Frankly speaking, the church deserves to be whacked again.
Kaklaro anang fiction!
I read the book entitled "Behind the Da Vinci Code". Although the said gave me the idea all about the Da Vinci Code, did I lose my faith on Catholicism?
Frankly speaking, the church deserves to be whacked again.
Kaklaro anang fiction!
I read the book entitled "Behind the Da Vinci Code". Although the said gave me the idea all about the Da Vinci Code, did I lose my faith on Catholicism?
Why people would insist that the book is fiction? To disarm into speaking out against the novel?Originally Posted by Viktor
What is ficitional about the book is how the story is presented. Â*But as to the contents it is based on fact. Â*Priory of Zion, mary magdalene as wife Christ, Christ as not God, these things are the belief of the Gnostics in real life and for a thousand of years. Â*Gi fit in lang sa istorya. Â*
In fact Dan Brown was even charged for plagiarism for copying the book, "Holy Blood, Holy Grail." Â* To make it palatable to wider audience Dan Brown made it a thriller. Â*That thriller was the only fiction in it.
The contents is where the lies and blasphemies and heresies are embedded. That is what we Catholics are objecting.
*chuckle* Then you admitted it to yourself. The contents are all true and based on facts. From your own words, you uttered it. No wonder your defensiveness is very apparent.Originally Posted by mosimos
True for the Gnostics.
Blasphemy and heresy for us Catholics.![]()
It's not like that at all. It's a natural move for the Church. Me myself, I can't watch the movie. I've read the book and I'd had nightmare about it for months!!! You can't imagine dreaming vividly of Jesus having *** with Mary Magdalene, I was crying everytime I woke up. I shouldn't have read the book in the first place.
But still it's just a movie. But movies can influence. I had friends who read the da vinci code and they say now that it doesn't matter whether Jesus had *** with Mary basta Jesus ghapon sya. I mean, years and years of belief gone to the garbage bin?
It's not only Catholics, other Christian congregations and churches don't encourage their members to watch the movie or even read the book.
It's just a natural thing for the Church to condemn this. After all it is their very core teachings and of the bible that is being attacked.
if you google "da vinci code, classification" note the books classification: FICTION > GENRE FICTION > ADVENTURE / THRILLER.
and if you notice on the first few pages, titles such as: "The Da Vinci Code to be banned in Philippines?","Manila Standard Today -- Da Vinci disturbances -- april19_2006", "Regulators Under Pressure To Ban The Da Vinci Code In Philippines". there's no other country in the first 10 result pages that made a big deal out of it but our own. if you're too lazy to do your research just click here.
use your head people.. don't be another statistic.. somebody here is just fooling you around.. Dan Brown wannabe ehh??
it just goes to show that the Philippines as a whole can't decipher fact from fiction. :mrgreen:
Shut Up! Let your GAME do the talking!
if it is fiction, ngano man nga mahadlok man ang mga priest ani? if this is not a threat, why we have to react?
^^ there are so many people who can't distinguish what is fiction and what is a fact.Â* mao na naka kuyaw.
Case in point lang ha.. Jose Rizal wrote two FICTION novels.. Noli Me Tangere (Social Cancer--> which is the accepted english translated title BTW) and El Filibusterismo (The Filibuster?).. Pero what was the action of the Spanish invaders? They attacked both the book and Jose Rizal.
Let's take a newer (but still older book), The Animal Farm which is OBVIOUSLY FICTION. It was about a revolution just written like a fable. It got BANNED in a dozen countries.
Anyway, here's another. This one's a movie. The Last Temptation of Christ by Martin Scorcese, possibly the most controversial film about Christ ever made (as controversial as The Passion by mel Gibson). It did not claim to be fact actually, the author of the screenplay even admitted he fictitionalized some parts and the story which its based is actually considered fiction by most authors (though some say he was pressured by the Church to do so), and many shops in the states put it in HISTORICAL FICTION category. Pero it had an impact that got it banned in many countries.
See? Fact or fiction books do have an impact like no other. If it attacks some idea, some belief, then it's natural for proponents of that idea and belief to return fire.
This is probably the opinions of most of the other posters here, citing other examples.
Carl Olson and Sandra Miesel don't like hoaxes, especially when it comes to the faith. Olson is the former editor of Envoy magazine, and Miesel is an expert on the Church in the medieval era. The two teamed up to write The Da Vinci Hoax, which Chicago's Cardinal Francis George describes as the "definitive debunking" of Dan Brown's best seller The Da Vinci Code. Register correspondent Sabrina Ferrisi spoke to the authors.
On the issue that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene?
This legend all began with a crooked priest in France in the 1890s. This priest made money by selling masses. He renovated his church and built an expensive house. Eventually, his bishop made him quit as a priest. The village where he lived, however, wanted the house made into a tourist attraction. So in the 1950’s, a restaurant owner said a secret parchment and Templar treasures had been found in or near the church. Plantard created this fake parchment. He had been a devout Catholic but went on to become a conman. The parchment supposedly supported the idea of a secret bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene
On the issue that Constantine invented Jesus’ divinity and that no one ever believed this beforehand, not even Jesus’ followers.
This is the biggest lie in the book. It goes directly to the heart of Christianity. … If no one believed Jesus was divine, then why were Christians persecuted? Why were they willing to go to their deaths? "Jesus' divinity is in the writings of all four Gospels, the writings of St Paul and all the early Church Fathers in the first three centuries. In our book, we quote 12 Church Fathers — these were early theologians whose writings the Catholic and Orthodox Church look to as authoritative guides.
On the Priory of sion and Brown claims that it is an ancient organization charged with protecting the tomb of Mary Magdalene.
There never was a Priory of Sion organization that spanned a thousand years. In 1956, Pierre Plantard formed the Priory of Sion in France. The group's interest was in mystical and esoteric doctrines. He eventually built a myth of himself as the descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Then a supposed member of the priory committed suicide in 1992. Plantard was brought to testify in court, and under oath, he said he had made everything up. He died in 2000. Brown is a very deceptive writer. In fact, I can hardly find a single fact that is true in his book.
Brown says Leonardo Da Vinci mocked the Church.
Everything Brown tells you about Leonardo Da Vinci is wrong. Maybe he was a homosexual, but he was not flamboyant. In fact, he was quiet and reserved. In the Last Supper painting, Da Vinci is illustrating St. John's Gospel. Mary Magdalene is not the person next to Jesus [as Brown asserts]. It is St. John, who is always depicted as young and effeminate. There is no evidence that Da Vinci hated the Catholic Church. He died a believing Catholic. His last will specifically requests a Catholic funeral.
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