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  1. #271

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?


    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    unsa diay ng verse 10? dili na nimo mabasa?
    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto "good works", which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    Ephesians 2:10.


    bro si Christ mismo ang nagsugo nga sundon siya og wala gyud siya ingon nga inig kamatay nako kay wala namoy buhaton.

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    Matthew 28:20

    bro kung mubasa mog bible ayaw selective nga pabor sa inyo flesh.
    Kay sa pagbasa ninyo basta walay trabahoon kungdi faith lang og grace kay hunong dayon mo og wala nay buhaton.

    PEace!
    Faith ra sa GOD arun maluwas. We are justified before GOD through Faith by the power of the blood of Christ.

    Good works ---- We are justified before men that we are saved because of our good deeds.

  2. #272

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Regarding sa Baptist nga Doctrine nga "Once Save Always Save", faith rajud na ilaha wala labot ang works... unsa imoha kasulti ana .. kay ang Ginoo daw dili man hatag / bawi ..
    bro ang kaluwasan kay mabakwi or makuha or mulayas ang Espiritu Santo nga gihatag.

    5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
    2 Corinthians 13:5

    even King David asked God not to take back the Holy Spirit that was given to him.

    10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
    11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
    Psalms 51:10-11

    and sins towards the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

    It was said in the bible:

    20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
    21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
    22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

    26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
    Hebrews 10:26-27

    OSAS is a big way to distruction, people will have courage to do anything anyway they are always said. Its not biblical.

    Peace!








  3. #273

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Mt 12:32
    And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
    Bro, from Matthew Henry's Commentary:

    (2.) Here is an exception of the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which is here declared to be the only unpardonable sin. See here,

    [1.] What this sin; it is speaking against the Holy Ghost. See what malignity there is in tongue-sins, when the only unpardonable sin is so. But Jesus knew their thoughts, v. 25. It is not all speaking against the person or essence of the Holy Ghost, or some of his more private operations, or merely the resisting of his internal working in the sinner himself, that is here meant; for who then should be saved? It is adjudged in our law, that an act of indemnity shall always be construed in favour of that grace and clemency which is the intention of the act; and therefore the exceptions in the act are not to be extended further than needs must. The gospel is an act of indemnity; none are excepted by name, nor any by description, but those only that blaspheme the Holy Ghost; which therefore must be construed in the narrowest sense: all presuming sinners are effectually cut off by the conditions of the indemnity, faith and repentance; and therefore the other exceptions must not be stretched far: and this blasphemy is excepted, not for any defect of mercy in God or merit in Christ, but because it inevitably leaves the sinner in infidelity and impenitency. We have reason to think that none are guilty of this sin, who believe that Christ is the Son of God, and sincerely desire to have part in his merit and mercy: and those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not. The learned Dr. Whitby very well observes, that Christ speaks not of what should be (Mk. 3:28; Lu. 12:10); Whosoever shall blaspheme. As for those who blasphemed Christ when he was here upon earth, and called him a Winebibber, a Deceiver, a Blasphemer, and the like, they had some colour of excuse, because of the meanness of his appearance, and the prejudices of the nation against him; and the proof of his divine mission was not perfected till after his ascension; and therefore, upon their repentance, they shall be pardoned: and it is hoped that they may be convinced by the pouring out of the Spirit, as many of them were, who had been his betrayers and murderers. But if, when the Holy Ghost is given, in his inward gifts of revelation, speaking with tongues, and the like, such as were the distributions of the Spirit among the apostles, if they continue to blaspheme the Spirit likewise, as an evil spirit, there is no hope of them that they will ever be brought to believe in Christ; for First, Those gifts of the Holy Ghost in the apostles were the last proof that God designed to make use of for the confirming of the gospel, and were still kept in reserve, when other methods preceded. Secondly, This was the most powerful evidence, and more apt to convince than miracles themselves. Thirdly, Those therefore who blaspheme this dispensation of the Spirit, cannot possibly be brought to believe in Christ; those who shall impute them to a collusion with Satan, as the Pharisees did the miracles, what can convince them? This is such a strong hold of infidelity as a man can never be beaten out of, and is therefore unpardonable, because hereby repentance is hid from the sinner's eyes.

    [2.] What the sentence is that is passed upon it; It shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. As in the then present state of the Jewish church, there was no sacrifice of expiation for the soul that sinned presumptuously; so neither under the dispensation of gospel grace, which is often in scripture called the world to come, shall there be any pardon to such as tread underfoot the blood of the covenant, and do despite to the Spirit of grace: there is no cure for a sin so directly against the remedy. It was a rule in our old law, No sanctuary for sacrilege. Or, It shall be forgiven neither now, in the sinner's own conscience, nor in the great day, when the pardon shall be published. Or, this is a sin that exposes the sinner both to temporal and eternal punishment, both to present wrath and the wrath to come.

  4. #274

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    nahala! ilabyog noy! hehe
    up please

  5. #275

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Mao na gi ingon sa MCCC bro nga Self Righteous person ... buotan pero dili spiritual nga tawo .. dili gihapon na Justified ...
    unya ngano man lagi katong parable ni jesus kay wa man lagi to kaila ang mga tao sa ginoo. pagkita nalang nila sa langit gipaadto sila kuyog sa mga kasulod sa langit mao nahibung sila nangutana ngano man. ingon pud kuno ang ginoo. "because i was hungry and you gave me food..." tapos nangitana sila "when did we see you hungry and gave you food?..." tubag kuno ang ginoo na "whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren you did it unto me.." katong mga tawhana nagbuhat ug maayo pero wa nila mailhi ang ginoo pero gipasulod sila kay nagbuhat silag maayo.

