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    Default Re: prostitution to be legalized..Pabor ba mo ani?


    Using a prostitute is very much a moral issue. Personal moral issue gyud.

    It does not even have to tackle the issue of marriage. whether a person is married or not, mangita na gani og prostitute, dili na gyud na gugma kung dili biga ra.

    It is not an issue of Religion or belief as well, but in every Religion, ka kita ba ta nga gi encourage ta mag *** og bisan kinsa? i guess only cults do that in their rituals.

    Prostitution must/should NOT be legalized.

    condoms is another issue mga bro, lets not add another twist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godsaint
    We are talking about prostitution and that you said about your prsonal perspective,your personal morality.Now settng aside religion.Do you think you have personal moral if you are using prostitutes other than your wife?And if you are using condoms,are you using it getting the service of a prosti?Do you think you still have your personal morality?
    if somebody is married and pays for ***, you might say he has low personal morality, but to him maybe not. it depends on the situation, place & culture. maybe he has the consent of his wife...and we can say our morality is higher than him, that of course if assuming he is also a Christian.

    (wat i meant for using condoms is that it is intended for my spouse...is it wrong? the Catholic church says it is wrong.)

    let's just say we take out religion and all those moral codes from the equation, and consider only the feminist and psychological perspective.

    psychological perspective: if a single guy pays for *** and he doesn't get any guilt or conscience at all, then at that person's psychological perspective, he doesn't see the act as immoral. but if he is, he will see it as immoral.

    feminist perspective: in liberal sense, a person could see it only as a private business transaction. the liberal contends that a woman is free to enter into contracts...so if a person is a liberal feminist, she cannot see it as immoral. if she is a radical feminist, it is immoral.

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    its a long process here in the PHILIPPINES for a prosti to be legalized...
    many things to consider, and the church will be the no. 1 to oppose!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Using a prostitute is very much a moral issue. Personal moral issue gyud.

    It does not even have to tackle the issue of marriage. whether a person is married or not, mangita na gani og prostitute, dili na gyud na gugma kung dili biga ra.
    kng moingon ka ug biga, therefore libido, this would put also on the realm of neuroscientific & psychological perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    It is not an issue of Religion or belief as well, but in every Religion, ka kita ba ta nga gi encourage ta mag *** og bisan kinsa? i guess only cults do that in their rituals.
    every religion has their own moral codes...but that doesn't mean cults are "lesser" than us Catholics...Mormonism is a cult...even the movie "Da Vinci Code" depicts the Knights Templar as having some kind of sexual ritual...

    as archbishop cramner said, "every cult is now a religion because no-one is perceived to have the political right or the spiritual authority to tell anyone else what they should or should not believe, or what they may and may not do. Liberty has become a deity."

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Prostitution must/should NOT be legalized.
    says who? and to whom? that statement is relative to time, place, and culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    condoms is another issue mga bro, lets not add another twist.
    i am just mentioning the condom issue to make a point that it is not always our religious morals that dominates a person's decision-making process. sometimes it would take only logical thinking.

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    Default Re: prostitution to be legalized..Pabor ba mo ani?

    maybe he has the consent of his wife
    will there be a wife in her decent mind who would allow or give consent to her husband to take a prostitute?

    psychological perspective: if u r single & u pay for *** and u don't get any guilt or conscience at all, then at that psychological perspective, u don't see the act as immoral.
    is this a psychological perspective? i'd rather think this is still a moral and ethical one.
    i would rather tackle the psychological perspective in another way, reinforcement and/or punishment to influence behavior.

    liberal feminist perspective: in liberal sense, a person could see it only as a private business transaction. the liberal contends that a woman is free to enter into contracts.
    let us not forget that not only women succumb to prostitution. there are male prostitutes as well. i've been following this thread and it seems that greater emphasis is given to female prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maia21
    will there be a wife in her decent mind who would allow or give consent to her husband to take a prostitute?
    this may sound impossible, but yes. try go to France. culture shocked?

    Quote Originally Posted by maia21
    is this a psychological perspective? i'd rather think this is still a moral and ethical one.
    i would rather tackle the psychological perspective in another way, reinforcement and/or punishment to influence behavior.
    as i've mentioned again earlier, prostitution is a morality issue. and a person's morality takes a lot of perspectives: religion, anthropological, neuroscientific & psychiatric, psychological, evolutionary/biological, and political. and with the combination of those perspectives, a person gets his own personal morality...PURE & SIMPLE.

    Quote Originally Posted by maia21
    let us not forget that not only women succumb to prostitution. there are male prostitutes as well. i've been following this thread and it seems that greater emphasis is given to female prostitution.
    of course. you forgot to include male & female children. but female adult prostitutes get the most bulk of the total prostitute population.

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    Default Re: prostitution to be legalized..Pabor ba mo ani?

    [quote=giddyboy ]
    this may sound impossible, but yes. try go to France.

    We are only talking about prostitution only in the Philippines as this thread started.We cannot compare Phlippines to other countries because of the factors you have been mentioned.possible gyud na sa ubang nasod kay makita namn nimo sa ilang ways and attitude.*** for them is like water it's their needs.mamatay ng mga foreigners i dyeta nimo sa ***.hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by godsaint
    We are only talking about prostitution only in the Philippines as this thread started.We cannot compare Phlippines to other countries because of the factors you have been mentioned.possible gyud na sa ubang nasod kay makita namn nimo sa ilang ways and attitude.*** for them is like water it's their needs.mamatay ng mga foreigners i dyeta nimo sa ***.hahaha
    i know that we are talking about prosti in the Phils. but is it a crime to relate this topic to other places and culture?

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    Default Re: prostitution to be legalized..Pabor ba mo ani?

    I did not say so..

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    Default Re: prostitution to be legalized..Pabor ba mo ani?

    this may sound impossible, but yes. try go to France.
    this may be the case because it has been socially acceptable but on a personal level, no wife would want to share her husband with somebody else, much more to a prostitute.

    as i've mentioned again earlier, prostitution is a morality issue[/b]. and a person's morality takes a lot of perspectives: religion, anthropological, neuroscientific & psychiatric, psychological, evolutionary/biological, and political. and [b]with the combination of those perspectives, a person gets his own personal morality...PURE & SIMPLE.
    i do not have any contention with the morality issue and and it's perspectives.

    i am simply trying to point out from your post that your example
    psychological perspective: if u r single & u pay for *** and u don't get any guilt or conscience at all, then at that psychological perspective, u don't see the act as immoral.
    is flawed.
    tell me, by any chance is that from a psychological perspective's point of view?

    of course. you forgot to include male & female children. but female adult prostitutes get the most bulk of the total prostitute population.
    you referring to yourself, giddyboy?

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