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    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion


    naunsa naman ning atong mga mambabalaud oi...

    tungod ni sa ilang kabright?...

  2. #192

    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

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    Masturbation is Abortion says Sen. Enrile | Urban Meter - URBAN*METER

    The latest RH Bill plenary debate has enlightened millions of Filipinos as the Honorable Senator Juan Ponce Enrile labeled the act of masturbation as a form of abortion. Enrile says it comes from his belief as a Roman Catholic.

    The Roman Catholic Church and CBCP views masturbation as “an act that constitutes a moral disorder and absolutely and without any excuse, a seriously disordered act”. It has the same category as bestiality and sodomy.

    At the Senate RH Bill plenary, Enrile has said that…

    “And the question that bothers me is… Is the sperm alive? Is the ovum of the woman alive? I have consulted doctors and the answer is yes.

    The sperm of a man cannot fertilize any egg, not the egg of a whale, or a lizard, or a bird, or a fish, but only the egg of a woman. And neither can the egg of a woman be fertilized by any other sperm except the sperm of a man, so that these two elements must be together to create life. But each one of them has life. There is no question about that because they have mobility: They move; they develop.”

    And with this statement, Sen. Pia Cayetano a co-author of the Senate’s version of the Bill, gave a hypothetical scenario where a man ejaculates outside the woman’s vagina, here are the excerpts.

    SEN. PIA CAYETANO: “So, if a man and a woman are sleeping together as husband and wife and a man avails of the withdrawal method and ejaculates outside the vagina of a woman, that is ‘interference’ in the same way a condom would be, because the man and the woman decided not to allow the egg and the sperm to meet, is that his Honor’s position?”

    SEN. JUAN PONCE ENRILE: “Well, if the man wants to satisfy himself by manipulating himself alone, if it is only for pleasure, then it interferes with the production of life. That is my belief. That is a matter of faith to me.”

    Senator Enrile believes that the sperm is a living entity and that ejaculating it outside a vagina is a form of abortion and that a sperm’s purpose is only for pro-creation and not for pleasure. Faith is important for Senator Juan Ponce Enrile and it is important for the Filipino Roman Catholics. But should faith interfere with the laws of a secular government or not?, Should all the rules and basis of morality of the Catholic Church be included in the Philippine Constitution?

    Is belief really an acceptable argument in an intellectual discourse? or should religion be well represented in the government? None of us will know until the RH Bill has come to a vote... or will it?


    References:
    Senator Pia Cayetano: RH debates explore the extreme and the unknown | Sen. Pia S. Cayetano
    On Masturbation: Diversity of belief about masturbation within the Roman Catholic church
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    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    aguy, kung mao ning kalakiha ni, ka daghan na diay ko naka commit og abortion sukad pa atong high school pako huhuhuhuhuhuhu!

  4. #194

    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    bisag e release na or dili mamatay man ghapon ng sperm. ilisan nama pud nag bag.o. lain sa kaau katong wala nag masturabate kay mao ra ghapon na nga sperm pag sugod niya sa iyang puberty. like I said on my earlier post, e focus nila ilang attention sa mas importanting butang gawas anang RH Bill. daghan na kaau mga tawong gipanggutom, walay trabaho, walay education, guba nga mga dalan ug tulay ug antique nga mga armas sa atong mga sundalo.

    Salamat diay sa ni like sa akong post. ^_^

  5. #195

    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    sayang man gud nyaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  6. #196

    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    unsa man ning utoka oe. wala ko kasabot jud.

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    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    Yes, We are a catholic country, being at this religion was only inherited from the Spaniards thru colonization bec. our forefathers were aethiest in the bigining. But when I traveled onboard ship sometime in the 90's, we passed nearby the territorial waters of France,Spain,Portugal (Rome), some of the crews gather at the entertainment room to watch an xxx rated movie shown on air at a particular channel after midnight and it was legal daw? to think that these are also Christian countries?

    Vatican City is an ecclesiastical or sacerdotal-monarchical state, ruled by the Bishop of Rome—the Pope. The highest state functionaries are all Catholic clergymen of various national origins. It is the sovereign territory of the Holy See (Sancta Sedes) and the location of the Pope's residence, referred to as the Apostolic Palace....and....Why will they allow this?

    To me lang ha, nag over react lang gyud ang Philippines esp. those mga die hard Catholics kuno? pero wala diay sa buhat ! I dont believe Sen. Enrile never did experience masturbation in his entire life? We cannot defy human nature,not unless he is rare kind of specie different from all of us?
    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-08-2011 at 12:44 PM.

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    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    Wow, Almost all pinoy men could be charged with multiple counts of abortion ani ron. . paet!. .

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    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    naunsa naman intawn ni oi. naka commit na diay kog abortion....

  10. #200

    Default Re: Sen. Enrile: Masturbation is Abortion

    WTF..sa thread title palang daan nagkatawa nq

    naunsa naman tawn ni sila woi..nganung naka ingun man si enrile ug ingun ani..

    tsk3..

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