God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[Keldricus]

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Ah basta, tuo ko that HE existed. :mrgreen:

Existed - past tense

[ej___]

Past tense bro coz physical existence ako pasabot way way back His time.

[vladmire]

Past tense bro coz physical existence ako pasabot way way back His time.

I feel you bro...

[shimiyu]

hehe amen.

Part 2 comin' up.

[rcruman]

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM SCIENCE
1. Science is always true.
2. Therefore there is no room for religious faith.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. The bible contains science
2. Individual faith or self interest will not fit to the bible
3. Where is Science without God

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LOGIC
1. There are some things in logic that you can't logically demonstrate.
2. Therefore you have to take them on faith.
3. But faith in logic is not the same as faith in God.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

So the conclusion is that when logic can't be logically demonstrated then God doesn't exist?
Remember there are own logic and generally accepted or proven logic.
Of course its different, faith in logic than faith in God but how come when it can't be demonstrated logically it will lead to conclusion that "God doesn't exist"?

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN
1. If there is a designer, then God must exist.
2. If I find a watch in a forest, there must be a designer.
3. (Atheist ignores watch in forest)
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Yes, God is the perfect designer. Think of any place where you should put your eyes if you will be given a chance.
2. NO its not a designer anymore its a creator because there's watch already. Design is not the completion of everything its must be executed or performed.
3. So will it means Atheist ignore God totally? Atheist in there dying days or downfall blame or call God.
4. How come when atheist can't find a watch in the forest it will lead to a conclusion that there's no God?
it goes like this, some will say "I have no salt" thus it means salt doesn't exist?
The fact that you don't have salt it lead us that there's salt. When someone says "there's no God" the more that there's God but the absolute fact is that God is not with you or within you.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS
1. Christians are blind to reason, intelligence and logic.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Christians are blind in doing fleshly things, Christians are blind in reason, intelligence and logic of earthly things.
Christians see's which is not commonly seen by non-believers.
2. God can't be seen in naked eyes (the totality of God).

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY
1. Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
2. Therefore, there is no reasonable way to challenge a proposition.
3. I propose that God doesn’t exist.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. reasoning without basis is flawed. came from own interpretation is flawed.
2. Everything is worth to challenge. and everything is worth to be tested and proved.
3. God doesn't exist to everybody, He only existed to those people who has clear and open mind about His will.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE
1. I once experienced something I can't explain.
2. I can come up with several possible, natural explanations which do not fit the facts, but make me feel comfortable.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Personal or own experience is not enough to be accepted, evidence can explain everything (spiritual and physical).
2. Then we should be specific, what type of facts?
3. God is not a rule that must be accepted or God is not a must. He gave us free will to decide.
The great truth is, God is not in all individual.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF PROOF
1. You can't prove God exists!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Really? what kind of proof? physical or spiritual?
2. People directly conclude that there's no God because of there limitations.
They conclude that there's no God because they want proof that they like, I mean, they don't accept evidence because for them its their choice, These kind of people denying God are people keep on asking why others have and why they don't have.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF BELIEF
1. If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
2. I don’t believe in God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. He exist, but the fact is that you don't like His existence.
Keep on complaining and keep on blaming God because you didn't received what your asking and you don't like what things happened.
2. