Is it the government or is it you?!

[tolstoi]

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..but then again we have to classify these people who are causing sh[i]t to our government ryt now..these people are the destabilizers..mga galamays ni ERAP :mrgreen:

[zengatsu]

..but then again we have to classify these people who are causing sh[i]t to our government ryt now..these people are the destabilizers..mga galamays ni ERAP :mrgreen:

sakto jud! kung muingon ta nga the people, dili sad cguro tanan uy pero for sure apil jud ni mga destabilizers sa problema sa pinas..

[arnoldsa]

everyone..

[zengatsu]

oh for sure its not everyone bay..

[FK]

these people are the destabilizers..

dili sila maka-destabilize, kong wala gabuhat og butang nga mka destabilize.

depensa ta aning mga tawhana... ang kampo sa una ni ERAP ni depensa nga si GMA power grabber... karon kamo na sad namasangil nga sila ERAP ang power grabber... now ask yourself, nakasala ba ni silang duha?

I thought nga ERAP is ousted... ang pinoy dili na mo tolerate og corrupt, bisan og siya pa ang pinaka-taas og ranggo sa Pinas... pero na onsa ba homan gipatang2x si ERAP ni saka man hinoon pag-au ang corruption sa pinas. I thought wrong... coz in reality kong dili pa to ingon ato ka bogo si ERAP or kong dili pa to si ERAP dili to mapahawa og dayon... kay ang taw mo tan-aw ra d i sa sayop sa usa ka opisyal kong siya wala'y kamaho-an.

Maka-ingon sab ko nga ang taw maoy sad-an... coz we tolerate and sometimes are the ones engage in this graft and corrupt. tsk... tsk... tsk...

O.T.
About the destabilizer word... sa usa ka pamilya kong ang pamilya masamok tungod kay ni sumbong ang inahan sa police nga iyang asawa mangulata, kinsa man ang naka-destabilize sa pamilya?

[LytSlpr]

it's the system that corrupts even the so called "uncorruptibles." unfortunately it has become our culture. wa'y na ta'y mapili nga tarong. so we have no choice but to choose the "lesser" corrupt na lang.

[tolstoi]

these people are the destabilizers..

depensa ta aning mga tawhana... ang kampo sa una ni ERAP ni depensa nga si GMA power grabber... karon kamo na sad namasangil nga sila ERAP ang power grabber... now ask yourself, nakasala ba ni silang duha?

I thought nga ERAP is ousted... ang pinoy dili na mo tolerate og corrupt, bisan og siya pa ang pinaka-taas og ranggo sa Pinas... pero na onsa ba homan gipatang2x si ERAP ni saka man hinoon pag-au ang corruption sa pinas. I thought wrong... coz in reality kong dili pa to ingon ato ka bogo si ERAP or kong dili pa to si ERAP dili to mapahawa og dayon... kay ang taw mo tan-aw ra d i sa sayop sa usa ka opisyal kong siya wala'y kamaho-an.

O.T.
About the destabilizer word... sa usa ka pamilya kong ang pamilya masamok tungod kay ni sumbong ang inahan sa police nga iyang asawa mangulata, kinsa man ang naka-destabilize sa pamilya?

bai FK..who said we tolerate wrongdoings here?..all we are asking is, if you think PGMA violated the LAW then APPLY that LAW to persecute her in court..not just go out in the streets and incite the people to topple her government...mas maayo unta kung majority of the people are united to oust PGMA just like what happened during EDSA2..ang nahitabo bai kai maihap raman sa kumingking ang mga nag rally sa dalan samtang ang ubang publiko nalingaw ra ug tan-aw nila..meaning dili MAJORITY ang gusto papahawaon c PGMA thru another revolution

kai DAGHAN man ang DILI gusto papahawaon c PGMA thru EDSA style revolution meaning kaning mga PIPILA ka mga tawo nga gusto ug revolution mahulog ni cla nga DESTABILIZERS...nakahatag lang ug samok sa ubang publiko like mga commuters nga na peste sa trapik tungod aning rally2x nila..and worst is our economy is much affected!

