MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[Hammer_and_Sickle]

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for gays, i think for them,marriage these days, are just for fashion,... gays love fashion, that's why they want to push a damn bill, that would help them to achieve this fashion and make it as trend in the pinas, and you know, what fashion happens, after years pass by, it will change and becomes obsolete, that's where, divorce will come in, now that's a complete package for you

because if it's not fashion for them (gays in pinas)..., i mean, they've existed and lived their lives with few problems, like the heterosexuals who haved lived their lives too,.so why need, same *** marriage?..it will just cost you (gays), pain in your arse,

i think gays in Philppines are lucky, coz they don't have the chance of getting married, and chance a to face some problems that would occur after marriage..., like raising kids (kids nowadays are fu*ked up,you know what i mean),....having 7 year itch, having extra-marital affairs LOL, facing the consequence of a condom burst, oh wait sorry, that's not included,...so, gays, don't be sad, if there would be no, same-*** marriage in this country,..other countries would do that for you, hahahahaha

[yiennahs]

for gays, i think for them,marriage these days, are just for fashion,... gays love fashion, that's why they want to push a damn bill, that would help them to achieve this fashion and make it as trend in the pinas, and you know, what fashion happens, after years pass by, it will change and becomes obsolete, that's where, divorce will come in, now that's a complete package for you

because if it's not fashion for them (gays in pinas)..., i mean, they've existed and lived their lives with few problems, like the heterosexuals who haved lived their lives too,.so why need, same *** marriage?..it will just cost you (gays), pain in your arse,

i think gays in Philppines are lucky, coz they don't have the chance of getting married, and chance a to face some problems that would occur after marriage..., like raising kids (kids nowadays are fu*ked up,you know what i mean),....having 7 year itch, having extra-marital affairs LOL, facing the consequence if a condom would burst, oh wait sorry, that's not included,...so, gays, don't be sad, if there would be no, same-*** marriage in this country,..other countries would do that for you, hahahahaha

i think they want this marriage because they want to be accepted... it's like this is a way for them feel that the world accepts them and their existence

they are still humans, sometimes lang i feel that their libido is bigger compared to others as well as their emotions

[amingb]

Gays are Accepted in Philippine Society but ang ilahang ka laswaan dili accepted ....

Naay kataw-anan nga issue nga sa mga Public CR puede rapud daw sila sa mga Girl ...

[Hammer_and_Sickle]

i think they want this marriage because they want to be accepted... it's like this is a way for them feel that the world accepts them and their existence

they are still humans, sometimes lang i feel that their libido is bigger compared to others as well as their emotions

yeah,,...but, here's the deal ha,..if you have observed on your neighborhood,...
contemporary gays, are accepted na mn, compare sa mga predecessors nila,looy kaayu..

example:
before ang isa ka, amahan, mahebaw-an gani na bayot si junior, kulatahon kada-adlaw, but sa karun, malipay na, madawat na tawn,...

(ge-example na nako, ka'y in a family is where, the molding of a future contributor of a decaying country will happen, wala ta kahebaw, osa ka-gay ang mag-dala sa pinas sa future, then iyang ma-pa nindot ang pinas)

kahebaw ka nganu madawat na sila? ka'y kahebaw ang sila, na inig ka tiguwang, nila,...ang anak nila nabayot mao ang mo-take care nila, ka'y dili mn maminyo, then maayu pud mangita ug kwarta, de sad mamabdos,..

[yiennahs]

Gays are Accepted in Philippine Society but ang ilahang ka laswaan dili accepted ....

Naay kataw-anan nga issue nga sa mga Public CR puede rapud daw sila sa mga Girl ...

i think there is still discrimination though...
but what is more intriguing is the fact that bisexuals are increasing in number...
i wonder how this happens...
i would also like to know why most gays are very sexually active
i have read ganeh sa super balita about katung gay nga gi-anal ang 14 y.o. for 50 pesos?! unbelievable. what's worse is that the writer described it in a very detailed manner

i guess it's difficult as of now for this gay marriage to be true (you know being accepted by Catholics)
anyways, pur country has a lot of problems pa than dealing with this

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Hmmmm... reply lang ko ani fafi ha. Mura'g layo raman gud ang analogy sa RAPE sa same *** marriage, if that's what you imply. Dili man nato matawag ug crime ang same *** marriage kay it's just a union between two same *** couple and it doesn't do any harm even to those people who are NOT involved.