  6. #276

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Bro, from Matthew Henry's Commentary:

    (2.) Here is an exception of the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which is here declared to be the only unpardonable sin. See here,

    [1.] What this sin; it is speaking against the Holy Ghost. See what malignity there is in tongue-sins, when the only unpardonable sin is so. But Jesus knew their thoughts, v. 25. It is not all speaking against the person or essence of the Holy Ghost, or some of his more private operations, or merely the resisting of his internal working in the sinner himself, that is here meant; for who then should be saved? It is adjudged in our law, that an act of indemnity shall always be construed in favour of that grace and clemency which is the intention of the act; and therefore the exceptions in the act are not to be extended further than needs must. The gospel is an act of indemnity; none are excepted by name, nor any by description, but those only that blaspheme the Holy Ghost; which therefore must be construed in the narrowest sense: all presuming sinners are effectually cut off by the conditions of the indemnity, faith and repentance; and therefore the other exceptions must not be stretched far: and this blasphemy is excepted, not for any defect of mercy in God or merit in Christ, but because it inevitably leaves the sinner in infidelity and impenitency. We have reason to think that none are guilty of this sin, who believe that Christ is the Son of God, and sincerely desire to have part in his merit and mercy: and those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not. The learned Dr. Whitby very well observes, that Christ speaks not of what should be (Mk. 3:28; Lu. 12:10); Whosoever shall blaspheme. As for those who blasphemed Christ when he was here upon earth, and called him a Winebibber, a Deceiver, a Blasphemer, and the like, they had some colour of excuse, because of the meanness of his appearance, and the prejudices of the nation against him; and the proof of his divine mission was not perfected till after his ascension; and therefore, upon their repentance, they shall be pardoned: and it is hoped that they may be convinced by the pouring out of the Spirit, as many of them were, who had been his betrayers and murderers. But if, when the Holy Ghost is given, in his inward gifts of revelation, speaking with tongues, and the like, such as were the distributions of the Spirit among the apostles, if they continue to blaspheme the Spirit likewise, as an evil spirit, there is no hope of them that they will ever be brought to believe in Christ; for First, Those gifts of the Holy Ghost in the apostles were the last proof that God designed to make use of for the confirming of the gospel, and were still kept in reserve, when other methods preceded. Secondly, This was the most powerful evidence, and more apt to convince than miracles themselves. Thirdly, Those therefore who blaspheme this dispensation of the Spirit, cannot possibly be brought to believe in Christ; those who shall impute them to a collusion with Satan, as the Pharisees did the miracles, what can convince them? This is such a strong hold of infidelity as a man can never be beaten out of, and is therefore unpardonable, because hereby repentance is hid from the sinner's eyes.

    [2.] What the sentence is that is passed upon it; It shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. As in the then present state of the Jewish church, there was no sacrifice of expiation for the soul that sinned presumptuously; so neither under the dispensation of gospel grace, which is often in scripture called the world to come, shall there be any pardon to such as tread underfoot the blood of the covenant, and do despite to the Spirit of grace: there is no cure for a sin so directly against the remedy. It was a rule in our old law, No sanctuary for sacrilege. Or, It shall be forgiven neither now, in the sinner's own conscience, nor in the great day, when the pardon shall be published. Or, this is a sin that exposes the sinner both to temporal and eternal punishment, both to present wrath and the wrath to come.
    YES i agree with this..

    hehehe

  7. #277

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    kahibalo mo noh..ginoo ra jud tay makatubag ani tanan natong pangutana! and matubag lang ni inig ka matay nato!
    how about magsabot ta,...kinsay mauna nato diri...kay mopahibalo sa mga buhi sa kalibutan kung unsa juy tua sa sunod kinabuhi...if ma impyrerno bajud if naay mortal sin and wala ka pangayo ug pasaylo
    hehehehe

  8. #278

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by katezu
    kahibalo mo noh..ginoo ra jud tay makatubag ani tanan natong pangutana!
    sa nganong dili misahan ang naghikog?

    Si father tingali ma'am ug si monseoyor ang makatubag.

  9. #279

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by katezu
    kahibalo mo noh..ginoo ra jud tay makatubag ani tanan natong pangutana! and matubag lang ni inig ka matay nato!
    how about magsabot ta,...kinsay mauna nato diri...kay mopahibalo sa mga buhi sa kalibutan kung unsa juy tua sa sunod kinabuhi...if ma impyrerno bajud if naay mortal sin and wala ka pangayo ug pasaylo
    hehehehe
    MAS MAAYO PA. Bwahahahahaha!

    Depende sa tinuohan cguro. nay uban mo misa sa naghikog, nay uban dili. parehas ra sa Kasal. Kung nay sulod ang tiyan sa babaye, nay uban dili na mukasal ky nakasala kuno. sa ato pa ang uban nga gikasal walay sulod ang tiyan sa bride, walay sala... toinks!

  10. #280

    Default Re: Sa Roman Catholic, Nganong dili man misahan ang maghikog?

    Quote Originally Posted by katezu
    kahibalo mo noh..ginoo ra jud tay makatubag ani tanan natong pangutana! and matubag lang ni inig ka matay nato!
    how about magsabot ta,...kinsay mauna nato diri...kay mopahibalo sa mga buhi sa kalibutan kung unsa juy tua sa sunod kinabuhi...if ma impyrerno bajud if naay mortal sin and wala ka pangayo ug pasaylo
    hehehehe
    cge bro sabot ta, ikaw una.

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