US economy going down? Will it recover? - THE US Financial Crisis.

[brad]

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batigol,
tol di lagi na mahorot siguro.
LISOD ning last 2 weeks sige man og evaporate atong portfolio.

dorothia
.50 cents nalang rite aid.
koyaw na ma bancrupt.
If your 55 years safetly nalang daan.
25 stock nalang 75 fix.

if 58 years wala na gyoy stock.
100 fix nalang
kay kong 60 yrs naka nya naay resicion, maghowat nasad kay 2 to 4years or something like that.
I hope i dont forget this when im old.





bai ezra,

The russian stock market is still closing their stock market.
koyawa ana nila sa.


i saw the bush speech with the dow balance in the lower right side.

friday ,i place 2 market sell order limit after the morning drop.


the trade went throught at 2:30 and 3:00.
today was a crazy ride up then down then up then down.

i have to unload
i have 20% left in the market.
i took out 80% .

I hope i dont miss anything.

company earnings report is coming up.
this is whats making me nervous.

ill be waiting to come in again.

bacause this market will come back up again.

Friday night, mag san miguel beer tayo.
cheers.
kalimti ang problema.

[EZRA]

BRAD: good thing that you went out bai .. things are gonna go crazy this following week with the quarterly reports (like you said) and the market response sa Lehman auction. Thrilling kaayo ni ron.
Might be a good idea to come in sa GOLD bai .. ninaog ang Gold gahapon - pero expected nga ang mga taw mo dagan sa Gold inig crash. Nipalit kog JAN puts sa GLD - ni kwarta na baya gamay pero mo punno ko rong lunes.

[ed168III]

i thnk d bail out is a big mistake, govt should not interfere d economy publicly, ila lng tang gsecreto, its similar like ur having bsnes with ur bro, ur winning, then ur parents interfere, sla nay nagbayad sa utang sa imong bro, murag ana ba, mawala ang value sa imong effort..

even God during world wars na hapit mahurot iyang kaliwat, mga jews ba, ddnt interfere... maybe he interfere us ones by sending jesus but it was done secretly stil jesus is a mystery.

kung dli sad mag bail out ang lain countries or mo support sa u.s or mobelieve, i think mo collapse jud ang u.s because they r trying to "doctor" their economy because of it mawala ang value sa ilang dollar. they can also help other countries by bailing them out pro kung dli mosugot, patay jud ni ilang economy.

they should have done d bail out secretly just like how god send jesus, secreto ba.

il call this "god theory" ingkaso matinood ni, il b an unsung father of future economy jud hehehe: jest:

[EZRA]

The Government had no choice but to get involved. Lisod man sab kaayo for them and the people to let these big financial institutions fail - too much is at stake. I think napiit lang gyud ang gobyerno and they just had to come in and help out. Ang problema lang, they got involved in the wrong way and they're not addressing the problem. All they've been doing so far is putting band-aids on these problems.

Dili sab angay i sekreto like what you're suggesting. You have to tell the taxpayers about where their money is going. If their money is going to these private instutions, they have the right to know. Another thing, you need to let the investors/market know that these institutions are getting help. At least the investors know that there is something going on, or else they'll just go and take their money out and leave the insitutions high and dry.

[ckice168]

although the crisis is hitting hardest in the USA we all have to remember that this is the USA your talking about. no matter what happens, this will all be good for the global economy in the end. this is check and balance happening. its been going to good to be true since the 2001 financial crisis, 9-11. what is happening is a weeding of the weaker institutions. as for the banking sector, the saying too big to fall is holding. banks like, citi, jp, ba, wellsf are simply too large to fall. anyone of these banks falling would cause too much trouble to clean up.

for sure in the coming weeks, we will be see the us gov buying shares of stock at preferred prices from these banks. in some cases, even taking over the banks. this is the easiest way to infuse capital to a bank. the fed is correct in this approach and the us gov might even walkaway richer after this...

in about 2 or 3 years, north america and western europe will come out more stronger after this crisis. lucky for asia that our banking and finance sector was hit by the 97 asian crisis. luckily in 97 it wasnt a global problem so the western world could bail us out. the crisis made asian institutions hesitant to invest heavily in CDS' and sub-prime investments... there should be a reason why they are called sub-prime. 97 taught our banks in asia to keep cash and always look at the underlying factors for investment. in other words, it moderated their greed and made them more wary of too good to be true investments.

consider ourselves lucky to be hit by the 1997 crisis. suppose it hit now who would bail out asia? 97 made us ready for today.

philippine stocks are down pretty bad but the market fundamentals are still good. if you've got cash, your king! better be on the lookout for bargain hunting if not now, very very soon. this is a once in a lifetime chance to get very rich on buying into the right investments.

