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  1. #2851

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    wa gihapon mo magdaug diri? nyahaha
    daog na oi ari kos akong pagtoo siya adto syas iyang gitawag ug ambot unsay tawag niya ana...mahadlok ko ma ban pero diko mahadlok mahimong arabo nga bayot... puno ko sa OT mao di na ko msumpay

  2. #2852

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    @jovi

    bro, kani lang akong questions:

    1) Define daw unsa na ang imong impersonal God, does it have the will to create the universe/man?
    2) Kinsang tawhana nakaprove that Reincarnation is true....give us evidence.
    3) Kinsang tawhana nga naay knowledge of his past lives?
    4) If youre a child of the richest man sa kalibutan, but abusado ka and youre living in wickedness, in the next life kung moreincarnate ka, posible ba mahimo kang anak sa kinapobrehan sa africa?
    4) Kapila ka mag-utter sa Hindu Mantra nga AUM2 sa usa ka adlaw?
    5) Do you accept the origin of your belief is from babylonian mystery religions? Aside from bible verses, can you give us supporting evidence of your claims? para matrace jud nato ang roots sa imong belief...Lisud man gud sige ka claim sa bible but imong interpretation is layo ra kayo sa kamatuoran!
    6) Do you have any experience with the Holy Spirit kay sige man jud kag hisgot about fake Christians?
    7) Who are the true followers of Christ, those who believed in the personal God or sa imong Impersonal? give us your reference.

    Hope you can give answers....
    Thanks migo
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-09-2012 at 04:16 AM.

  3. #2853

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    "Today the theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis"
    -Pope John Paul II

  4. #2854

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovi

    bro, kani lang akong questions:

    1) Define daw unsa na ang imong impersonal God, does it have the will to create the universe/man?
    2) Kinsang tawhana nakaprove that Reincarnation is true....give us evidence.
    3) Kinsang tawhana nga naay knowledge of his past lives?
    4) If youre a child of the richest man sa kalibutan, but abusado ka and youre living in wickedness, in the next life kung moreincarnate ka, posible ba mahimo kang anak sa kinapobrehan sa africa?
    4) Kapila ka mag-utter sa Hindu Mantra nga AUM2 sa usa ka adlaw?
    5) Do you accept the origin of your belief is from babylonian mystery religions? Aside from bible verses, can you give us supporting evidence of your claims? para matrace jud nato ang roots sa imong belief...Lisud man gud sige ka claim sa bible but imong interpretation is layo ra kayo sa kamatuoran!
    6) Do you have any experience with the Holy Spirit kay sige man jud kag hisgot about fake Christians?
    7) Who are the true followers of Christ, those who believed in the personal God or sa imong Impersonal? give us your reference.

    Hope you can give answers....
    Thanks migo
    1. The only part in us that can clearly define God is the soul. Unless you are a soul, you cannot define God. And what the soul understood cannot be understood by the brain. what we could do only is a partial definition what God is that can be understood by the brain but that is not God yet. So, when you know that you are a soul, you will know God. I know God from my soul, but my brain cannot understand it. What i've known is first there is God then with all God's power and God's nature, all the galaxies were created including our Milky Way, then our Solar System, then our Earth, then the rocks, plants, animals, then kita humans. What we can only describe using our brain is that God is the Energy Source, and with that very very vast amount of energy, galaxies were created including our milky way which contains the solar system, our sun and our earth.

    2. Me, I have proven that reincarnation is true. I am a soul, and soul don't die, will just change from 1 form to another. we only change bodies, we can be male, female, dark, brown, white. but our soul is the same. just like water, changed from liquid, solid, gas form, but it remains water. Now this proof is not something to show to you and that's proof. this kind of proof is experiencial. you can only prove it yourself. it is like i'm telling you that seawater is salty bec i have tasted it. then you would ask for proof that it is. the only way to prove to you is you should taste it also, then you will know that what i'm telling is true. it is the same thing as reincarnation. not unless you'll know that you are a soul, you can prove that reincarnation is true. there is a big difference between me, indentified by my soul, and you, indentified by your body.

