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[reachingout]

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try lang stacy_gurl ZenZuu.com | Make Friends. Make Money. Make Sense.

[BertR]

for those people nga interested to sign up, please mas maayo anhi mo sign up ni reachingout, para daghan pud iya downline: ZenZuu.com | Make Friends. Make Money. Make Sense..
pwede pud sa akoa. hehe..

reachingout, i hope everything's clear with you, at least majority of the issues on how zenzuu works.
if you do have questions, try to ask me lang.

stacy_gurl: as of now wala pa gyud maka sulti nga nakadawat silag money from zenzuu coz it's a newly-launched program last august. but try lang coz everything in zenzuu is free. plus you can do it on your own time. if you're hardworking enough, it will pay off big. also later, if you can already establish a big downline, you won't have to work hard anymore.

and of course, you can always back out if you don't like.


anyways, big news for zenzuu. initially, during the big call with the owner sometime within the beginning of this month, it was announced that the first payment will be moved from oct. 15 to nov. 15. the owner has noticed that a lot of users don't have the required 10 active reps to gain the matching bonus (meaning, you will earn what each of your downline earns from 1st to 19th level deep). so he changed it to at least 5 ACTIVE USERS so more people can earn more. Thus, it required a new programming for the website so it was moved a month later.

however, just recently, the owner has announced that he will spend $5000 from his own pocket for the first payment on OCT. 15 to make sure that the accounting and security module works properly before the first official payment on NOV. 15.

the box to check for the terms and conditions has also appeared. but for people outside of the US, we are still not advised to check it kay ang TIN (which is SS number sa ilaha) still does not work for non-US.

plus there's already the application form for the debit card. but only when you earn at least 20 dollars will they send it to you.

so for those, interested, why don't you sign up. but if not, you can wait for oct. 15 and we'll tell you if the program really works and that we really received our compensation.

[ayzie]

really? hmm.. nahan ko mo try ani..

sign up na!!!! ZenZuu.com | Make Friends. Make Money. Make Sense.

[johnbond007]

BertR, since this has just launched so recently and no one has tried getting his/her own share yet, are the likes of this site been tested already ba? Like, has someone experienced money making in this kind of business? By the way, which is needed, SSS number or the TIN?

[omad]

I'm not saying that this site is legit or not.

why don't we get some facts first from existing social networking sites like say how many users does myspace have? what's their current monthly advertising revenue? so based on that we will know how much money Zen Zuu would be able to realistically give to their active members.

myspace:

270,000,000 users Social Media Marketing - Minneapolis - Web Design, SEO - Internet Communications - AllanWoodstrom.com

$210,000,000 Q3 ad revenue (roughly $70,000,000 per month)News Corp: Selling Ads For MySpace Is Hard Work!


so if we apply those numbers to Zen Zuu:

$70,000,000 X 80% = $56,000,000 that Zen Zuu is sharing to all its users (270M)

so: $56,000,000 / 270,000,000 = .207 of a dollar (not even a quarter)

even if we use just 50% of the total active users which is 135,000,000.

$56,000,000 / 135,000,000 = .418 of a dollar



now tell me, where does the $50 that Joe Risk is saying in those videos/audios come from?


of course, even if Zen Zuu will truly give out 80% of the average $70M monthly ad revenue to all its active users, they (Zen Zuu) would still have their share of $14M (20%) safely deposited in the bank.

thanks to all those who log-in 30 times a month.

as for me, thanks, but no thanks....

[omad]

Initial payment for the debit card is 20 dollars. So only when you can earn at least 20 dollars from ZenZuu will they be able to send you your debit card which will already contain 15 dollars. Therefore, the processing fee for the card alone and the shipment only cost 5 dollars.

ohh and I almost left out the most important part of it all...

THE $20 INITIAL PAYMENT for the debit card.

if we want to use my computation, 50 cents per month average share from ad revenue, so it will take more than 3 years (more than that if the user number doubles and ad revenue share remains constant) to get to the $20 earnings from them.

imagine how much money Zen Zuu gets if let's say 10,000,000 users pay the $20 debit card


IF, hypothetically, Zen Zuu closes shop after 6 months with 10,000,000 members paying $20 each, without receiving anything....


how fun would that be?

