DOG TIPS about breeding , buying and selling

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I kumbinar unsay nindot na ngalan mo come out hehehe .

@ ELARS ... mao sad lage , mismo PCCI walay mahimo but kung ang KCCI mangusog , maski sa CEBU man lang basin naay mahitabo . Mo abot na ang panahon na ang dili na pedigreed ang ang ipang show because mismo ang PCCI paper fake na pod .

[elars]

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I kumbinar unsay nindot na ngalan mo come out hehehe .

@ ELARS ... mao sad lage , mismo PCCI walay mahimo but kung ang KCCI mangusog , maski sa CEBU man lang basin naay mahitabo . Mo abot na ang panahon na ang dili na pedigreed ang ang ipang show because mismo ang PCCI paper fake na pod .

Btaw pero at least gani ron 3x a year na ang dogshow sa Cebu meaning kita pinakadaghan ug dogshow outside Manila. Maglisud ta implement gud ana sad kay maka impose ra ang KCCI sa ila rules and regulations sa mga members ra sad pero if dili member dili cya ka make actions. Lisud gyud kay wala laws gihimo ang atong government para mo protect sa animals. Ang law ra gi pa implement is katong vaccinations ug rabies campaign nla.

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saunz sad daghan kaau magexperimento, ganahan kaau magmix. e.g. poodle x shihtzu = poshit, pug x shih tzu = pugshit, bully x shihtzu = bull_shit. aahh paetz

mau lage ang uban pud dha pagka irresponsible na lng gyd. d man gane on purpose. dli na lng pud mu prevent hay aning mga taohana ^^ hahahaha nya e buy and sell ra ba dyn .. zzzzzzzzzz ^^

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Wa nako kakita ani nga thread dah...Naa raman diay sa sticky dapit,nagcge jud kog pangita..Hayz....

Anyway, I have some inputs here..I found it online..

Below are typical practices of bad breeders. Not all breeders will be guilty of all these
things, but if you are dealing with a breeder with a preponderance of these breeding
practices, you are probably not working with a responsible breeder.

· SELLS MALES FOR LESS MONEY THAN FEMALES. This is because a premium is placed on females
by other "wannabe" breeders to start their own backyard breeding program.
· SELLS "SHOW QUALITY" WHILE THEY NEVER SHOW THEMSELVES. How can you know?
Markings? That only represents about 10% of what makes up a "show quality" dog.
· “BREEDING STOCK COMES FROM HEALTHY LINES” If you are told this, DEMAND PROOF.
· DOGS WHICH ARE BRED BEFORE TWO YEARS OF AGE AND/OR ARE BRED EVERY HEAT CYCLE.
· “BOTH PARENTS ON PREMISES.” Good breeders go out and find the stud dog that best
compliments their bitch. Breeders who tend to be in it "for the money" only, don't want to pay a
stud fee, so they just get a boy and a girl, and whatever they produce, they produce. Also, if they
own several females on only one male. This tells me they are just pumping out puppies - high volume -
high sales - more money in the seller's pocket (this is not an absolute. Some good breeders DO have
the stud dog, but this is not always the case).
· BREEDER DOESN'T FOLLOW UP ON PREVIOUS LITTERS to assure the pups they have produced
are healthy. This is especially important if the puppy seller touts "healthy dogs." If they haven't
bothered to follow up on previous litters, how can they make this claim?
· THE "HEALTH GUARANTEE" SALES PITCH.
· BREEDER DISCOURAGES YOU VISITING THEIR FACILITIES, or “suggests” you meet somewhere
to get your pup. This is often offered as a convenience to you. It is really because the breeder
doesn’t want you to see their kennel.
· PRETTY WEBSITES with lot of cute pictures and flowery language like “Farm raised with love,” or
“we just love our fur babies.” Provides little or no useful information such as pedigrees of parents,
health clearances, breeding philosophy, etc. This is a very crafty and effective way to bamboozle
you as the buyer.
· REQUIRES MONEY UP FRONT before any paperwork (such as pedigree info, contract into, etc) is
provided.
· REQUIRES DEPOSITS (USUALLY NON-REFUNDABLE) BEFORE THEIR BITCH IS BRED OR THE
LITTER IS WHELPED.· SELLS WITHOUT A CONTRACT.
· PUPPIES REGISTERED WITH OTHER THAN AKC REGISTRY. While AKC registration does not
assure a good breeder, NO responsible American breeder uses any other registry. The puppy mill
industry has created many bogus registries to trick buyers. Dogs registered with APR (American
Pet Registry), CKC (Continential Kennel Club, not to be confused with the Canadian Kennel Club, a
legitimate registry), ACA (American Canine Association), AMW (Archive of Merit Worldwide), FIC
(Federation of International Champions), etc, are indicative of a commercial puppy factory.
· DOESN’T ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS. In an effort to confuse you into thinking they are a
responsible breeder, you may be asked to complete a questionnaire, but you won’t be asked any
follow up questions.
· HAS A PAYPAL OR CREDIT CARD SYSTEM SET UP FOR PAYMENT.
· “I JUST BREED NICE PUPPIES FOR NICE PEOPLE.” This is the hallmark of a bad breeder. You
are a nice person, and you want a nice puppy, but not from this breeder. What this REALLY means is,
“I am breeding whatever dogs I can get my hands on, and I am selling them to anyone who comes up
with the cash.”
· BREEDS MULTIPLE BREEDS. Some good breeders may breed one or possibly two other breeds, but
anyone who has more than 4 or 5 different breeds of dogs is making a business out of pumping out
puppies. There is no way this many dogs can be given the attention and care that they need. This is
a puppy factory.
· “CHAMPION BLOODLINES.” This could mean one dog in a 64 dog pedigree has attained a
championship. This also implies that the parents aren’t champions. This is just another trick to fool
you.
· DOES NOT HAVE A LIFETIME RETURN POLICY FOR DOGS OF THEIR BREEDING. Do not
concern themselves with rescue, and take no responsibility for the dogs they have produced once
the sale is done and money has changed hands. These breeders represent a large part of the mess
that purebred rescue groups have to clean up.
· JUST IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS (EASTER/MOTHER’S DAY, ETC)! Good breeders just don’t
market their “merchandise” this way. In fact, ethical breeders strongly discourage giving puppies as
gifts at any time of year. The decision to add a puppy should be made by the entire family, and good
breeders will want to meet with the prospective owners.
These are just a few of the things that would make me suspicious of the motivations of
the breeder. These are examples of what is done by those who don't care about whether
they are breeding physically/orthopedically or temperamentally sound dogs. They just want
to cash in on the breed’s popularity and pocket your money. If your puppy winds up crippled
by hip or elbow displasia, or dies of cancer at 2 or 3 years old, or has a vicious, aggressive
temperament, they really don't care.

