Legalize Abortion?

[yhokz101]

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i understand you view on promiscuity.. try looking at the media right now.. they are actually sensationalizing s3x.. try looking at new music videos or movies... its heavily s3x-oriented which makes the young people curious about it.. add it with ignorance and you get a disaster waiting to happen..

by educating them about it, they are more likely to make wiser decisions...with proper knowledge, the mystical effects of s3x as portrayed by the media is dispelled..

it is only natural for them to be curious about it.. and its our responsibility as parents or teachers to educate them on what is real and unbiased facts..

i totally agree with you on this...

[mannyamador]

sir the church should not interfere with the state! and besides not every filipino shares the same belief and religion as u do..

The principle separation of Church and state is clearly defined in our Constitution. It means ONLY the following:

• The government cannot establish a state reliugion; and
  
  
• the government cannot interfere in the free exercise of religion.

I would like to pint out that There is absolutely no prohibition whatsoever in the Constitution against the Church (or any Filipino, for that matter) engaging or "meddling" in politics or the affairs of the state. The affairs of the state is the business of EVERY FILIPINO -- including the clergy.

If anyone disagrees, could you then kindly quote any provision in the Philippine Constitution that says the Church cannot engage in politics or have a say in the affiars of the state? The Constitution is the basis, after all.

There ISN'T any such prohibition in the Philippine Constitution. Any Filipino -- priest or otherwise -- can "meddle" in the affairs of the state. That is, in fact, their right and duty.

The RH/Abortion bill isn't really about educating people about sexuality. It is about forcing a particular view of sexuality on ALL schools, whether or not this view agrees with the moral or rfeligious principles of these education institutions. The bill explicitly imposes a mandatory s3x-ed curriculum and neither the schools or parents have any say in whether children should be forced to to attend.

Now that is not education. That is state control of information -- in other words, government indoctrination.

This is another purely secular (non-religious) reason to reject the RH/Abortion bill.

[AmorsoloX]

The RH/Abortion bill isn't really about educating people about sexuality. It is about forcing a particular view of sexuality on ALL schools, whether or not this view agrees with the moral or rfeligious principles of these education institutions. The bill explicitly imposes a mandatory s3x-ed curriculum and neither the schools or parents have any say in whether children should be forced to to attend.

Now that is not education. That is state control of information -- in other words, government indoctrination.

parehas ra na sa simbahan.. gusto nila sila ra mag control sa information.. much worse, they only have stone-age information.. atleast sa gobierno, modern and scientific..

so.. like filipino and english subjects are forced into us because its part of the curriculum? is that government indoctrination? whats bad about that? its not like the government is forcing a belief system into people..

or maybe thats the problem coz u guys want to shove catholicism down our throats but the govt isnt doing that... all the church's bitching is just about power play on who holds the cards.. the church doesnt give sh!t if there are babies being aborted..

kung mo care pa jud ni ang simbahan as they are really preaching.. wala tana mga street urchins magsuroy2x sa simbahan..

kini mga tao sa simbahan mo saludo ko.. maau au mo storya.. pero mao lage.. storya ra ta man...they cant practice what they preach..

the only ones forcing their beliefs here is the catholic church... the govt. is jus dessiminating impartial information as it should be and giving the poor access such information and services....


because we are discussing bout schools, might as well raise the question bout teaching the theory of evolution in science classes.. i heard it was against your teachings....

[mannyamador]

parehas ra na sa simbahan.. gusto nila sila ra mag control sa information

You are wrong. Unlike the gtovernment, the Church cannot force children to attend and it cannot force other schools to adopt their curriculum.

The RH/Abortion bill, however, DOES FORCE children to take up the mandatory curriculum and DOES FORCE schools to teach it. Those who refuse can be jailed and fined. The Church cannot do that.

There is a huge difference.

so.. like filipino and english subjects are forced into us because its part of the curriculum? is that government indoctrination? whats bad about that? its not like the government is forcing a belief system into people.

