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    DENYING and DISBELIEF are two different things.
    Logically speaking, mere disbelief in the truth of a proposition cannot be treated as equivalent to the belief that the proposition is false and that the opposite is true. If you make a claim and I disbelieve it, I am not necessarily saying that your claim is false. I may not understand it well enough to say one way or the other. Or I may lack enough information to test your claim. Or I may simply not care enough to think about it.

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    Eating and Consuming are too different things, logically.

  3. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    DENYING and DISBELIEF are two different things.
    Logically speaking, mere disbelief in the truth of a proposition cannot be treated as equivalent to the belief that the proposition is false and that the opposite is true. If you make a claim and I disbelieve it, I am not necessarily saying that your claim is false. I may not understand it well enough to say one way or the other. Or I may lack enough information to test your claim. Or I may simply not care enough to think about it.
    point taken sir, but it's still a decision. you decided to be an atheist right? don't worry sir, i'm not against atheism. and i totally respect your beliefs/disbeliefs/denying and/or whatsoever. if i am to choose, i'd rather be an atheist rather than be a religionist. but i decided not to cling too much to clingingness or even non-clingingness. so simply put, i'm just me. no labels necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    point taken sir, but it's still a decision. you decided to be an atheist right? don't worry sir, i'm not against atheism. and i totally respect your beliefs/disbeliefs/denying and/or whatsoever. if i am to choose, i'd rather be an atheist rather than be a religionist. but i decided not to cling too much to clingingness or even non-clingingness. so simply put, i'm just me. no labels necessary.
    IMO, they are mere labels. after i left my cherished faith and started from scratch. what i have had fell under the one broad label, atheism. Different atheists disbelieve in different ways and for different reasons. Atheism comes in different shades.

  5. #255
    how about when everyone else but you does not believe it?

    would that make the proposition false? or is everyone else just dang crazy, while you're not..

  6. #256
    how about when everyone else but you does not believe it?
    Crucified upside down.

    would that make the proposition false? or is everyone else just dang crazy, while you're not
    Duh, they think I am but I do also think they are... ...Crazier..

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    5h17 do happens.
    Just like now, I lost my cellphone.

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    ^God will help you find it or help you get over it.

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    It depends on how one looks at it. I think luck is the will of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikxz unÖ View Post
    5h17 do happens.
    Just like now, I lost my cellphone.
    Fundie: it is predicted as written in the book of Little Bo Peep

    Little Bo peep has lost her sheep (LilPep 1:1)
    Fundie: the scriptures never lie!

    cheer up nixx, you will find it soon or you can find a replacement.

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