View Poll Results: Do you believe the "People's Inititive" for Charter Change is unconstitutional?

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  • Yes. It is unconstitutional

    17 31.48%
  • No. It is legal

    37 68.52%
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  1. #251

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change


    Certifiably
    ‘legion’


    The biblical story of the Gerasene demoniac came to mind once again when I listened to Makati Mayor Jojo Binay present in power point how the acolytes of the Singaw ng Bayad operated their numbers in his constituency. Its local operator, washed-out politician Bobby Brillante descended upon the place along with his "legion". Armed with sacks and sacks of rice and instant noodles, the diet perforce of the masa glorianicus, a specie of earthlings with a strange diet of carbohydrates plus more carbohydrates laced with monosodium glutamate, the "legion" proceeded to collect signatures for their enterprise of deceit called charter change, cha-cha for short.

    Lo and behold! Jojo last Monday showed us signatures collected from the dead and buried. He showed us death certificates, replete with lapidas de marmol, pronouncing in terms most uncertain, that the Singaw performed the miraculous feat of getting the dead to sign their petition. Miracolo del’ inferno!

    They had double entries, such as one Roberto Calara in one sheet and a Calara Roberto on another. They produced sheets obviously fabricated by one and the same person (did they tap the expertise of Roque Bello, or El Bello, or even Garci’s coven?). In the end, they got the local Comelec officer, Maria Lourdes Ugalino, to certify that out of 194,223 registered voters in the first district, 43,405 signatures were submitted for verification, but only 7,186, a ratio of 3.7 percent, passed. Passed, just like the nurses who got the exam questionnaire leakage, perhaps? Most likely, Ugalino and her staff merely checked the names versus the election registry, but did not raise a howl that these legions submitted 36,219 spurious signatures. Would not the mere act of submitting not one, not two, but 36,219 spurious signatures be enough reason to throw these bastard legionnaires out?

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/aug31/edbanayo.htm

  2. #252

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    The people's initiative is riddled with forgeries! Dead People were still able to sign. Oh my... another manifestation of cheating!!!

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=48761
    Whats new with that? Observe the election in our country kay ana jud na.

  3. #253

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    Quote Originally Posted by tjyrna
    For me guys the solution is not the chacha but we as a fillipino should be smart enough to elect a person to run the govt.Remember that a system wo'nt fail but the persons that are running it do.
    You're right tjyrna! The Filipino people doesn't need any changes in our constitution at this time. Why change to something that is not yet proven to work with the kind of culture we have here. Back to square one again? Never!

  4. #254

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    ang dili ganahan sa chacha kay ang mga congressman ug senators kay mawala naman silay trabaho and mawagtang ilang protection sa mga negosyo....ako okay kaayo nako ang chacha...

  5. #255

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    mao ni xa ang gi tawag nga peoples initiative dba? ka remember jud ko ani kai gi personal jud ko adto sa amoa.. nga dapat mo sign jud me nga isa sa mga ni sugot sa CHACHa.. den ana ko nga d ko mo sign kai wala pa ko sure unsay chacha wala pa ko kaayu idea.. unsa na xa.. den ana 2ng niadto sa amoa nga wala man daw ko pugsa pa sign a2 basta if during election na naa man baya na buying of votes.. d daw ko ka dawat og money kai naa man listahan kinsa me vote sa CHACHA nga iipa YES.. didtoa wala jud ko me sign.. nag bagolbol 2ng babae paguli. kai wala man jud ko me sign..

    gee mao nay gitawag nga peoples initiative? nga mapogos man ang tao pagpasign a2.. den ka2 pod wala knowledge nga mahadlok walai ma hagdaw during elction.. mo sign pod para maka dawat... tsk tsk


  6. #256

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    CBCP lauds Comelec’s junking of PI petition




    09/02/2006

    The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) yesterday lauded the Commission on Elections’ (Comelec) decision to junk the petition for people’s initiative to effect Charter change (Cha-cha) filed by the Sigaw ng Bayan and the Union of Local Authorities (Ulap).

    “I believe that it was right for the Comelec to have rejected this people’s initiative.” CBCP president Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo said.

    Lagdameo said he expected the Comelec to deny the petition to amend the Constitution as he believes it is “lacking in credibility.”

    He added that since the Sigaw ng Bayan movement and Ulap started gathering the signatures, they have heard reports of “manipulations in the process.”

    In an en banc decision, the Comelec denied the Malacañang-backed initiative for lack of an “enabling law.”

    “This commission is not unmindful of the transcendental importance of the people under a system of initiative. But neither can we turn a blind eye to the pronouncement of the high court that in the absence of a valid enabling law, this right of the people remains nothing but an ‘empty right,’ and that this commission is permanently enjoined from entertaining or taking cognizance of any petition for initiative on amendments to the Constitution,” the poll body said in a unanimous decision.

    Reacting to reports that Cha-cha proponents are planning to elevate the case to the Supreme Court (SC), Lagdameo advised the high court to “carefully study the case in order to arrive at the right decision.”

    Lagdameo said the CBCP has intensified its education campaign for the people to reflect on the various implications of the proposed constitutional change.

    He said the CBCP national secretariat for social action, justice and peace has already come up with a campaign strategy that will harness widespread discussion, analysis and reflection on pertinent issues.

    Caloocan Bishop Deogracias Iñiguez in a separate interview has also expressed approval of the poll body’s decision.

    But he admitted that he remains wary of the possible actions relating to the issue, particularly those coming from the government.

    “We congratulate Comelec but I cannot still accept it at face value because we have to look at what the proponents of Cha-cha would do as there are still some doubts,” Iñiguez said.

  7. #257

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    There is no such thing as people's initiative. Why? When the barangay leaders held barangay assembly to discuss THOROUGHLY what is Cha cha and what are the proposed changes, people were just handed forms. Then, after signing kilos of rice and some cash were given. These were caught on video.

    Where is people's initiative there? This is Glue-ria initiative. Very deceptive and self serving.

  8. #258

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    CBCP is not credible na para nako....

  9. #259

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    There is no such thing as people's initiative. Why? When the barangay leaders held barangay assembly to discuss THOROUGHLY what is Cha cha and what are the proposed changes, people were just handed forms. Then, after signing kilos of rice and some cash were given. These were caught on video.

    Where is people's initiative there? This is Glue-ria initiative. Very deceptive and self serving.
    si binay ray naghimu2x anang video

  10. #260

    Default Re: MERGED: Charter Change

    Agree jud ko anang chacha! :mrgreen:

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