[EZRA]

although the crisis is hitting hardest in the USA we all have to remember that this is the USA your talking about. no matter what happens, this will all be good for the global economy in the end. this is check and balance happening. its been going to good to be true since the 2001 financial crisis, 9-11. what is happening is a weeding of the weaker institutions. as for the banking sector, the saying too big to fall is holding. banks like, citi, jp, ba, wellsf are simply too large to fall. anyone of these banks falling would cause too much trouble to clean up.

Too large but they are falling... but then, even 2 years ago - who would think that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would fall? These 2 are GIANTS holding roughly half of the mortgages/loans of the US - about 5 Trillion Dollars worth. How about AIG .. the largest Insurance Company in the US, did you even expect it to fail? How about Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, Wachovia .... Have you been tracking the stock charts of these companies these past year? Did you see the decline?
Amongst the big boys in Wall Street.. what's left? JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. which recently became Bank Holding Companies and no longer Investment Banks. And - I think it was last Friday that I heard it over CNN or CNBC that MS and GS are about to get Nationalized.

NO ONE IS TOO BIG TO FALL!! Everyone can fall (and some of the big ones already did) .. no exceptions.

for sure in the coming weeks, we will be see the us gov buying shares of stock at preferred prices from these banks. in some cases, even taking over the banks. this is the easiest way to infuse capital to a bank. the fed is correct in this approach and the us gov might even walkaway richer after this...

Fed is correct? are you kidding me? They are printing out MONEY to obtain these "TOXIC ASSETS" - by printing bills backed by ABSOLUTELY NOTHING , it will cause HYPER INFLATION ..AND - how much are they gonna sell these assets to the dollar do you think they're gonna get? How much taxes do you think we are gonna be paying the following year just to cover these failed bailouts they did since Bear Stearns. Did you hear about the LEHMAN auction last Friday. The price was about 9 cents to a dollar. Imagine that.

Another thing - did all these bailouts regain the confidence of investors? NO! What happened? Why is the credit frozen? Why did LIBOR go up? Why did we have a 7-day market plunge right after the bill passed?

in about 2 or 3 years, north america and western europe will come out more stronger after this crisis. lucky for asia that our banking and finance sector was hit by the 97 asian crisis. luckily in 97 it wasnt a global problem so the western world could bail us out. the crisis made asian institutions hesitant to invest heavily in CDS' and sub-prime investments... there should be a reason why they are called sub-prime. 97 taught our banks in asia to keep cash and always look at the underlying factors for investment. in other words, it moderated their greed and made them more wary of too good to be true investments.

If the Government won't regulate the market properly, WALL STREET will keep on operating like how they did the past 4 years. Unregulated leverage - (The SEC removed broker-dealer leverage limits back in 2004) banks are operating at over 12:1 leverage!! .. no Balance Sheet Transparency.. CDS are over-the-counter transactions with no margin or capital supervision... THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED!! REGULATED!!! Too much greed in WALL STREET yet the Government isn't doing anything to quench it. As a matter of fact, they voted to add more fuel to the fire.
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[vienzel]

GO...Ezra, explain gyud pra ang mga taw diha di magdahum ug unsa ato kinabuhi dri ba!

@ckice168, dont just rely on wat u read or hear over the news...try also to listen sa mga taw naa dri ky kinabuhi ni namo na ang gi-storyahan tungod sa way ayo na mga plano sa gobyerno!

we are trying to open our minds and hearts now kung unsa amo mahimo as taxpayers sa mo kada-usa na panginabuhi dri. wa mi na mag DENIAL sa status gobyerno dri. we know it going to be a very,very bumpy ride and it will stay for a long time pa guro ni. but rest assured, na we respect ur opinion and ideas gihapon.

[EZRA]

It's good to keep people informed on what really is going on. Ang uban diha tingali nag huna huna ra nga "Uy, America bitaw na - daghan na silag kwarta" bisag sa tinuod, hubas na ang kwarta. Purdoy na ang Fed. Ambot lang sab kaha ug naa pay Gold sa Fort Knox. Nagkapuliki na ug keep up ang Social Security sa baby-boomers, ambot lang kaha ug naa pay mabilin inig retire sa atoang generation.

[gcc4426]

mao nay nkapait sa america, kwarta nlay padaganon...questionabli gyung stability nla. speculative kayo nang mga papel ug shares.

kung real economy ang hisgutan, d unta na ma.in-ana. dri sa pinas murag stable ang agri nato, ok sad ang production.

capitalismo ang gnikanan ani tanan...d sd ta kbasol ky kung d tungod ani d gyud ta kaabot sa atong naabtan kron.

@ diatabz

bot anang mcccain bai...nag damgo nga nag.mata. ubanan pas iyang bise...tsk. pakita lng gyud na silas ilang kataphaw. seryoso na cla anang duha?

adto nlng mong obama/biden kung tarong gyud mong pgka-taw.

[r0mm3L]

e baligya na kuno ang phil-am life hehe

para asa kaha? para bayad utang? hehe