Loose Change 2nd Edition - 9/11 Conspiracy Documentary

[taninf]

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^ the U.S. can live on w/ all the intrigues in the world. Instead of Analyzing & Harping every conspircay theories out there, why dont you help your Policy Makers in your Philippine Government prosper. Why dont you Run for Office & make a difference! Bring back the Glory of the Philippines.

it seems like lots of ppol donot know how politics in the philippines works.

come on pipol of the philippines!!

open your mind!! don't be too close minded!! realize that all of you here are just being fed with all lies and crap!! you think the U.S government cannot do it on its own people?!

well think again!!

that BUSH administration is nothing but pure non-sense!! why do they have to send troops in IRAQ?? WMD?? that's complete B*LL***T!! now what?? IT'S A WIN OR LOSE SITUATION Bush is facing right there people!! you guys smell another VIETNAM?? i betcha would.

what about 9/11?? did you think the islam terrorists did it?? AMERICA IS A WORLD POWER PEOPLE. why didn't they managed to stop such a plan??

weedmeister im with you dude. you pipol try to answer the questions that weedmeister have thrown AND IF YOU CAN ANSWER ALL OF THOSE.. TRUST ME, I'D BE SWITCHING SIDES. :mrgreen:

i agree with chad_tukes. and im more curious now of the details of what really happened. please post more inputs.

[weedmeister2]

@ Spec-V: Well, with an illegitimate POTUS creating a catastrophe like 9/11 just so he can fling americans all the way to baghdad to kill and die like rats, people will get fidgety... especially when Iraq starts to turn into Vietnam...

@Vance: Say what...?

@Taninf: stay tuned, as Tolstoi and I plan to spread the truth throughout Istorya, one member at a time... heehehehe

[jugs_06]

^^ can i be one of you guys? hehehe

btaw, im in for the conspiracy theory on 9/11.. after watching loose change, im....... half-way there.. hehe.. believing-wise..

[weedmeister2]

@Jugs: Why, certainly... The more the merrier, as they say...


To the debunkers, instead of always just cornering us "Conspiracy Theorists" by saying that it's all a pile of BS, why don't you TRY PROVING WHAT YOU ARE DEFENDING...? Here's an initial list of questions that you believers should have no problem whatsoever in answering, as you so staunchly defend your position, that it seems that all is crystal clear to you guys:


1.) Where is YOUR proof that PNAC’s call for a ‘catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor’ was only an unbelievably astounding and timely coincidence rather than a statement that should have raised reasonable suspicion?

In the late 1990’s members of the Project for a New American Century wrote a treatise in which they foresaw a strategic “transformation” of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination that would require a huge increase in defense spending. “The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” The members of this group, known as PNAC, were appointed to many high level positions in the new Bush administration. Only months after they came to power, the United States experienced a new Pearl Harbor. That has never been publicized or explained as anything other than mere coincidence.



2.) Where is YOUR proof that Al Qaeda actually planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11?

In 4 years I have not seen a single bit of proof that Al Qaeda was involved in those events. I have seen some snap shots of Arab men at an airport. I was told a slew of things about these men. I was told that the passport of one of the alleged hijackers miraculously floated to the surface of the rubble, unscathed by the heat that had obliterated thousands (and swallowed the 8 indestructable black boxes). I was told way too much about these men for me to believe that the story was not prepared in advance. Two days was not sufficient time for that kind of information to be uncovered and declassified by our government. Not only did that reek of black ops, but to this day almost nothing of what we were told about he nineteen hijackers has been verified. The tape of Osama bin Laden shown by the government raised questions about the actual identity of the man in the film. As a matter of fact, I watched the so-called confession I with a person whose native is Arabic. He told me that the English translation was misleading. While he rejoiced at their success, nowhere in the tape did Osama admit involvement in the attacks!



3.) Where is YOUR proof that Dick Cheney was NOT conducting drills on 9/11 that paralyzed Air Force responses to the real attacks?

There is irrefutable evidence that Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service on the morning of 9/11, assuring the paralysis of Air Force and its ability to intercept the hijacked planes. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. In fact, Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11. When publicly asked about the exercises, that involved simulated attacks by hijacked planes against the WTC, Cheney refused to comment, claiming the information was classified.