Its a form of comparison when we talk about ADDING INSULT na by far for has to use RAPE as an analogy because if perfectly fits the description . Ang BAYOT , kahibalo na ta na BAYOT kay nagpakabayot pa gyud . Sa RAPE , both are HEINOUS CRIMES yet you will root for the rapist who committed it na ang victim niya are minors . Like I said , if there is something bitaw mas taas pa sa level sa BAYOT which synonymous to being HEINOUS , mao na siya but thera is no term for it . Description lang .

That's still not enough ground for not legalizing same *** marriage in the Philippines. If the majority of the people support same *** marriage, then by all means, LEGALIZE it even if it means going against the teachings of the Church. Do we still have to remind ourselves on the separation between Church and state?

I could really care less if they get married in the courts . As long as they dont disrespect the SACREDNESS of the SACRAMENT of HOLY MATRIMONY . Getitng married sa korte is totally different .

OT: I don't understand why the word "S3X" is censored in iStorya? Hehehe anything you can do about this fafi?

Gi generalalize na lang ni siya cguro aron dili ma abuso hehe .

@FAQ ...

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know the word CULT . Care to explain as to why they're are CULT ?

You're trying to change the subject now , about the BIBLE not mentioned on the books ?! Loooooool . The word BIBLE came from the Latin word "biblia" , traced from Middle Latin and Late Latin and wasn't used the term by the Christians until AD 223 - obviousssssly AFTER THOSE COLLECTION OF BOOKS WERE WRITTEN AND PRINTED .

Dont give me the idea that you are screwing up . I have been asking you to visit their site , know what cult's definition etc and here you are telling me to explain it to you ? Well , unless you dont know what it means then I will do it on my next repy to you . For the moment , you are on your own unless you will tell me that that you dot know what it is .

Based from your explanation , you are trying to act like the all knowing historian you always claimed to be but still messes it up . Mr. FAQ , you are not getting the drift here , why dont you reflect again the word CULT lage and visit their WEBSITE . The moment gani na mo spoonfeed nako nimo , it would become an INSULT to you na because you cant be on the same page and here you tlaking different things .

Ummmm no . I see what you're doing here , unless you're really completely dumb , you're trying to hijack the whole topic which is an indication you're losing footing on this debate . Let me rephrase it , I argued that there are animals who practice homosexuality and even bisexuality - obviously there are animals of the same type who aren't - therefore ATTRACTION has something to do with nature and not something that they choose to be since animals don't have rational thoughts . Whereas for human beings , we have rational thoughts , but most rely on religion that coercively dictates their way of life or what society expects us to do . Since humans have rational thoughts , they're free to choose to do whether he/she'll do what society or religion tells him to do or not to do .

How did you know that those animals who are the same type didnt practice homosexuality and bisexuality ? Did you live with them their whole ? That they arent ATTRACTED at all ? Based on what study ? Ayaw ko ug ingna ha ANIMAL PSYCHOLOGIST or VETERINARY naka karon ha kay di ra ba gyud lol . Forumer ra ka lol .

Ayaw lage apila ang RELIGION kay dili RELIGION ang factor ngano naay MORALS and CONSCIENCE that separates what is RIGHT and what is WRONG . Are you clearly indicating now that ATHEIST both hard and soft are being mandated by the very factor they completely dont acknowledge at all ?

Dont forget that the keyword here is RATIONAL and not HUMAN BEINGS nor ANIMALS .

