There is no such thing as HEAVEN.

[Sinyalan]

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Its not my interpretations bro, here it is:

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
James 1:17.

and God the Father is in Heaven.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Matthew 6:9

Above where is above? I could be in outerspace and say there is no above. If you say above, you mean outside the planet earth? Then astronauts and and cosmonauts already found the heaven. But not their either.

LImbo is not written and mentioned in the bible.

Peace!

Brod, you don't know what sarcasm mean, do you?

[rcruman]

Above where is above? I could be in outerspace and say there is no above. If you say above, you mean outside the planet earth? Then astronauts and and cosmonauts already found the heaven. But not their either.

Not just outside the planet earth.
Thus humans reached the end of Universe?
Then remember in the bible there's 3rd Heaven and where the paradise belonged.
Aw sorry dili man diay ka tuo bible.

Brod, you don't know what sarcasm mean, do you?

Bro asa man ang sarcasm nga imo gisulti?

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

Not just outside the planet earth.
Thus humans reached the end of Universe?

Which universe is that? Where? Can you point where that place can be located?

Then remember in the bible there's 3rd Heaven and where the paradise belonged.
Aw sorry dili man diay ka tuo bible.

3rd Heaven? That's the book was telling people... people have not seen the 1st and 2nd heavens, how much more for the 3rd.

Bro asa man ang sarcasm nga imo gisulti?

Peace!

Now I know... :mrgreen:

[rcruman]

Which universe is that? Where? Can you point where that place can be located?

You mean that there are another universe?
Its beyond the universe.

3rd Heaven? That's the book was telling people... people have not seen the 1st and 2nd heavens, how much more for the 3rd.

Yes 3rd Heaven where the paradise located.
Bro The bible didn't tell people but people are the one to read the bible.
First heaven is within the atmosphere then second heaven is outside planet or galaxy or space.
Then 3rd Heaven after 2nd heaven.
People have seen 1st heaven and its where we lived.
Some people (spaceman) has been there at second heaven.
While almost all have seen the second heaven through pictures, telescope and etc.

Now I know... :mrgreen:

Asa lagi ato imo giingon nga sarcasm?

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

You mean that there are another universe?
Its beyond the universe.

you did not answer my question. where is that? Point me that place.

Yes 3rd Heaven where the paradise located.
Bro The bible didn't tell people but people are the one to read the bible.

Again, where is the 3rd heaven and the paradise is located?

First heaven is within the atmosphere then second heaven is outside planet or galaxy or space.

Did you just interpret the bible?

Then 3rd Heaven after 2nd heaven.
People have seen 1st heaven and its where we lived.

Can you tell me who those people that have seen the 1st heaven?

Some people (spaceman) has been there at second heaven.
While almost all have seen the second heaven through pictures, telescope and etc.

This is clearly an "out of context".

Asa lagi ato imo giingon nga sarcasm?

I don't like to repeat myself, you can find it for yourself.

[rcruman]

you did not answer my question. where is that? Point me that place.

Nawa bro defensive kaayo ka, ako ra gani giklaro imo question kay ingon ani imo question:

Which universe is that? Where? Can you point where that place can be located?

sunod klaroha imo point.

Again, where is the 3rd heaven and the paradise is located?

Bro again, paradise is located in 3rd heaven and 3rd Heaven is beyond the universe.
and Heaven is located above.
4 He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. Psalms 50:4

And God made the 1st and 2nd Heaven:
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:6-8

Did you just interpret the bible?

No I didn't kindly read again Genesis 1:6-8.

Can you tell me who those people that have seen the 1st heaven?

Its us all of us, we're in 1st heaven, people lived on earth has seen the 1st heaven.

This is clearly an "out of context".

Why?

I don't like to repeat myself, you can find it for yourself.

Just point a single sarcasm with our discussion.
Dili ko gusto ako ang mukuha kay dayon ra ba ka ingon "out of context".
Ipakita lang gud, diba naa, nya ato i-assess kung sarcasm ba gyud.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

Nawa bro defensive kaayo ka, ako ra gani giklaro imo question kay ingon ani imo question:sunod klaroha imo point.

Ngano, nagtuo diay ka nga isa ra ang universe? Unya, tubaga akong pangutana, asa lagi ng imong ingon nga universe nga tua ang langit?

Bro again, paradise is located in 3rd heaven and 3rd Heaven is beyond the universe.
and Heaven is located above.
4 He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. Psalms 50:4

Have you seen it? O basin lang basa nimo sa bible unya conclude ka dayun nga naa bisan wa ka kita.

And God made the 1st and 2nd Heaven:
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:6-8

Which you can find in the book, right? but not you can see with your own eyes, correct?

No I didn't kindly read again Genesis 1:6-8.

Refer to your posts because you did.

Its us all of us, we're in 1st heaven, people lived on earth has seen the 1st heaven.

Meaning to say, you don't have pertinent people to backup your claims. Why do you say US? I Have not seen heaven, do you? Can you define heaven? What's in heaven? Who is in Heaven, What kind of Heaven are we in?

Why?

Read your posts... Posted on: October 03, 2007, 16:10:49Posted by: rcruman

Just point a single sarcasm with our discussion.
Dili ko gusto ako ang mukuha kay dayon ra ba ka ingon "out of context".
Ipakita lang gud, diba naa, nya ato i-assess kung sarcasm ba gyud.

Peace!

As I said, I don't like to repeat. period! ... don't close your eyes brother... read them!

[rcruman]

Ngano, nagtuo diay ka nga isa ra ang universe? Unya, tubaga akong pangutana, asa lagi ng imong ingon nga universe nga tua ang langit?

Ngano bro daghan diay ang Universe? beh tigai kuno kog lain.
Naa diay ko giingon nga naa sa universe ang 3rd heaven? pagklaro bro basig naa nakay memory gap, ipost kuno beh kung naa ko statement nga ingon ana. Ako tubag nimo kay beyond universe kay ang 3rd Heavens.
Og universe kay dili makit-an ang kinutuban kung tawo ang pasukdon.
Mao bitaw muingon nalang ang tawo nga "the universe is an ever expanding universe".

Have you seen it? O basin lang basa nimo sa bible unya conclude ka dayun nga naa bisan wa ka kita.

Nganong makita man bro nga dili paman katapusan or dili judgment day.
Wala ko niconclude kungdi FAITH bro, substances of things we hoped.
Dili gyud ka tuo langit kay dili man gani ka tuo GINOO, its a domino effect.
Denying the creator it follows that all of His creations was just nothing to you.

Mao ni, most of your points are ripped from the bible which is baseless and nothing more like a hearsay.

Mao niy nakaparat sa imoha, kung tigaan tikag proof nako dayon balik nga ang bible is baseless and nothing more like a hearsay.
I will still use the bible (to its baseless and nothing).

Peace!

[Stingray Sr.]

Kung Ako ang Ginoo.
Unya Nagbuhat kog Heaven, dili na ko magbuhat og Earth.
Sakit sakit lang ko sa Ulo.
Heaven na dretso akong buhaton, puro buotan nga tawo akong buhaton.

Kung ikaw magbuhat ug butang, pinakamaayo ang imong buhaton,
dili ka maghimog bati o dautan(reject) kay imo man kanang hinimo.
ikaw ra may maulawan sa imong hinimo.

[The_Child]

Kung ikaw ang Ginoo... pero dili man ikaw ang Ginoo. (we couldnt place ourselves in the shoes of God )