4.) Where is YOUR proof that Tower 7 collapsed as a result of the attacks?

I have not seen even a single computer model explanation as to how or why Building 7 collapsed in the exact same manner as the two Towers that were hit by airplanes. As a matter of fact Building 7, which sustained no impact at all, was not mentioned in the Kean Commission report at all. The FEMA report of the collapse remains inconclusive, unable to offer a reasonable explanation for the collapse. Larry Silverstein, owner of the complex publicly claimed he gave permission for Tower 7 to be ‘pulled,’ a fire department term for demolished. Demolition of such a building would have required weeks, if not months of preparation. No explanation has ever been given for this baffling anomaly.




5.) Where is YOUR proof that ‘put’ orders placed on the two Airlines involved in the attacks were mere coincidence?

I have never seen the names of the people who placed those orders. I don’t know if their identities have been uncovered or if they have been questioned. I have not seen anyone vindicated of any foreknowledge of 9/11 after making investments that would only pay off if the specific airlines involved were to experience a drop in stock prices.




6.) Where is YOUR proof that Porter Goss knew nothing about $100,000 that was wired to Mohammed Atta?

I cannot fathom why the person who was sitting with Porter Goss (our current CIA Director) on the morning of 9/11, and who had wired Mohammed Atta $100,000 just prior to the event, was never investigated. This could be the smoking gun of smoking guns (if you believe that Atta was involved) that has been covered up from the start.




7.) Where is YOUR proof that Donald Rumsfeld did not organize an illegal military group that would “provoke terrorist attacks which would then require ‘"counter-attack" by the United States?

Here’s what I know: In the Los Angeles Times, military analyst William Arkin described a secret army set up by Donald Rumsfeld, similar to those run by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger and which Congress outlawed. This "super-intelligence support activity" was designed to bring together the "CIA and military covert action, information warfare, and deception". According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld, the new organization was known as the Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG. It was formed to provoke terrorist attacks which would then require "counter-attack" by the United States on countries "harboring the terrorists". Doesn’t that sound exactly like what happened on 9/11?


(from: http://tvnewslies.org )

[Streetcar]

I think the CIA knew about the plans of attack with 911 terrorist plot at the WTC in NY but its either they were not sure of some details, was too laxed or did not take heed of the information they have at hand and it was just too late to act and it boiled down to a matter of seconds/minutes. Not much time.

[weedmeister2]

@ Streetcar: the two most important things that you must watch out for:

1.) Who stands to gain the most in the 9/11 scenario?

2.) Where does the money trail lead?


Bin Laden?

Saddam?

Afghanistan?

Iraq?

Bush, George Jr.? :mrgreen:

Bush, George Sr.? :mrgreen:

Bush Scalawags? :mrgreen:

Carlyle? :mrgreen:

[slakker]

i agree with you guys, it is a proven fact that the U.S. is a big bully war monger. ganahan gyud na sila naa'y gubat...

[tolstoi]

here are the list of converts

Weedmeister
tolstoi
jugs_06
taninf
slakker

so far only few had found the light

the rest are still bounded by darkness



LOOSE CHANGE 2

[jugs_06]

@weed: nice one man.. and i could add one more to that:

why did the Bush administration focused more on Iraq instead of instilling force on Afghanistan right after the attacks?

I think the CIA knew about the plans of attack with 911 terrorist plot at the WTC in NY but its either they were not sure of some details, was too laxed or did not take heed of the information they have at hand and it was just too late to act and it boiled down to a matter of seconds/minutes. Not much time.

absolutely.. there's no reason why the CIA wouldn't acquire adequate information ahead of time about the said attacks.. the FBI and CIA has this boundary between departments, yes.. but each has its own right of sharing information when the other party needs it, and vice versa.. this is for the sake of the nation's safety and defense..

BTW, nahilom man ang mga debunkers.. hmmmmmmmmmm.... (?)

[cebufox]

hahaaayyyyy...kapoya!...puro conspiracy theories...