Gay & lesbian couples are actually married through COURT MARRIAGE - at least here . I don't know in the Philippines since the country is still under construction (I hope it's not under destruction) . If same s3x marriage is a sin then don't let a couple be married if a bride is pregnant or has kid(s) since pre-marital s3x is prohibited in the bible under no circumstances in the first place . Strangely enough , it's a common practice there . Pffffft !

Again you are twisting arguments just so you can established your points that will never be realized because it is baseless . First , they are MARRIED outside the church . They are legally married in courts , who cares ? Thats the very reason why they cant marry using the church ceremonies since mag lisod gani sila ug apply for marriage license in civil courts . Now you are trying to manipulate something of an understanding in the bible which has basis from the church . If that GAY or LESBIAN repents and chose to go back its own natural and normal ways , they can be forgiven . We dont know because only God can judge us but atleast thats what the bible says . Second , those females who got pregnant already committed a sin in Christian doctrines yet if nag minyo siya , it helps making up somethign she lost . A real FAMILY by establishing it through the union .

There are married same s3x couples who are happy together and there are couples who are not - which is also the same thing for "straight" couples . Comparing same s3x to straight couples is like comparing apples and oranges . Both are fundamentally different . Not only you're deluded on your religion , I'm shocked to learn that you're also deluded on FAIRY TALES . Loooooool ...

Divorce is another topic .

That is because we will be rooting your issues about the word COUPLES . Pairing something what works and what fails . Gets na nimo ? I am not deluded , you only thought of it because its an excuse of your weak comprehension skills .

yes there are HOMOSEXUALS that are happilly married . How long have they been married gani ? Thats what I thought mr. FAQ .

Divorce is another topic ? Man , dont even start , wala pa ka nahuman sa MARRIAGE lol .

So why Christians still cutting their hair , still wearing more than one cloth , masturbating , engage in pre-marital s3x , working on Sabbath Day (OMG , this is punishable by death!) if it's indeed "plain WRONG" ?!

Huh ? Dont let your IGNORANCE overcome your EMOTIONS that you desperately throws things to CHRISTIANS . Actually to all people who you are trying to identify your miscalculations . I am sure that these are not only about Christians , imohang gi single out lang just because for the mere reason that dili nimo madawat ang MORALS and CONSCIENCE who mandates everything what is right and what is wrong mapa ATHEIST or THEIST pa ka .

[ricoy69]

ang vocal na hinoon kaau sa mga binuhatan sa mga bayot mao na hinoon nabayot ... bali najud ning kalibotan ...

ang kining mga tawo nga protective kaau sa mga binuhatan sa mga bayot pa dude2x pa, unsa may kasulti ninyo sa mga tawong ingon ana ....

ang mga tawong ingon ana parihason sa panahon ni Moses and sa Communist Party ... aron wala nay mga bayot ...

Kay ang kanang mga tawong ganahan anang Parihas naay Tumoy nga mag minyo .. mao nay Klarong wa kasabot sa ilaha Identity ......

Thank you for your defensive answer. For the record, I did not say nga ganahan ko sahomo marriage. What Im talking about is that I dont really care. Yot, este Bro, ngano diay kontra diay ka sa mga bayot? kung hugaw sila, kung daotan man sila, you don't have the inch to judge them kay at the end of our lives we all face God, individually. So its for God to balance things. Just notice sa imong mga prejudicial post. Its okay to disagree sa topic just say it nicely.

Dont you know that study shows nga ang number one sign sa usa ka closet nga bayot kay kanang pagkahomophobic?

Curious lang ko, diin diay ka kahibalo aning "bersatin" bro? hahaha

[FAQ]

Dont give me the idea that you are screwing up . I have been asking you to visit their site , know what cult's definition etc and here you are telling me to explain it to you ? Well , unless you dont know what it means then I will do it on my next repy to you . For the moment , you are on your own unless you will tell me that that you dot know what it is .

Based from your explanation , you are trying to act like the all knowing historian you always claimed to be but still messes it up . Mr. FAQ , you are not getting the drift here , why dont you reflect again the word CULT lage and visit their WEBSITE . The moment gani na mo spoonfeed nako nimo , it would become an INSULT to you na because you cant be on the same page and here you tlaking different things .

