Did the Great Flood during the time of Noah really happen?

[leo_trams]

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posible oi nga ang puti maka anak ug itom and its being advocated by science. Havent you heard nga ang karaang tawo sa una nga murag unggoy ang pustora na developed mn gani into what we are today.kung mag lalis pa mo ani hala pagdala mo ug evidence nga dili ni mahitabo nga imposible mahitabo kay ang SCIENCE na inyung kontra.

...so you are saying and pustora ni adam and eve murag unggoy? so gkan gyud diay ta sa mga unggoy/apes?

@leo_trams
sa kadaghan sa imong pangutana dili dayun na matubag but i suggest you start reading the bible,the answers to some of your questions are in there. come back here if some answers are unavailable. para ma gamay gamayan nato ang discussion.

okay, first 5 questions lang sa:

1. when did the great flood happened, time/year estimate?
2. pila ka days nag-rain to fill the "entire earth?
3. when did they start boarding the ark?
4. after how many days of rain did the ark started floating?
5. how many days were they locked-up/floating with the ark?

[JustAskin]

never did i state nga gikan ta sa unggoy, ang akong pasabot ato kay kung science ang imong pasultihon puede na mahitabo kay puede man gani sa ila(science) ang unggoy mahimong tawo.


the answers to your first five qurestions are in the bible. spare me the labor im a very busy guy. as ive said read the bible first and if the answer to some of your questionsa are unavailable come back here and lets discuss it para ma gamay gamay ang discussion.

[leo_trams]

they are unavailable...so im back.

about the race issue...

posible oi nga ang puti maka anak ug itom and its being advocated by science. Havent you heard nga ang karaang tawo sa una nga murag unggoy ang pustora na developed mn gani into what we are today.kung mag lalis pa mo ani hala pagdala mo ug evidence nga dili ni mahitabo nga imposible mahitabo kay ang SCIENCE na inyung kontra.

...you used this as your answer to the race issue. hehehe

[Oakboy]

@ oakboy


wa diay ka masayud nga ang osa ka breed nga kabayo maka produce ug lain nga kabayo? paita! ayaw na lang tuga tuga ug sdiscuss kung kulang imong pagsabot sa topic.

nya oakboy have you ever heard of the term "eve gene"?

ang topic bro about the Great flood during the time of noah
bro kalma lang, hehehe! ayaw anang mohisgot ka og ayaw pa tuga2x kong kamao gyudka u must enlighten me..gamay rako og nahibaw-an anang breeding2x pero kasabot ko ang usaka mananap syempre maka anak...pero pangutan -on taka sample langha iro(dog) e crossbreed German shep male + Germ shep female = geman shep pupp, pero german shep male + pitbull female = letsay gerbullshep..
now back to adam & eve the same raman sila race nya karon usa sa ilang naanak morag unggoy og pustora?

walapako kadungog anang eve gene.. please enlighten me..

na alegre man hinoon ni nga thread.

about the race issue...

posible oi nga ang puti maka anak ug itom and its being advocated by science. Havent you heard nga ang karaang tawo sa una nga murag unggoy ang pustora na developed mn gani into what we are today.kung mag lalis pa mo ani hala pagdala mo ug evidence nga dili ni mahitabo nga imposible mahitabo kay ang SCIENCE na inyung kontra.

sa ato pa usa sa mga anak to ni adam and eve tong mga karaang tawo sa una nga murag unggoy ang pustora? nya ni shift to what we are now?

[Oakboy]

never did i state nga gikan ta sa unggoy, ang akong pasabot ato kay kung science ang imong pasultihon puede na mahitabo kay puede man gani sa ila(science) ang unggoy mahimong tawo.

nya nahimo ni? kinsa naka discover ani..asa namani ron ning unggoya nga tawo na karon? kon nahimo ni nila?

[leo_trams]

na alegre man hinoon ni nga thread.

about the race issue...

posible oi nga ang puti maka anak ug itom and its being advocated by science. Havent you heard nga ang karaang tawo sa una nga murag unggoy ang pustora na developed mn gani into what we are today.kung mag lalis pa mo ani hala pagdala mo ug evidence nga dili ni mahitabo nga imposible mahitabo kay ang SCIENCE na inyung kontra.


@leo_trams

sa kadaghan sa imong pangutana dili dayun na matubag but i suggest you start reading the bible,the answers to some of your questions are in there. come back here if some answers are unavailable. para ma gamay gamayan nato ang discussion.

you used SCIENCE to answer the race issue..., now can you use SCIENCE to answer the GREAT Flood issue?
@JustAskin: so, you're saying... everything that happened in the BIBLE can be explained by SCIENCE?

[Sinyalan]

never did i state nga gikan ta sa unggoy, ang akong pasabot ato kay kung science ang imong pasultihon puede na mahitabo kay puede man gani sa ila(science) ang unggoy mahimong tawo.
Interesting brod. But ang science wa nag depend sa biblical creation (to borrow rcruman's words) kun dili nag depend sa facts. Ang science nag-explain nga ang early man was from an ape... science have solid evidences mao nga nagkuha sila sa theory ni charles darwin. Ang unggoy nga mahimong tawo is not biblical but science...

kabahin sa picture, it's possible nga naay ingon ini BUT through Artificial Insemination... meaning science intervention.