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[Ironwood_Cebu]

SELLS "SHOW QUALITY" WHILE THEY NEVER SHOW THEMSELVES. How can you know?

LOL this is so true!

[elars]

SELLS "SHOW QUALITY" WHILE THEY NEVER SHOW THEMSELVES. How can you know?

LOL this is so true!

2nd the motion LOL

[Ironwood_Cebu]

angay ana.. pag-giingnan ka sa seller nga "show quality ni ako mga puppies bay, etc etc"... ang tubag ana - "nagsho-show diay ka bay? asa man dira imu gishow recently?" paksit dayon! LOL

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Quote:Originally Posted by shamankin6
Because in selecting a good foundation bitch or stud should undergo proper evaluation. In my case, everytime I select a good dam candidate for breeding. Make sure the said dam is 100% healthy, fit to the standard of for the breed, FREE from faults or genes, if she is not trained, make sure she has a good character and balance temperament. Because 70% of the dam genes passes to the litter. The only purpose of the stud is to improve and balance the breeding.
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Im not a vet and would like to inquire about the veracity of the statement that 70% of the dam's gene passes to the litter. In the basic genetics of humans , 50% of the gene come from each parent. Is it different with dogs?
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just a followup to the question on the previous statement, with dogs, is it true that 70% of the dam's gene passes to the litter
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This was originally posted at the BM thread but since no veterenarian or anyboby knowledgeable on this topic answered the query, I posted the question here since its related to breeding. Maybe some vets or anybody with scientific or medical background can help since this has a profound impact on breeding.

[Ironwood_Cebu]

Quote:Originally Posted by shamankin6
Because in selecting a good foundation bitch or stud should undergo proper evaluation. In my case, everytime I select a good dam candidate for breeding. Make sure the said dam is 100% healthy, fit to the standard of for the breed, FREE from faults or genes, if she is not trained, make sure she has a good character and balance temperament. Because 70% of the dam genes passes to the litter. The only purpose of the stud is to improve and balance the breeding.
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Im not a vet and would like to inquire about the veracity of the statement that 70% of the dam's gene passes to the litter. In the basic genetics of humans , 50% of the gene come from each parent. Is it different with dogs?
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just a followup to the question on the previous statement, with dogs, is it true that 70% of the dam's gene passes to the litter
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This was originally posted at the BM thread but since no veterenarian or anyboby knowledgeable on this topic answered the query, I posted the question here since its related to breeding. Maybe some vets or anybody with scientific or medical background can help since this has a profound impact on breeding.

maybe guys more knowledgable about canine genetics can shed light on this very good issue... let's wait for them to see this post.

however, what i learn from the short time im into this dog hobby... i know that most of the traits of the puppies come really from the mother... this i discover in the few instances i had my own breeding... the physical traits, the temperaments most of the time, the puppies got it from their mother... so i am pretty sure, 70% (or even more!) really comes from the dam side.