I went to their website . Their new website got closed but the old one is still working . I still firm on my belief that it's not a cult . But you still have to explain to me as to why they are cult ...

Don't try telling me that I'm "screwing up" . Based on our previous threads , you're the one who is !

Naa pa'y imong question ngano ang word "bible" wala gi-mention sa Genesis to Revelations ... Pffffft !! step up your game dude ...

How did you know that those animals who are the same type didnt practice homosexuality and bisexuality ? Did you live with them their whole ? That they arent ATTRACTED at all ? Based on what study ? Ayaw ko ug ingna ha ANIMAL PSYCHOLOGIST or VETERINARY naka karon ha kay di ra ba gyud lol . Forumer ra ka lol .

Your response is clearly an indication that you must been slacking in high-school ... Maybe your school didn't teach you about this ... oh , you went to a SEMINARY then nooooo wonder you have to resort on false analogy . Looooool ..

Yeah forumer ra ko . Ikaw , kusinero !! Pfffffffffffffffft !!!

Ayaw lage apila ang RELIGION kay dili RELIGION ang factor ngano naay MORALS and CONSCIENCE that separates what is RIGHT and what is WRONG . Are you clearly indicating now that ATHEIST both hard and soft are being mandated by the very factor they completely dont acknowledge at all ?

Ummmmm you said the sins written in the Bible was "mandated by the MORALS and CONSCIENCE" . You're so contradicting ... Looooool ...

Dont forget that the keyword here is RATIONAL and not HUMAN BEINGS nor ANIMALS .

Again you are twisting arguments just so you can established your points that will never be realized because it is baseless . First , they are MARRIED outside the church . They are legally married in courts , who cares ? Thats the very reason why they cant marry using the church ceremonies since mag lisod gani sila ug apply for marriage license in civil courts . Now you are trying to manipulate something of an understanding in the bible which has basis from the church . If that GAY or LESBIAN repents and chose to go back its own natural and normal ways , they can be forgiven . We dont know because only God can judge us but atleast thats what the bible says . Second , those females who got pregnant already committed a sin in Christian doctrines yet if nag minyo siya , it helps making up somethign she lost . A real FAMILY by establishing it through the union .

Yes , homos3xual , lesbians , and bisexuals have RATIONAL THOUGHTS and it's up to them if they follow or ignore what society expects them to do or follow what's in the plagiarized holy book , hence they have rational thoughts . I hope ya "get the drift" ...

That is because we will be rooting your issues about the word COUPLES . Pairing something what works and what fails . Gets na nimo ? I am not deluded , you only thought of it because its an excuse of your weak comprehension skills .

yes there are HOMOSEXUALS that are happilly married . How long have they been married gani ? Thats what I thought mr. FAQ .

Resorting on FALSE ANALOGY !!!! Loooool .. And how long same s3x marriage has been recognized as legal ? Thaaat's what I thought mr line-cooker , este "chef" !

Divorce is another topic ? Man , dont even start , wala pa ka nahuman sa MARRIAGE lol . Huh ? Dont let your IGNORANCE overcome your EMOTIONS that you desperately throws things to CHRISTIANS . Actually to all people who you are trying to identify your miscalculations . I am sure that these are not only about Christians , imohang gi single out lang just because for the mere reason that dili nimo madawat ang MORALS and CONSCIENCE who mandates everything what is right and what is wrong mapa ATHEIST or THEIST pa ka .

Yeah ok ... Your answer doesn't make sense at all ... which is a desperate attept to avoid the topic . Soooo obvious !!!!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I went to their website . Their new website got closed but the old one is still working . I still firm on my belief that it's not a cult . But you still have to explain to me as to why they are cult ...

You still missed something . You are screwing up big time . I told you that before I have to explain to you why they are a cult you have to affirm first to me that you dont have the slightest clue on what is a CULT .

