Are you supporting federalism, what can you say about BBL?

[yhokz101]

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Is the BIFF or ABU Sayaf asking for more other than complete seccession? Are you in favor of complete seccession? Yes it s not complet assurance for peace, but do you have other alternative if not BBL? Will you give in to the demand of the BIFF, the Islamic state?

out of the question naman nang imong point, complete seccession? Maski kinsa tarung na pilipino nga sakto sa pangisip nganu mo give in man sa ilang demand if mao man gani na dli na reasonable.. wala paman pod ni sila nahimong reasonable ug tarung. Naa naman nang BBL, but not an assurance sa total peace. I just hope MILF as well as MLF will cooperate totally para sa pag sugpo sa BIFF/ASG. Alternative sa BBL as of now considering sa MILF or the MNLF na dli ma deny ilang pwersa dako na jd kau? Sa tinuod wala, kay kung all out war, dli man na epektibo in the long run.. unless dli lang patyon ang amahan, apilon ang asawa, anak ug mga parente. Sa state sa atong govt, ug sa position karon.. wala nay laing pa agi kung dli agreement nalang jd.. OR Federalism system sa pinas, but I know lisod na ni ma implement karon ni panot.

[yhokz101]

Absolutely, that is why I am asking thse other people if BBL is not the solution in Mindanao, what is their alternative solution. They also want the BIFF and ASG to be included in the solution.. haha. For all we know, all these rebel groups are one and united in one ultimate demand, the complete seccession and establishment of one Islamic State, that is the autonomous region.. Is this the kind of solution that Mr. Yhokz wanted?

so by your statement, murag contradicting man sa BBL og sa imong ingon na BBL mao ang key sa peace sa mindanao, paling2x man ka dong... himo2x naman sad kag idea ihatag nimo dir nko? Hahaha! Sa tarung na sulti noh, ato tan-awn ang scenario if ever ma approve ang BBL..maninguha na unta ning MILF apil ang MNLF sa pag supporta sa AFP para ma wala na ning BIFF/ASG. But I doubt it, nganu? Wala man gani sila naka badlong ana nila despite sa ilang pwersa, walay control sa ilang territory, wala silay kakyahan mo unite sa tanan Moro..

[Juan Martinez]

Absolutely, that is why I am asking thse other people if BBL is not the solution in Mindanao, what is their alternative solution. They also want the BIFF and ASG to be included in the solution.. haha. For all we know, all these rebel groups are one and united in one ultimate demand, the complete seccession and establishment of one Islamic State, that is the autonomous region.

so am i getting it right that you believe that the proposed BBL and the establishment of Bangsamoro Government under it will be the answer to the festering milf insurgency in Mindanao. if yes, why you think so?

[Lee Ho Khan]

taga mindanao diay ka brad? nya christianos ka? kay murag dili man tingali.

Kristyano ko brad.. Dli sad jud ko pro to BBL, pero pro-peace ko. Walay hinungdan magpatay ang kapwa pilipino. Ang Malaysia ug China ray malipay ug uban pa nga gusto mo take advantage sa ato turmoil.

[Lee Ho Khan]

ug kung muslim ko brad? naa kay problema ana? Ang topic kay supporting federalism ug BBL, dili about religion

[wireless]

Sa state sa atong govt, ug sa position karon.. wala nay laing pa agi kung dli agreement nalang jd.. OR Federalism system sa pinas, but I know lisod na ni ma implement karon ni panot.

Migawas na gyud ang... haha..Federalism ra gyud kuno ang solution.. At last Yhokz admitted and I congratulate you for that. No more arguing... however, there is one thing that you did not understand...Once Federalism is completely applied to the whole nation, may i ask you what will happen to the ARMM region? Or what will become of the ARMM?

[yhokz101]

Migawas na gyud ang... haha..Federalism ra gyud kuno ang solution.. At last Yhokz admitted and I congratulate you for that. No more arguing... however, there is one thing that you did not understand...Once Federalism is completely applied to the whole nation, may i ask you what will happen to the ARMM region? Or what will become of the ARMM?

wala man cguro ka kahibaw asa ko stand, of course dri ko sa Federalism if gustohon jd wad-on ang BBL and apply total Federalism. Nothing is a real solution contrary sa imong imong na solution, just as you know but this is better than the current system and this is in line with what the MILF/MNLF wants but the whole idea is not only limited to certain part sa Philipines but as a whole. Dli man assurance na thru federalism ma attain ang total peace sa mindanao.. mao nay gi ingon na cross your fingers and hope for the best nga dli mo blowback. ARMM region will become one state as per system sa federalism.. same sa ubang mga part sa Philippines, what about it?

[Lee Ho Khan]

Unta kung madaun ning Federalism ug mag iya2x na ang mga States, dli unta mo erupt ang conflict between states. Hopefully parehas ta sa "United States of America"... united..

[wireless]

wala man cguro ka kahibaw asa ko stand, of course dri ko sa Federalism if gustohon jd wad-on ang BBL and apply total Federalism. Nothing is a real solution contrary sa imong imong na solution, just as you know but this is better than the current system and this is in line with what the MILF/MNLF wants but the whole idea is not only limited to certain part sa Philipines but as a whole. Dli man assurance na thru federalism ma attain ang total peace sa mindanao.. mao nay gi ingon na cross your fingers and hope for the best nga dli mo blowback. ARMM region will become one state as per system sa federalism.. same sa ubang mga part sa Philippines, what about it?

Very good. ARMM will become a federal state, "the federal state of Bangsamoro". And i am asking what is your alternative solution for Mindanao peace if not thru BBL, and your reply is for ARMM to become a "federal state". And when this happens, the BIFF and Abu Sayaf will abandon their hope for complete independence and the Islamic State because ARMM now has become a fedral state of Bangsamoro, this is your alternative solution. For my part I say since our country is not yet fderal and charter change is necessary for this to happen, my alternative solution is to create a substate in BBL, a form of federal state once the country becomes fderal. You disagreed its not the solution but federalism of the whole country. Is that your position of the matter.

[yhokz101]

Very good. ARMM will become a federal state, "the federal state of Bangsamoro". And i am asking what is your alternative solution for Mindanao peace if not thru BBL, and your reply is for ARMM to become a "federal state". And when this happens, the BIFF and Abu Sayaf will abandon their hope for complete independence and the Islamic State because ARMM now has become a fedral state of Bangsamoro, this is your alternative solution. For my part I say since our country is not yet fderal and charter change is necessary for this to happen, my alternative solution is to create a substate in BBL, a form of federal state once the country becomes fderal. You disagreed its not the solution but federalism of the whole country. Is that your position of the matter.

let's be clear, solution for what? unsa man na solution for ang imong gi pasabot diri? murag tuyok na pod ta ani padung..