IN A DEMOCRACY THE RULE OF THE MAJORITY ALWAYS PREVAILS..IF YOU WANT PGMA OUSTED THEN FILE IMPEACHMENT NEXT YEAR! :mrgreen:

[FK]

bai FK..who said we tolerate wrongdoings here?..all we are asking is, if you think PGMA violated the LAW then APPLY that LAW to persecute her in court..not just go out in the streets and incite the people to topple her government...

when you see the wrong doings and done nothing or at least go against it... that's tolerating a wrongdoing. Kong kita ka sa imong igsoon nangawat sa imong mama... yet wala nimo badlonga, onsay tawag ana? dili ba na pag tolerate.

mas maayo unta kung majority of the people are united to oust PGMA just like what happened during EDSA2..

another double standard in implementing the rule of law... so kong majority sa taw maka pa-oust sa presidente rule of law na siya? that's rule of the mob gihapon bai... pero mao lagi this politikos can't face the real rule of law kong dili mo agi sa rule of the mob.

kai DAGHAN man ang DILI gusto papahawaon c PGMA thru EDSA style revolution meaning kaning mga PIPILA ka mga tawo nga gusto ug revolution mahulog ni cla nga DESTABILIZERS...

kong gamay ra d i taw mo apil sa onsa tan-aw nilang sakto tawagon na silang Destabilizers? Kato silang Don Chino Roces bai sa panahon ni Marcos tawagon sab to silang destabilizers?
Daghan dili gusto papahawaon og daghan lang wala'y pakabana?

IN A DEMOCRACY THE RULE OF THE MAJORITY ALWAYS PREVAILS..IF YOU WANT PGMA OUSTED THEN FILE IMPEACHMENT NEXT YEAR!

probably the opposition is already thinking about that... so from then on we will have impeachment after impeachment with no clear closure of the issue coz GMA would not dare to face the music... what a brave Ate Glue and blame all those people who would like her to face the issue.

Sen. Dick Gordon said Ate Glue is like a boxer on the ropes, being pummeled by her opponent. She fights on because she has pride; she doesn't want to be counted out; she wants to finish the bout. Her seconds should already be throwing in the towel but they don't because if she is TKO'd, the purses for future bouts would be much less, and therefore their pay would be that much less, too. They're thinking of themselves, not of the welfare of their fighter.

[tolstoi]

when you see the wrong doings and done nothing or at least go against it... that's tolerating a wrongdoing. Kong kita ka sa imong igsoon nangawat sa imong mama... yet wala nimo badlonga, onsay tawag ana? dili ba na pag tolerate.

personally i've seen wrong doings not only in PGMA but also on her opponents..both of these camps cheated their way to the presidency..on the ironic side of it only PGMA had the guts to inform the PUBLIC [on a national TV] with regards on her wrongdoings and even CHALLENGED the oppostion to persecute her with due process in an impeachment court...now do i need to cry my heart out on the streets just to get her ousted?..mag sige bako hilak diri sa forum nga c PGMA nanikas busa siya papahawaon when she already admitted her wrongdoings and challenged everyone to pin her down in court?

nya bai FK..inyo demand kai mo resign cya voluntarily tungod sa PANIKAS..nya sa sunod nga presidente mo demand nasad mo nga pa resignon kai nakadaug naman sad sa tikas [judas not cheat anyway?]..and so-on-and-so-fort..so wlai kahumanan inyo hilak ug pangugat..

diba maayo nga maghulat nalang ta sa impeachment complaint kaisa mag cgi yaw2x ug pangugat sa pagpa resign sa current president?..the rule of law must prevail ryt?

[tolstoi]

another double standard in implementing the rule of law... so kong majority sa taw maka pa-oust sa presidente rule of law na siya? that's rule of the mob gihapon bai... pero mao lagi this politikos can't face the real rule of law kong dili mo agi sa rule of the mob.

the people constitutes the government..right?..if the "majority" of the people do not like the present government then they are entitled to change it either thru election or revolution...in a democracy majority rules man kaha...ang matawag ug rule of mob bai kanang mag rally2x dihang maihap sa kumingking nya uban pa gyud members binayran!..mao nay rule of mob.