Don't try telling me that I'm "screwing up" . Based on our previous threads , you're the one who is !

Alangan naa ba kawatan mo angkon na nangawat siya . All you can do is point fingers mah man .

Naa pa'y imong question ngano ang word "bible" wala gi-mention sa Genesis to Revelations ... Pffffft !! step up your game dude ...

See how SCREWING UP gets twisted ? Samot ka liko dong ! Lol . if I have to spoonfeed this for the nth time , adding insult to the injury will be on you now because nagpaka aron ingnon ka yet simple kaayo na text di niom ma gets . Just let me know if you want me na pasabton pa jud ka but you know the consequences .

Your response is clearly an indication that you must been slacking in high-school ... Maybe your school didn't teach you about this ... oh , you went to a SEMINARY then nooooo wonder you have to resort on false analogy . Looooool ..

Its a predictable reply from you and I know you that you will resort to it . The sad fact is , it is a DESPERATE MOVE . You know whats up .

Yeah forumer ra ko . Ikaw , kusinero !! Pfffffffffffffffft !!!

At least wala ko nanghinambog na maayo and lami ko mo luto . Ikaw nagpaka hero na man ka sa HISTORY nimo unya gikan ra sa GOOGLE diay so palpak diay ka na historian lol .

Ummmmm you said the sins written in the Bible was "mandated by the MORALS and CONSCIENCE" . You're so contradicting ... Looooool ...

What is so contradicting about it ? Ikaw ba FAQ ... before you use words gani and play with it , make sure its not satiric because kataw-anan ang kagawsan nimo ana . You love to play with words yet you dont know what the words represent nor mean .

GOD gave us MORALS and CONSCIENCE for us to be better judges . The GOOD and the BAD existed because of the MORALS and CONSCIENCE . Predictable na pod kaayo ka FAQ ... you will reply na pod na when the 10 commandments came out , it was not written and has no basis because GOD gave it straight to Moses . LMFAO !

Yes , homos3xual , lesbians , and bisexuals have RATIONAL THOUGHTS and it's up to them if they follow or ignore what society expects them to do or follow what's in the plagiarized holy book , hence they have rational thoughts . I hope ya "get the drift" ...

Wrong na pod ka FAQ . The HOMOSEXUALS have RATIONAL THINKING so as for them to decide for themselves because they exactly know what they are doing . Now if they decide to do that , it comes with a consequence wether this is good or bad .

Not because they have to rely from the society nor the bible for ACCEPTANCE or REJECTION . Thats where MORALS and CONSCIENCE comes in as a basis , guide , etc to define themselves that they are indeed not ANIMALS .

Resorting on FALSE ANALOGY !!!! Loooool .. And how long same s3x marriage has been recognized as legal ? Thaaat's what I thought mr line-cooker , este "chef" !

You are on the other side of the fence now mr. FAQ . Why are insinuating now the effectivity of the SAME S3X MARRIAGE from its existence ? How about you let us know since when ni siya na legal when in fact , if you insist that a couple can also be of the same s3x doesnt need marriage to live happilly ever after . Kinsay " couple " na bayot and tomboy ni lahutay ba lage ? WALA , NADA , BETLOG , ZERO because it lacks something from what is NATURAL and NORMAL .

Dili ba matod nmo panahon pa sa MING DYNASTY ? LOL ! Pa MING MING pa ka haha !

Yeah ok ... Your answer doesn't make sense at all ... which is a desperate attept to avoid the topic . Soooo obvious !!!!

What is obvious , you resorted to NONSENSE replies . People know who avoided the topic .

People know my stand . Wether they like it or not , it wont change for now . How about you MR. HISTORIAN FAQ ? Kutob ra ka sa diversion , nonsense and out of this world analysis ? I know ga lagot lgot na ka nako . There should be no reason at all why maglagot if straight ka lol .

[diday1019]

maypa undangon nalang ning thread kung mag away-away ra. heheehe peace ninyo tanan. chill lang mo gud.