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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    Really? bro try to read it again, kabantay ka sa word nga "the word became or manifest in FLESH"?
    So by nature He is not man but manifest in Flesh.
    Kay ingon si Pablo:

    5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
    7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    Philippians 2:5-8

    so klaro kaay diha nga "was made in the likeness of me" so dili siya tawo kungdi niparehas sa tawo.
    Pareha pananglitan ni Bill Gates, kung magpakapobre siya og mutapon sa mga pobre sa iskwater unsa man siya pobre or nagpakapobre?
    Mao pud na si Cristo, Ginoo siya og nagpakatawo/manifest into Flesh kay dili siya Flesh by nature.
    Bro kindly give a verse that shows "Christ is Man and GOD at the same time".?
    Let us be biblical, give verse not personal comment or knowledge.
    I will just wait your answer first.

    Peace!
    It said, the word became and not manifest ayaw pun-i ang bible. The word became flesh and dwells among us.

    Naging tao po si CHrist rc, basaha ang tibuok gospel (mat, mar, luk and jhn) He live, he wept, he feel pain, he died but unlike other death He ressurected and never died again.

    HE was 100% man and HE is 100%GOD.

  2. #242

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    It said, the word became and not manifest ayaw pun-i ang bible. The word became flesh and dwells among us.

    Naging tao po si CHrist rc, basaha ang tibuok gospel (mat, mar, luk and jhn) He live, he wept, he feel pain, he died but unlike other death He ressurected and never died again.

    HE was 100% man and HE is 100%GOD.
    mao jud 100% human as well as God..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    mao jud 100% human as well as God..
    ang pangutana ana sunod asa sa bible kay ato ra daw na pamulong. hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    ang pangutana ana sunod asa sa bible kay ato ra daw na pamulong. hehehe
    hahaha unsa dai ni scriptive?...

    hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    hahaha unsa dai ni scriptive?...

    hehehe
    aw kabalo kana. mangita man gud na uban ug ibidinsiya. ividince bah.

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    Default Re: What is Ten Commandments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    aw kabalo kana. mangita man gud na uban ug ibidinsiya. ividince bah.
    Gipamulong mo na Bro........... unsaon mobarog man gyud na sila sa ilang gitoohang sakto...........

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    nindot unta kung insakto gyud. klarong dili man.

  8. #248

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoseph
    For the general discussion, hope it may help.


    John 1 - The Word Became Flesh

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    [ A word represents a concept, idea, or thought. Here, it means that God can think like us (‘in the beginning was the Word'), and that His Thoughts are in His "Mind", so to speak ('and the Word was with God'), and that God was thinking of Himself ('and the Word was God'). In the beginning, there was no one else but, God. It's only natural that He got to think of Himself since, there may be nothing else to think of yet. It may somewhat be restated as "God is aware of Himself." ]

    2 He was with God in the beginning.

    [ The Word/Thought here is more clearly represented like a separate person. This implies He created someone yet, that someone is Himself. The paradox can be explained by:

    a) God creates by conceiving (with thoughts or symbolically a "word") and willing it to existence.

    b) In this instance, He conceived and willed into existence His Concepcion (thought or "word") of Himself.

    c) The Creator is Himself uncreated (else, He won't be the Creator since, someone else created Him), and is thus, formless. He is a spirit (spirit means without form). However, in this willing into existence His Concepcion or Thought of Himself, He in effect created a "body", so to speak, or more accurately, he created a "soul" for Himself (the soul is the spirit's body. The spirit by itself is formless).

    This is to our benefit. There is no way to perceive the Creator in his original form (as a spirit). But, by creating a Soul for Himself, it is now possible for His created to perceive Him (eventually). ]

    3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    [ After God made His own Soul, He proceeded with the rest of creation. ]

    4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

    [ If we equate Love with Life, and we also equate Light with Wisdom, this transforms to "By His Love for us, He dedicates His Life to guiding (or nurturing) us (forever). ]

    5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

    [ God loves and continually guides/nurtures us even if we don't even realize it. ]

    6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.
    7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe.
    8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
    9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

    [ The Word is being equated with light, meaning His Omniscience and by extension, His Wisdom. It also suggests that the purpose of His coming is to enlighten us, that is, to teach/guide us. ]

    10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
    11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.

