Arroyo presses Air Force on attack choppers (possible Cobra attack helicopters)

[personalmgt]

Aron wa'y lalis........... ingna nalang si Gloria nga pagpalit ug nuclear weapons para ayos...........

Not with the Geneva Convention biting her butt

Cobra's are fast and can easily evade an RPG. An RPG doesn't have a tracking mechanism so the RPG is best off as a weapon on a straight line.

[flanker]

i thought coz you're avatar is an SU-35 anyway i'm into SU-35 and SU-27 hardcore combat simulations, what i mean hardcore is that you have to read 200+ pages of flight manual for this bird like their weapon and radar systems etc...comms and flight formations

im juz a Sukhoi fanboy..

hoi flanker maybe stop nalng ka imo idea. RPG anti tank? might as well anti air right? hahaha too much watching movies nor playing bad games huh

Nope.. its not an anti-air but it can take down low flying aircraft probably 100 meters... it was used by the Mujahideens against the Soviet's helos but not really effective till they acquire the Stinger missiles.

If you follow the Chechen War 1 & 2, RPG was very effective destroying Russian tank columns.

[rodsky]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but never in the history of the Philippine Air Force has a Huey been hit by an "RPG" or some other form of missile/rocket, guided or unguided. I believe most PAF Huey crashes or crash-landings / emergency landings are either due to small arms fire or malfunction. Which kinda makes you wonder why some people think RPGs are a "threat" to choppers in our locality.

-RODION

[Jerry Michael]

Well, the economy is their priority but I guess the U.S army can do something about the bandits...........

Just recently......... in the news.............. maybe 4 divisions of the MILF surrendered to the Armed Forces of the Philippines along with their high caliber guns............

I seriously doubt your statement & the credibility of your source. Provide the link, if U can. Can U imagine 4 MILF divisions surrenderring en masse? Quit smoking that stuff, bro...That's what katyubong will do for U...

[Tarmac]

what dah?...it's a grenade smart ass and it's propelled by a rocket and it's not use as an anti-tank weapon who teach you that? somalia rag-tag mob? how come an RPG is consider as a bazooka? polis ka noh? hehehehe..

hoi flanker maybe stop nalng ka imo idea. RPG anti tank? might as well anti air right? hahaha too much watching movies nor playing bad games huh

Nganong gi lalis pa man ug ayo unsa ang RPG?

From wikipedia:

"A rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) is any hand-held, shoulder-launched anti-tank weapons capable of firing an unguided rocket equipped with an explosive warhead".

Rocket-propelled grenade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To say an RPG is a grenade (because its name says it is) is not entirely correct. This is because, as the wikipedia entry states further down:

"RPG is a transliteration of РПГ, the Russian abbreviation of ручной противотанковый гранатомёт (transliterated as "ruchnoy protivotankoviy granatomyot"), which translates to the English phrase "hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher". Thus rocket-propelled grenade is a backronym."

Backronym diay ang RPG. In other words, "RPG" was an original Russian abbreviation and the English words were filled in to fit. It is not, therefore, literally a grenade in the anti-personnel sense but as SiQ says, a shaped charge best used against armor.

Soviet RPGs were derived from both the bazooka and the German panzerfaust, both anti-tank weapons in World War II.

The UH-60s brought down in Somalia (the real life "Blackhawk Down" not the movie, ha?) were hit by insurgents using RPG-7s modified to fire upwards at low-flying helicopters. They are extremely inaccurate in that role. You can bet the guys who hit those Blackhawks were either very good or very very lucky.

Even if the local insurgents or bandits used RPGs as anti-aircraft weapons (and there is no evidence they ever have), a slight change in tactics would easily defeat them.

[SiQ]

Aron wa'y lalis........... ingna nalang si Gloria nga pagpalit ug nuclear weapons para ayos...........

no need to go that far, all they need is to cluster their camp/base.. now back to topic, if the PAF is required to get cobras, they should get the marine version...(ass end looks better) my 1st choice is the F-16's (2 seater-wso in the back).. so many of them sitting on the bone yard, maybe PAF can negotiate with uncle sam for 'foreign friendly country military assistance'.. A-10's, take out the 30mm (they are not shooting at tanks or apc or hardened bunker) sling 2 or 4 gun pods with small caliber..even smaller than the 20mm.. 2 or 4 cluster bombs.. maybe some precision guided bombs if needed..

[joshua259]

well for me I'd rather suggest buying new AC-130 Gunship and retro fitting our current C-130's, make it into an AC-130 Gunship. the AC-130 Gunship has 25mm Vulcan Cannons, 40mm Cannon and a 105mm Howitzer Cannon. and very untouchable unless the enemy uses guided surface to air missiles and airplanes.

the is the link for the AC-130 Gunship.

AC-130 Gunship Link

[flanker]

no need to go that far, all they need is to cluster their camp/base.. now back to topic, if the PAF is required to get cobras, they should get the marine version...(ass end looks better) my 1st choice is the F-16's (2 seater-wso in the back).. so many of them sitting on the bone yard, maybe PAF can negotiate with uncle sam for 'foreign friendly country military assistance'.. A-10's, take out the 30mm (they are not shooting at tanks or apc or hardened bunker) sling 2 or 4 gun pods with small caliber..even smaller than the 20mm.. 2 or 4 cluster bombs.. maybe some precision guided bombs if needed..

cluster bomb is a nice weapon but it is banned already.

[canister_sa_puwet]

Naa diay ikabuga atoang helicopter sa air force diri,,, matagak man guro ni kung tiradoron. hehehehe

[joshua259]

cluster bomb is a nice weapon but it is banned already.

ngek... banned na diay?!? hehehehe sayang...