I bet it's too much fun for Zen Zuu...


*the above statements are my analysis and mine alone. but think about it.

[BertR]

okay. let me clear this thing up.
the debit card will already contain 15 dollars. therefore, the actual payment for the creation of the card and the delivery of it straight to your home only cost 5 dollars. i don't think zenzuu will have some share of that 5 dollars.

also, you might have missed the actual calculation of monthly earnings.

yes, the ad revenue shares per month maybe divided among the users but without the matching bonus, you only get 5% of that. the remaining percentages are actually sprinkled over the matching bonus.

so let's take an example.

let's say zenzuu's income for a particular month was 1,000,000 (and this is no exaggeration considering the lucrative amount of money poured in by advertising). So 80% of that is 800,000. ZenZuu is now about 160,000-180,000 members. Let's just say 200,000.

So your revenue share for that particular month would be:
80% revenue income divided by the total users = X:
So, 800,000 / 200,000 = 4

then multiply X by 5%
4 X 0.05 = 0.2

multiply X with Y as the number of active reps you have in your first level downline
let's say you had 100 active reps in first level:
0.2x100 = 20

Plus, if you had at least 5 ACTIVE REPS on your first level, you get to match each of your downline's income from 1st to 19th level. So let's just say you had 500 members from 1st to 19th level (this is including the 100 members you had in your first level). And let's assume they earn less than you did (less than 20 for that matter). Let's say 10 dollars each.

So your matching bonus would be:
500 x 10 = 5000 dollars.

Thus, your total earnings for the particular month is: 5,000 + 20 = 5,020 dollars

And you know that even if you did nothing at this point now that you have 500 downline members, your downline will still grow through time. So, even if now you have a little number of downline members, you know later on you will reach 500 or more. You might be earning less now because, say, you only had 100 total downline members but you know it will grow.

And the thing is you don't pay to be part of this.

The owner even had to re-structure the website to accommodate the rule of having AT LEAST 5 ACTIVE REPS to qualify for the matching bonus. This was initially set at 10 ACTIVE REPS. He saw that there were more people who did not reach the 10. Thus, the first payment was moved from Oct. 15 to Nov. 15.

However to make sure the accounting and securities section really work fine, the owner is spending his own 5,000 dollars for Oct. 15 payment.

So, it's up to you. I have been to many of their calls and I believe TOMMY VU, the owner of ZenZuu, when he says that he is doing this to help many people. He envisions ZenZuu to be a life-changing program in the years to come. ZenZuu actually means calmness (Zen) in the midst of a storm (Zuu). Or as Joe Risk puts it "earning income in the midst of recession."

[BertR]

ZenZuu didn't say they will not get a share. Of course, they will get 20%. But 80% is huge, man.
And think of all the people who have MySpace or Friendster, or any other social networking sites.
Tell me, how many of their millions of users have had a share of the millions of revenues?
Even Yuwie, only shares like nil to all its users.

This is just like another social networking site and it doesn't force anyone to sign up. Nobody's forcing anyone to sign up for MySpace or Friendster. And look at where it got the owners! Here in ZenZuu, there is a prospect of earning big. So, go figure!

[BertR]

BertR, since this has just launched so recently and no one has tried getting his/her own share yet, are the likes of this site been tested already ba? Like, has someone experienced money making in this kind of business? By the way, which is needed, SSS number or the TIN?

there have been sites that offer the same thing. although they don't pay as big as ZenZuu. Yuwie is a good example and it's true (as far as what I've come across. coz i did sign up for Yuwie but it just doesn't pay much so I didn't pursue).

Also, we will know this Oct. 15 if the system works. and even if we get small amount lang (5,000) at least we know if the revenue system is on tip-top shape. And I will try to ask my uplines in the USA who actually work with Tommy Vu, the owner.

also, TIN diay ang needed for us Filipinos. thanks!

[BertR]

and btw, thanks omad for your analysis. and you sure didn't harm anything by saying you won't sign up.
again, NOBODY'S FORCING ANYONE TO SIGN UP. Let me just make that clear again.
thanks!