    3. there are many, that include Jesus, Buddha, Mother Teresa, my teacher, John the Baptist, King David, Zoroaster, Elijah, Elisha, teacher of my teacher and daghan pa, who had learn who they are in the pasts. There are some kids, that can play musical instruments, even at their very young age, they got it from their talents from their past lives. There are some who are excellent in this particular subject, it is bec they have full knowledge of it already in their past lives. there are some who are very knowledgeable about spirituality and everything beyond the physical world, they have full knowledge from their past lives. Now if you ask what's their proof. the only people that have fully understood and have full knowledge of reincarnation is the only people that can understand when they talk about their past lives. Others, will just laugh about it bec they don't understand.

    4a. possible, it depends on the karma of the person, good and bad combined

    4b. mantras are secret, why secret? bec you must be properly instructed about it so you can perform it properly, use it properly for your own benefits. if not fully instructed, and just mere personal knowledge you get from books and from the internet, instead of having benefits, it will be the opposite. I have so many mantras that were properly instructed to me, and all of them are very beneficial to me, in my spiritual life, as well as my financials, relationship, career and everything. and i have full understanding of our earthly life. i'm always happy. i'm full of bliss. And God is always with me. you don't fear anything including death and the unknown. Evil people will tremble.

    5. It is not a belief, rather knowledge. God can only be fully described/understood by our souls, the brain cannot understand God. What was created by the messengers of God are schools where teachers taught students about God using the soul. Moses, David, Elijah, John the Baptist, Muhammad, Zoroaster, Krishna, Buddha and all messengers of God created schools so humans can understand God, and can find a way to go back to God after being impure bec of free will. A school is never a religion, where it has teachers not preachers. You can only trace the roots of the school unless you are a student. i have already told you and even showed you universal teachings, all the messengers of God have the same teachings bec all the teachings came from 1 source: GOD. The bible contains teachings from God, but using your brain to intepret them, you will never understand, that's why you think of a personal God bec that's how it is understood by your brain. In the bible you will find the following:
    - be still and know that I am God
    - secret teachings that only given to the spiritually matured
    - Kingdom of God is within us
    - To love God with all of my heart, all of my soul, and all of my mind
    - let thine eye be single, and the body is full of light

    and naa pa daghan, which are also taught in our school, in the school of Buddha, and all the schools of messenger's of God

    6. I have a personal and direct experience of God and Christ and also the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the vibratory energy that is present in all of us, including the rocks, plants, trees, animals and everything in this earth

    7. The true followers of Christ are those that follow the true teachings of Jesus, to have Christ like him. those who understood what really Christ and God is, people who are striving or already known that they are souls, and awakening the Christ in them as taught by Jesus to help humanity alleviate from suffering, and make them go back to God. My reference, the true teachings that were taught to me on how to awaken Christ in me, and have done my assignment and found Christ in me. Jesus is only the physical body, that contains the Christ. What is the most important is not Jesus but the Christ in him. My reference is i have proven it myself, my direct experiences of Christ. It is very much understood why you have personal God and personal Christ, bec your way of thinking is limited to your brain. You are not a soul yet.

  5. #2855

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Mangamatay nlang ta tnan dli japon ni magdaug, kay kaning tanan usa ray nagbuhat ani mmmm unsa kaha?

  6. #2856

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    lahi lahi lagi mug Vocabulary, maypa inyu ipa post si Jovs sa iyang vocabulary nya meaning sa term para naa mu common ground.

  7. #2857

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    I strongly believe the BIBLE.

  8. #2858

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    SCIENCE!!!!

    There's a lot of evidence from the large variety fields in Zoology, Geology, Paleontology, and Anthropology that Evolution exists. Fossils alone are firm enough to be a good evidence that Evolution is right, not Creationism. I believe that there is a god but I don't believe the concept of Creationism in the Bible. If Creationism exists, can you explain the existence of dinosaurs? Clearly, there were no dinosaurs boarded on Noah's Ark.
    Just read this!!