That's because teaching english does not force a school to violate its own moral principles. Neother does it force a parent to teach something against their religious belief.

Forcing kids to take up only ONE mandatory s3x-ed currciculum, however. DOES force schools to viuolate their own moral principles and may contradict the religious beliefs of parents. You have conveniently ignored this important distinction.

the govt. is jus dessiminating impartial information as it should be and giving the poor access such information and services.

Wrong. The text of the RH/Abortion bill cleaely contradicts your false claim. The bill tries to force down our throats the radical sexual mores and population control ideology of foreign NGOs.

That population control ideology is NOT impartial

If the RH/Abortion bill's authors really wanted to deliver impartial information then the bill would allow other groups (such as schools, churches, parents, and research organizations) to determine the correct information (both scientific and moral) and create their own curriculum. But the bill DOES NOT even allow that basic freedom.

because we are discussing bout schools, might as well raise the question bout teaching the theory of evolution in science classes.. i heard it was against your teachings

As usual, you heard WRONG. Please try reading up on the actual doctrines of the Church before making such ignorant statements. Try reading the Catechism.

[AmorsoloX]

You are wrong. Unlike the gtovernment, the Church cannot force children to attend and it cannot force other schools to adopt their curriculum.

The RH/Abortion bill, however, DOES FORCE children to take up the mandatory curriculum and DOES FORCE schools to teach it. Those who refuse can be jailed and fined. The Church cannot do that.

That's because teaching english does not force a school to violate its own moral principles. Neother does it force a parent to teach something against their religious belief.

Forcing kids to take up only ONE mandatory s3x-ed currciculum, however. DOES force schools to viuolate their own moral principles and may contradict the religious beliefs of parents. You have conveniently ignored this important distinction.

Wrong. The text of the RH/Abortion bill cleaely contradicts your false claim. The bill tries to force down our throats the radical sexual mores and population control ideology of foreign NGOs.

That population control ideology is NOT impartial

If the RH/Abortion bill's authors really wanted to deliver impartial information then the bill would allow other groups (such as schools, churches, parents, and research organizations) to determine the correct information (both scientific and moral) and create their own curriculum. But the bill DOES NOT even allow that basic freedom.

As usual, you heard WRONG. Please try reading up on the actual doctrines of the Church before making such ignorant statements. Try reading the Catechism.

thats y the church is bitching bout this coz it doesnt have the real power to do so.. it can only say "listen to us or go to hell".. what a crapload... it just wants influence..

whats wrong with that.. thats how education should be taught. without regards to any religion, creed, or race.. thats good... unlike the church which only teaches abstinence.. atleast the state offers other options..

oh really? so you are in favor of teaching the children superstition rather than science or sound scientific theories.. oh boy...

its impartial, by allowing other groups such as the catholic church to call the shots then it becomes one-sided by favoring one religious/political group over another...

as already seen.. religious orgs have the tendency to twist/bend facts to suit their agendas.. so lesson learned. why give it to these selfish idiots...

how can the children learn from their parents if their parents dont know a damn thing bout family planning in the first place? what if the child comes from a broken family?

teach everyone about anything.. do not withheld from them information.. teach them abstinence, teach them condoms, teach them rythm method, teach them everything... let them decide.. that is democracy!

the church is so anti-democracy here.. they only want the people to choose their preferred method.. they dont want the people to learn about other ways..

[Ityan]

Legalizing abortion? Tabla ra nag pwede rata mu patay ug tao.. pffftt.. A BIG no! Mao na.. Boys and Girls. Dont play with your toys..

[armsmenion]

tsk2, illegal jud ni xa bai

[armsmenion]

bai sayang kaayu ang kinabuhi if mag abort.

[armsmenion]

blessing mana bai if incase ma sipyat or unsa, its life that we are dealing with

[armsmenion]

what if ikaw to bi tsk sakit jud bai dealing with