Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[danelectro]

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YES

[forum_angel]

definitely

[gareb]

tolstoi:this is fun.

evil, my friend, (or what is deemed evil) is subject to a certain society's morality. it is a label that people (or society) places to those who dare to subvert or negate the social control mechanisms and institutions that are already in place. 'good' and 'evil' are applied to ideas and people according to a either percieved benefit or detriment, respectively. morality aims to preserve the status quo (whether for the benefit or the detriment of the people). as u can see, morality is always there to place the label of 'heresy' and 'evil' both to those who aim to harm society and those who try to change it. religion, theistic belief and morality, are after all, social institutions that permeate control and conformity.

so much for the sociological side of the problem of evil. now to the logical.

it is not even a question, based on the premises that you supplied if indeed i am evil. but the main push of your acceptance of that simple logic i have presented is the glaring fact that it rendered the concept of god impossible. the mere existence of evil (or the non-existence of good in those cases if you want to insist), and yes, the fact that hitler existsted (and that he was supposely allowed to exist by a supreme being) abolishes the god concept in its entirety.

why does he allow evil? = 'free will'
why does he allow free will = 'eternal, unconditional love'
'eternal, unconditional love' = cause of evil

evil which happens when god is not around. wow. nice.
and god supposedly knows all of this as he supposedly knows everything.
the mere fact that evil happens is

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

it is hard to accept that, of course, because it is the status quo belief. and we are being trained not to me critical about these things. they are after all deemed to me beleived without question, or in common parlance, 'faith'.

hay naku. now dont tell me that the electro-magnetic theory is not real? and does that include the atomic theory as well? grabe sad uy.

it is not as if only the things that you can see are the only things you can observe.to throw the ball at you, do you now believe that you do not have a brain because, well, you cannot see it? it does not mean that if one things cannot be seen, it is not there. and no. this is not just about sight. this is about observation, which means that it includes measuring the effects of something, and experimentation.

ultraviolet and infrared radiation cannot be seen by the naked eye that includes bacteria and other mircoorganisms. but with the proper optics developed because of optical theory, we now can see them.

[Miryam Dipinsor Sanyajo]

New Testament
After the first temptation of man God gave man freewill. But men destroyed men...

God sent Noah to his people and asked him to tell them to worship none but the One, who was the Creator of all. He was also told to warn them that 'stern retribution will overtake them' if they did not heed his call.

The nobles among them refused to believe him. They said: You are just a human being like us; why should we follow you? Except the vulgar who may thoughtlessly hasten to listen to you, you have no superiority over us; in fact, you are nothing but an impostor [11:27]

He sent messengers, He did not want to intercede.

And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Tales of destruction/punishment in the Old Testament tells us how God wanted to save His people from their own destruction. I guess He got tired of it and promised not to do it anymore. So on and forth, thus the Old Testament.

New Testament - the coming of Christ

God sent His only begotten son to save mankind. He spoke to men and made miracles and taught them to know the Lord.

He died on the cross and ascended to heaven. The Holy Spirit came to reside within Jesus Christ's true followers after Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to heaven (Acts 2). Jesus told His apostles...

I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you."

"When He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come."

Without the Holy Spirit there can be no understanding of spiritual things. You could learn the Bible from cover to cover. But the Scriptures can be woven into the fabric of your heart only by the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit there would be no Christians. The Bible tells the Good News about the Holy Spirit. Although for me the Bible is flawed, I have known the Spirit and found truth.

Non-believers can ratatat all they want pero dili gyud ninyo matugkad ang kamatuoran ug wala mo kaila sa Espiritu Santo.

Baw.

[wicked_enchantress]

yes most definitely i do believe in God, when i was in those troubled times, he was there for me, even if had turned my back at Him, he was still there to carry me and made me realize that is He is the answer and He is the only one you can turn to when you dont have anyone. when everyone turn their back at you, He for once never left my side. so yes i do believe He exist and He is there for all of us. one has to call Him and He really answers

[cottoncandy]

[size=18px]I DO BELIEVE IN GOD![/size]So as I do believe that I'll never be here if it wasn;t because of HIM. I have to share something I've read bout Inevitabilty of Faith.

Everyone believes in something. No one can endure the stress,anxieties ,perplexities and cares of life without faith in something that cannot ultimately be proven. Atheists cannot prove there is no God. Pantheists cannot prove that everything is God. Pragmatists cannot prove that what will count for them in the future is what works for them now. Nor can agnostics prove that it is impossible to know one way or the other.

Faith is unavoidable, even if we choose to believe only in ourselves. What is to be decided is what evidence we think is pertinent, how we are going to interpret that evidence, and who or what we are willing to believe in (Luke 16:16).

bUt.. Why DO u NeEd SoMe ProoFs??... iF u HaVe this... FAITH!

[Miryam Dipinsor Sanyajo]

cottoncandy, how can you have faith if you don't know the truth? I hope people like you dont represent Christian faith. Many Catholics don't know the truth in their beliefs, they just believe because they have faith. Now that, I do not understand, and that I say is shallow.

[cottoncandy]

cottoncandy, how can you have faith if you don't know the truth? I hope people like you dont represent Christian faith. Many Catholics don't know the truth in their beliefs, they just believe because they have faith. Now that, I do not understand, and that I say is shallow.

I respect your views and every other religion's point of views ....

Im not representing any religion nor did I persuade anybody to believe me... its juz from a Christian's point of view (a Catholic ) .. sumthin Id like to share.

i believe .. because i have faith.. i need no truths... no facts ... no keeeveerr whutsoever~ just MY FAITH! PEACE OUT FRIEND!

[heiwa88]

let's just put it this way. Scientist formulated the Big Bang Theory which states that the world was not created by God rather it came from a big primodial atom that exploded... the question now is, WHO CREATED THE ATOM?

ME...or of all us...we can make ATOM...(MOTA)...FUNNY....

btaw too ko ug GOD oist...

[shoeless_rebel]

i believe in god but the people in the vatican can kiss my a$$...

and i was baptised a christian (heck, my christian name is christian), grew up as an agnostic (my dad is agnostic), had experimented with atheism, hiduism, hari krishna and islam and in the end i found my personal god... (story of my life... geeezzzzz...)