[rcruman]

So, the verse was to unify the people after the Great Flood?
No its not, its the decision of the people to make a tower for them dili masaag og magtapoktapok sila sa usa ka lugar.
Nya ang gusto sa GInoo kay mukatag og lukpan ang tibuok kalibutan muna iya giusab ang language aron magbulagbulag sila.

Meaning brod, you don't have a strong argument to contirbute about scientific facts. Pigs example. Can you crossbreed a pig to cow? or a goat? If you can, tendency is a freak! What is your point of gilapa ug gihiwahiwa na? Similarities?
What? what i'm going right now? I'm giving you the fact but the article can't be posted because my time are limited.
About gilapa og gihiwahiwa it means nga ang tanang baboy o baka o mananap kung kuhan nimog balahibo og panit parehag nawong tanan bisag asa pa.

Can you crossbreed a pig to cow? or a goat?
About this question, gitook ka ani bro.
its impossible to crossbreed not on the same species and type.
So in terms of Humans, you can transplant organs human to human because we are compatible (considering the type) and the same design.
Like the ATM cards, it has the same size but different type.
It can be transacted in any parts of the world and any bank as long as naay pondo (right? dba naa ka sa banko).
That will also applicable to humans, we are all the same if we took off our skins.
Don't focus on the outside appearance because we will all differ from each other.
Even from our brothers and sisters, if you are 5 to 10 members in the family there's a possibility nga naay malahig nawong.


Peace!

[Sinyalan]

No its not, its the decision of the people to make a tower for them dili masaag og magtapoktapok sila sa usa ka lugar.
Nya ang gusto sa GInoo kay mukatag og lukpan ang tibuok kalibutan muna iya giusab ang language aron magbulagbulag sila.
meaning to say brod nga there early races from other continents nga niapil ug tukod sa tower? Considering the size of the tower they made... it wouldn't take from an 8 people to multiply in just a span of what, few years?

What? what i'm going right now? I'm giving you the fact but the article can't be posted because my time are limited.
to prove what you have been talking about, that article should be a basis or your argument... like for example... adto ka gubat (war) unya naa kai armas but wala kai dalang bala... unsa may mahitabo? time is all we have here... mao nga we spend time in this forum to discuss.

About gilapa og gihiwahiwa it means nga ang tanang baboy o baka o mananap kung kuhan nimog balahibo og panit parehag nawong tanan bisag asa pa.
This is going nowhere... but I'll ride on to your argument. Can you clearly explain what is the point here?
You mean...
baboy (shaved) + Baka (shaved) = the same faces?
baka (shaved) + unggoy (shaved) = the same faces?
If not, clearly state you point...

its impossible to crossbreed not on the same species and type.
... it's possible to crossbreed on different species and type? libog ko ani nga tubag...

So in terms of Humans, you can transplant organs human to human because we are compatible (considering the type) and the same design.yes, transplant of course but how long? meaning there is incompatibilities... I have note that I wrote way back a year ago... Successful inter-human allotransplants have a relatively long history; the operative skills were present long before the necessities for post-operative survival were discovered. Rejection and the side effects of preventing rejection (especially infection and nephropathy) were, are, and may always be the key problem. -- Dr. Pien Ch-iao

Like the ATM cards, it has the same size but different type.
It can be transacted in any parts of the world and any bank as long as naay pondo (right? dba naa ka sa banko).
I don't see the analogy on this example, you compare size of plastic that is virtualy not the same to humans. Even so, the logical point on using an atm machine is putting the thing into a open hole and get money... humans can't be similar to this, Humans by all means have huge differences... size? type? in what sense you were referring to? organs? body structure?

That will also applicable to humans, we are all the same if we took off our skins.
This is really a illogical statement... change your example brod, skins cannot be the same... you're generalizing the entire point that since we have skins (humans) we are all the same? Of course physically we have them but if you like to compare skins in medical terms, this is where you point is wrong.

Don't focus on the outside appearance because we will all differ from each other.
wait, didn't you mention that "if we look closely our skins, we are the same?" Unya diri sa line nimo, we don't have to focus on outside - meaning physical - appearance that we differ from eath other? Contradicting...

Even from our brothers and sisters, if you are 5 to 10 members in the family there's a possibility nga naay malahig nawong.
... as what I have said before... CROSSBREED na tang tanan.

[leo_trams]

Advance na kaayo ta da! Niabot na man ta races...

okay, first 5 questions lang sa:

1. when did the great flood happened, time/year estimate?
2. pila ka days nag-rain to fill the "entire earth?
3. when did they start boarding the ark?
4. after how many days of rain did the ark started floating?
5. how many days were they locked-up/floating with the ark?