    1. God made everything in six days. He did this, by the way, to set a pattern for mankind, which has become our seven day week (as described in Exodus 20:11). God worked for six days and rested for one, as a model for us. Furthermore, Bible scholars will tell you that the Hebrew word for day used in Genesis 1, can only mean an ordinary day in this context.
    2. We are told God created the first man and woman—Adam and Eve—on Day Six. Many facts about when their children and their children’s children were born are given in Genesis. These genealogies are recorded throughout the Old Testament, up until the time of Christ. They certainly were not chronologies lasting millions of years.

    As you add up all of the dates, and accepting that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to Earth almost 2000 years ago, we come to the conclusion that the creation of the Earth and animals (including the dinosaurs) occurred only thousands of years ago (perhaps only 6000!), not millions of years. Thus, if the Bible is right (and it is!), dinosaurs must have lived within the past thousands of years.


    Evolutionists claim that dinosaurs evolved over millions of years. They imagine that one kind of animal slowly changed over long periods of time to become a different kind of animal. For instance, they believe that amphibians changed into reptiles (including dinosaurs) by this gradual process. This would mean, of course, that there would have been millions of creatures during that time that would be “in between,” as amphibians evolved into reptiles. Evidence of these “transitional forms,” as they are called, should be abundant. However, many fossil experts admit that not one unquestionable transitional form between any group of creatures and another has been found anywhere. If dinosaurs evolved from amphibians, there should be, for example, fossil evidence of animals that are part dinosaur and part something else. However, there is no proof of this anywhere. In fact, if you go into any museum you will see fossils of dinosaurs that are 100% dinosaur, not something in between. There are no 25%, 50%, 75%, or even 99% dinosaurs—they are all 100% dinosaur!

    The Bible tells us that God created all of the land animals on the sixth day of creation. As dinosaurs were land animals, they must have been made on this day, alongside Adam and Eve, who were also created on Day Six (Genesis 1:24–31). If God designed and created dinosaurs, they would have been fully functional, designed to do what they were created for, and would have been 100% dinosaur. This fits exactly with the evidence from the fossil record.

    Evolutionists declare that no man ever lived alongside dinosaurs. The Bible, however, makes it plain that dinosaurs and people must have lived together. Actually, as we will soon see, there is a lot of evidence for this.

    The Bible teaches (in Genesis 1:29–30) that the original animals (and the first humans) were commanded to be vegetarian. There were no meat eaters in the original creation. Furthermore, there was no death. It was an unblemished world, with Adam and Eve and animals (including dinosaurs) living in perfect harmony, eating only plants.
    Sadly, it did not stay this way for very long. Adam rebelled against his Creator, bringing sin into the world (Genesis 3:1–7; Romans 5:12). Because of this rebellion, Adam, and thus all of his descendants (you and me), gave up the right to live with a Holy (sinless) and just God. God therefore judged sin with death.
    The Bible plainly teaches from Genesis to Revelation that there was no death of animals or humans before Adam sinned. (Consider just a few of the many passages, such as: Romans 5:12; Genesis 2:17; Genesis 1:29–30; Romans 8:20–22; Acts 3:21; Hebrews 9:22; 1 Corinthians 15; Revelation 21:1–4; Revelation 22:3.) This means there could not have been any animal fossils (and no dinosaur bones) before sin.
    After Adam’s sin, animals and people started to die. It was now a different world, one of death and strife. A world that was once beautiful now suffered under the curse placed upon it by the Creator (Genesis 3:14–19). But a promise was given (Genesis 3:15) that God would provide a way for the penalty of sin to be paid so there would be a way for man to come back to God. BOUYAH!!

  9. #2859

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zopista View Post
    Just read this!!


