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  1. #191

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    in terms of interpreting biblical verses bro, since you said that Catholics have practices that are non-biblical and pagan as what the bible says...
    how do you interpret the bible verses break? how did you know that those certain verses should be interpreted as such?
    It can be interpreted word for word or by context. Bro, some are biblical but forbidden.
    Bisan kinsa tingali bro with an honest heart, makaingon jud it’s against the word of God. You cannot find anywhere in the bible that Christians bow down to any saints/pope/any creature which honor and such act is due only to God alone.

    Is worship of saints / Mary biblical?

    Even angels are not worthy of it….
    Revelation 19:10
    At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus."

    How about the image like the obelisk na mention on the other thread…..
    Leviticus 26:1
    "Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."

    Deuteronomy 12:2-3
    "Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. "

    what is your sole basis for your biblical truths break? nga para nimu sayop man jud ang RCC..
    As promised by God, I believe that the Holy Spirit is able to lead the believers to the truth. Im not saying sayop jud bro but there are some practices that contradicts the bible. That’s one reason tingali wala gi encourage ang pagbasi ana.

    how sure are you in terms of percentage, that the RCC practices takes root from paganism and are non-biblical?
    Sa akong giingon dili tanan…50-50 for me… Daghan kayong butang bro walay idea ang membro of whats inside the Vatican. What do you think about these symbols?

    Roman Catholic Church Pagan Pt 1 - YouTube

    speaking of the truth of Jesus Christ, are you sure that Jesus sees RCC the same way that you do?
    i hope you can answer me accordingly and in specifics break. Thank You.
    I don’t know bro. What I’ve known, the Lord’s concern is to the believers not religion nor the papacy to gain more power. Kung napang Ginoo sa panahon pagsabot ni Apostle Peter ug sa next pope, dili jud sya kauyon kay tingali wa maapil ang “feed my sheep, feed my lambs” pagtudlo kay kung atong tan-awn, dili man spiritual health for the catholics ang mas priority sa pope instead possessing much wealth which is evident sa Vatican. There are lots of warnings in the bible encouraging the Christian believers to be sober and vigilant and to come out of Babylon!

    Revelation 18
    King James Version (KJV)
    18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
    4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    These are only my opinion, hope you won’t get offended bro! God bless.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 03-28-2013 at 03:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    sorry bro, exhausting lang kaayo ning "who's the right religion" or "who's the better Christian" nga scenario gud...
    PLUS i label atong pagtuo ug unsa na diha...may unta tog insakto...or naay generally accepted or divinely verified nga proof..
    ang proof kay puro ra kaugalingon ug denominational scripture interpretation...unya mu ingun nga mao nay truth 'cause the bible says so...
    YES, no disputes about the BIble as God's word..BUT the interpretation? unless the interpretation is rooted with something SOLID
    then unsa may basis sa maong interpretation? HOW is it that one can consider His/her personal interpretation on biblical accounts as TRUTH?
    nga personal gani...

    sorry jud, pero sahay exhausting lang jud kaayo...kining mga klaseng diskorse...PERTING KATAWA sa YAWA.

    bow! Lol
    pause sa ta gamay bro.....proceed ta with Saint Peter.
    normal raman ni bro but kasabot ra ko sa mga reactions coz sometimes truth hurts. Naa ra nato if we're willing to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    unsay proof nimo bro sa imong giingon nga kamatuoran?
    ....kumusta manka bro @jovs? miss u.
    the written word....how about sa imong secret bro? hhehehe
    Last edited by Breakeven; 03-28-2013 at 03:06 AM.

  4. #194

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    Peter went to Rome with his rooster.

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    Anyway I will rephrase the topic: Did Peter went to Rome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Maayo untag inana ato prinsipyo bro.
    I think Not, because most of us are born to defend our religion. Because that's what most religious leaders will tell us, that WE are correct THEY are wrong. Instead of encouraging its members to THINK and search for answers, they will teach you NOT to question the authority of the Church but only defend its doctrines.

    If you will Start your quest for Truth by Defending what you have, I think you're in the wrong direction
    Last edited by SioDenz; 03-28-2013 at 09:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSunKing View Post
    Yes bro, for sure, mangahoy jud na sila sa Bibliya nga gi-compile sa mga Catolico.

    It was even the Catholic monks who divided the books into Chapters and verses.... so that even Protestants aka bible christians who hate the Catholic Church so much would have an easier way of quoting the Bible. LOL.

    Back to topic...
    Compiling the Bible does not mean you created the Message in the Bible. Even if wala pa tong Monks, God will find a way to spread his word.

    Ang problema ana is naay maka prove nga imung doctrina gisunod wala or nahisupak sa Libro nga imung gi compile.

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    If they had invented the Passport system during that time, we will Not have this discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    I think Not, because most of us are born to defend our religion. Because that's what most religious leaders will tell us, that WE are correct THEY are wrong. Instead of encouraging its members to THINK and search for answers, they will teach you NOT to question the authority of the Church but only defend its doctrines.

    If you will Start your quest for Truth by Defending what you have, I think you're in the wrong direction

    It is the duty of every Christian to DEFEND the Truth no matter what.

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    @ SIODENZ ....

    It would really matter because the compilations of the library of books only limits the collection into just 73 books . Are you aware pila ka libro ni exist atong panahuna ? Heck even thousands siguro . It was the Catholics who chose , decided , approves , and asserts what rightfully belongs to the Holy Bible of course guided and inspired by the Holy Ghost.

    When traditions are practiced , it was based solely on the acts of those early Christians and church fathers who has gone before us , people who are now in Heaven , messengers of God , prophets etc.

    Saying God will find a away is also a ridiculous statement from your end . You know that .

    Diha man mo naigo sa inyohang SOLA SCRIPTURA , Dont question the doctrines of other people when you guys cant questioned yourselves kung sakto ba ang inyohang personal interpretations .

    @ BREAKEVEN ....

    The truth hurts can only apply if the ATTEMPTS to DISCREDIT still continue up to this day .

    I would understand now that di namo ganahan mangutana sa pikas thread because mag lisod man ug move on kasagaran ang mga non- Catholic Chritians because ipamugos man ang personal point of views and not what is affirmed.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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