunately we are still a minority mas na outnumbered ta sa mga tao nga dako ghapon ug discrimination for people nga wla nituo sa ilahang religion

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    good for you and same goes here pd..pero unfortunately we are still a minority mas na outnumbered ta sa mga tao nga dako ghapon ug discrimination for people nga wla nituo sa ilahang religion
    I don't that's the case sir. Religion is just an organization run by people who tried to be saint. Being one of them makes me realize how critical to discriminate personal beliefs. No one ever said to impose what you believe to others... things got outta hand when people are too self-righteous when it comes to their own religion.

    I am a catholic and I believe in God... if they think that my belief is different from them... I don't really mind what they think because they are not the ones who is going to save my own soul but me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    I don't that's the case sir. Religion is just an organization run by people who tried to be saint. Being one of them makes me realize how critical to discriminate personal beliefs. No one ever said to impose what you believe to others... things got outta hand when people are too self-righteous when it comes to their own religion.

    I am a catholic and I believe in God... if they think that my belief is different from them... I don't really mind what they think because they are not the ones who is going to save my own soul but me.
    Yes I agree you are soley responsible for your soul and no one else!

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