    1. God made everything in six days. He did this, by the way, to set a pattern for mankind, which has become our seven day week (as described in Exodus 20:11). God worked for six days and rested for one, as a model for us. Furthermore, Bible scholars will tell you that the Hebrew word for day used in Genesis 1, can only mean an ordinary day in this context.
    2. We are told God created the first man and woman—Adam and Eve—on Day Six. Many facts about when their children and their children’s children were born are given in Genesis. These genealogies are recorded throughout the Old Testament, up until the time of Christ. They certainly were not chronologies lasting millions of years.

    As you add up all of the dates, and accepting that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to Earth almost 2000 years ago, we come to the conclusion that the creation of the Earth and animals (including the dinosaurs) occurred only thousands of years ago (perhaps only 6000!), not millions of years. Thus, if the Bible is right (and it is!), dinosaurs must have lived within the past thousands of years.


    Evolutionists claim that dinosaurs evolved over millions of years. They imagine that one kind of animal slowly changed over long periods of time to become a different kind of animal. For instance, they believe that amphibians changed into reptiles (including dinosaurs) by this gradual process. This would mean, of course, that there would have been millions of creatures during that time that would be “in between,” as amphibians evolved into reptiles. Evidence of these “transitional forms,” as they are called, should be abundant. However, many fossil experts admit that not one unquestionable transitional form between any group of creatures and another has been found anywhere. If dinosaurs evolved from amphibians, there should be, for example, fossil evidence of animals that are part dinosaur and part something else. However, there is no proof of this anywhere. In fact, if you go into any museum you will see fossils of dinosaurs that are 100% dinosaur, not something in between. There are no 25%, 50%, 75%, or even 99% dinosaurs—they are all 100% dinosaur!

    The Bible tells us that God created all of the land animals on the sixth day of creation. As dinosaurs were land animals, they must have been made on this day, alongside Adam and Eve, who were also created on Day Six (Genesis 1:24–31). If God designed and created dinosaurs, they would have been fully functional, designed to do what they were created for, and would have been 100% dinosaur. This fits exactly with the evidence from the fossil record.

    Evolutionists declare that no man ever lived alongside dinosaurs. The Bible, however, makes it plain that dinosaurs and people must have lived together. Actually, as we will soon see, there is a lot of evidence for this.

    The Bible teaches (in Genesis 1:29–30) that the original animals (and the first humans) were commanded to be vegetarian. There were no meat eaters in the original creation. Furthermore, there was no death. It was an unblemished world, with Adam and Eve and animals (including dinosaurs) living in perfect harmony, eating only plants.
    Sadly, it did not stay this way for very long. Adam rebelled against his Creator, bringing sin into the world (Genesis 3:1–7; Romans 5:12). Because of this rebellion, Adam, and thus all of his descendants (you and me), gave up the right to live with a Holy (sinless) and just God. God therefore judged sin with death.
    The Bible plainly teaches from Genesis to Revelation that there was no death of animals or humans before Adam sinned. (Consider just a few of the many passages, such as: Romans 5:12; Genesis 2:17; Genesis 1:29–30; Romans 8:20–22; Acts 3:21; Hebrews 9:22; 1 Corinthians 15; Revelation 21:1–4; Revelation 22:3.) This means there could not have been any animal fossils (and no dinosaur bones) before sin.
    After Adam’s sin, animals and people started to die. It was now a different world, one of death and strife. A world that was once beautiful now suffered under the curse placed upon it by the Creator (Genesis 3:14–19). But a promise was given (Genesis 3:15) that God would provide a way for the penalty of sin to be paid so there would be a way for man to come back to God. BOUYAH!!
    "Evolution is no longer a mere Hypothesis"
    -Pope John Paul II

  10. #2860

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster23 View Post
    Whew, naglisud ku ug tubag da. hahahah
    Bible ku. like what cpt_star shared a verse.

    But one thing that crosses my mind, who made God?
    Do you have your own Bible?don't cross your mind,don't close your eyes, just cross your finger, to see the words from God! Have Faith! and you will see that God is the beginning..

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