    [ This means that we have forgotten our Creator so much so (became selfish) that, we did not (or will not) recognize Him even if he revealed (reveals) Himself. ]

    12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

    [ If God calls His own Soul His (only begotten) Son, and He would call us His Children (the worthy ones) then, He kind-of considers us as one would consider another equal (dili siya "another"). He is like offering His Friendship, and we need only accept, and be a true friend in return. ]

    14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    [ God in His original spirit formlessness is the Father, Who begot His own Soul, the Son, was born and lived as a man. The Father will always be an infinite spirit thus, He needed a Soul for Himself in order to manifest (to us), and specifically as a man (para tanan makakita). ]

    15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' "

    [ John is naturally humble but, more importantly, he wants to clarify he is not the Messiah. ]

    16 From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another.

    [ This implies that Jesus is God Himself. ]

    17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

    [ That Moses is only a spokesperson but, Jesus speaks only for Himself (kay God man). It is finally revealed who the Word is. ]

    18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

    [ It may be restated as "Jesus is the only begotten Son of the Father (God only has one Soul), to Whom the Father reveals all (because the Word or Jesus also stands for God's Light and Wisdom). ]



    [ I'm sharing my understanding of that which is not mine. I don't mean to start a debate. T.Y. ]

    And I don't mean to debate you George my man. =) John chapter 1 was simply talking about Jesus Christ or Jehovah at that time. He was the Word (Jesus was designated with many terms in the Old and New Testament). He was with God (the Father) - there were more than one personages at that time. =) By him everything was created - meaning everything was created under his direction yet still the authority came from God the Father. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us - Jesus at the time of the creation or the Old Testament was Jehovah. He was the God of Moses and of Abraham. He represented God the Father with His dealings with men. He was addressed by many names and symbols, fire (burning bush), Yahweh, I AM, etc... That's why the pharisees got crazy when he said 'Before Abraham was I AM.' The name I AM was held as extremely holy by the people at that time much more with the pharisees. There are numerous incidents in the New Testament where Jesus tells his people that he was in the creation and before and at the time of the patriarchs.

    Ever wonder why in Genesis it says, 'Let US make man in OUR own image'.

    There is no confusion for God is not a god of confusion. It is simple and should be clear. God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are three different and separate personages. They are one in purpose and that will never change. But they are three separate personages. There is no mystery about this only things that have not been revealed yet. The Lord only reveals what is necessary for our salvation. One step at a time. Line upon line, precept upon precept. The adversary likes us to think otherwise. If there is anything we don't understand, he tells us it's a mystery and thus leads to confusion and different interpretations. In the Revelations the adversary has been designated as the god of Mystery.

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    5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
    6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
    7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
    Philippians 2:5-8

    Asa lagi sa bible nga 100% Man og 100% God si Jesus?

    kay ingon ni Pablo:
    8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
    Colossians 2:8-9

    So si Christo dili tawo, og mao ni ingon ni Pablo:

    11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
    12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
    Galatians 1:11-12

    so si Pablo nga apostle og Ministro ni Cristo kay ingon dili tawo si Cristo kay wala niya nadawat gikan sa tawo ang iya kaalam kungdi gikan kang Jesus Christ so meaning dili tawo si Jesus Christ.
    Karon kinsa man ako tuohan si Pablo or ang mga tawo nga pataka lang og basa sa bible nya explain og kaugalingon?
    Bro just give your biblical proof aron nindot.

    og ang mga apostle ni Cristo kay dili tawo ang tan-aw sa iyaha, naa pud si PHILIP nga dili tawo ang tan-aw sa iyaha og naa pud si Pedro.

    PEace!




  10. #250

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    asa man sab sa bible nga ga sulti nga si eli soriano maoy super preacher? asa pud sa bible makit-an nga ok ra mangluwa sa supot nga naay baas kung mo barug sa pulpito habang ga-preach?

    dba wala pud. Tama?

    Wa gyud d i ka kabasa sa Bible nga si Jesus was reffered to as the "Son of man"?. ug g-address as " the man - Jesus Christ"? Unsa man d i to? does it mean He wasn't man when He was born in the manger? unsa naman ni oi.

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