conspiracy theories

[kit_cebu]

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lisod jud ning mods na imong kalalis dah.
wala nay laing forumers motingog.
mahadlok tingale nga initan.

probably because there is nothing really that we can do about those conspiracy theories........

only men of power who can do that.......and only guys who have nothing to do makes up these theories....

[pinoy_09]

ah, youtube, why put it down ?
its the only convenient reference for some one with a computer.

as they say, to see is to believe.
you may say, to read is to believe.

who's putting down youtube? i never underestimate youtube. youtube is a powerful medium.

to see is to believe, yes...

but please, don't confine your senses to what you only see in videos. you didn't even bother RESEARCHING!

[neshem]

Wala mo nagkasinabot! Ang bout pasabot ni Soul Doctor kay ang time para ma reach na siya na level sa temperature.

Example:
It take 1 hour to reach 1000 Celsius .

OT:
he knows what m talking bro..hes a chemical engineer. ^^

and for u..example pod bro.. if a certain compound can give u energy equals to let 80 C temp. dayon ang material kay mag melt sa 100 C, maski pa one hour bro dili nimo ma melt ang material coz ang imong source sa heat dra ra taman. gets?

[neshem]

repost lang nko ni.. kanang naay " " mao na question ni doc.. basin lang kapoyan back read and wala nabasa.

"if there was a real fire with intense heat enough to melt a concrete cement covered (aside from the asbestos foamed covering the) steel frames. what would be the color of the smoke?"

-first jet fuel burns around 426 -816 C , ang melting temp sa steel around 1510 C... (ingon diay sa report nangatunaw ang steel?) u dont need to melt the steel frame of a tower para mapa collapse nimo, they just have to lose some of their structural strenght, gamay ra na exposure sa heat kaya na na. ur a chemical engineer, u know na if ma expose sa init metal will expand at both ends, pero pag dili na cya maka expand it will sag and the surrounding concrete cracks. 50% sa steel strenght mawala na at 523 C, around 900 C 10% na lang bilin. dili lang kay ang jet fuel ang nasunog ato hasta mga combustibles material nga naa sa palibot, so mas taas ang temp ato than 800, probably around 900- 1000. ang jet fuel ang ignition source pero ang pagkasunog sa mga combustibles maoy responsible sa heat transfer paingon sa ubos.color of smoke, brownish to black.

[neshem]

still it was incomplete combustion.

mao btaw incomplete combustion, ikaw na mismo nag ingon ana.. maski pa ideal kaayo and given complete combustion..dili ghapon to maka melt sa steel.. i dont know why u insist on melting.

[Soul Doctor]

i agree with you on the whole outfit thing, but in this case, i don't think it's got anything to do with what these Popular Mechanics guys were wearing.

have you read "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts."? seriously, i suggest you read it. because i've read it, and i compared it to the claims presented in the Loose Change video.

or maybe you're just relying on these old youtube videos to defend your claim... lol.

i used to read popular mechanics, but those people turns me off.
its obvious they are getting paid to lie. silverstein just got paid 7 billion dollars for his building. from his capital of 386 million dollars. he can always pay anyone to lie for him, and he will pay those so called experts in their field. the people behind 911 attack can pay anyone who has a price.
compared to those loose change producers, old people are more to compromise their principles.
younger people are more idealistic.

[Soul Doctor]

@HIZUKA ...

One last warning na ka anang pagarpar nimo , ako mismo mo BAN nimo . Kutob sa makit-an tika maski asa pa ka na thread , sipyat lang ka gamay .

@SOUL DOCTOR ...



Dont assume too much soul doctor , they probably prefer to just lurk and read . Some probably gikapoy na ug tubay not on you but sa imohang topic .



Well if that is the case ... my mind is already set on the issue of the 9-11 as a TERRORIST ATTACK . Since you want to make a point na DEMOLITION to , your stand is that it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY that made to look like a terrorist attack . Isnt it obvious ?

Like I said , there is no point of discussing it point by point since you have the tools already . UNless wala niom gi basa ang link na gi provide nako , you will always ask for a discussion . What is the point ? Yes we can say it has been DEBUNKED and not from yesterday but years ago . POINT to POINT of whatever question you can raise from your googling .



I am not believing it . I am convinced nd buying it and not just AMERICANS but on a global scale . That is my claim also as a waiver .



How about this , why would you ask QUESTIONS when you already know the ANSWERS ? Think about it , even if I dont know the answer yet , I am the wrong person to discuss it with because I am not that well verse sa mga issues na gipang bring nimo . Mura bitaw ug ... hey SOUL DOCTOR .... want to talk about FOOD and GUNS POINT by POINT ? But I gave you a tool that carries informational content na dili HAKA HAKA . You should appreciate me , I gave you convenience instead of headache kaysa mag debate na wala tay gi barugan . My sources are from the net but a credible one , whats yours ?

Along he way ... you never READ the sources I gave you because you saif you dont have time to READ but only WATCH VIDEOS . That explains it . Just give it a chance . I know your questions are not your questions , mga questions na gipang kuha ra pod nimo out of the YOUTUBE VIDEOS . na intrigue lang ka but you unkowingly gi DEBUNK na diay that is why I am aksing you to READ .

Reading is better mind you than watching a 2 minute video and makes you speculate tht everything is a LIE .

i dont need to read, you are just buying time.
i already got what i need to debate anyone about the 911.
you asking me to read is just your technique to buy time
and to pretend you know better than me about the subject.
maybe you know better. but i understand it better than you so stop telling me to read your links.
its time comsuming, and i dont have that luxury.
get to the point.
id be ready to shoot it out.
lets see whose point will be demolished first.

[THE SKULLS]

Soul Doc is right, it's controlled demolition.

[Soul Doctor]

the producers of loose change are not in it for the money.
if you noticed, they just ask you to download those videos for a little fee to support their cause.
and they will instruct you to make a copy and give it to your friends.
why would they do that if they wanted to make money.
with the absence of billionaires support.
but they are all idealistic.
they just don't want this group of people to succeed in deceiving the world.
that to me is admirable.
so call them conspiracy theorist. i call them heroes.
if ninoy aquino was alive today.
he would be the first filipino to tell us that the 911 attack is not a terrorist attack.
because he can understand things better than anyone.
he even predicted and prepared for his own death.
which is another unsolved conspiracy.

[pantaleon]

I only have a few questions for you guys that I'm sure you will enjoy.

1.How many planes crashed into the twin towers in 9-11?

2.What type of airplanes crashed into the twin towers in New York city on September 11th 2001?

3.Is it capable of destroying the Twin Towers?

4.What is the fuel capacity of the Boeing 747 that have hit the Twin Towers?

5.What are the procedures of the Airlane companys to counter terrorism at the time before the attack in 9-11? We all know that aircraft hi-jacking was not rare.

6.Did the Airlane company recieve a distrees call from the pilots of those aircraft? If they have receive it then where is it?

7.Where is the Blueprint of the Twin Towers? Is it strong enough to withstand such impact?

8.What kind of Building materials did they use in building the Twin Towers?


Heres just a few of them,I hope you all can answer it with matching scientific evidence.

And can somebody answer my questions!
Especially 4,6,5

I have also noticed that the NEWS around that time was focused more in Iraq and the next move of the US.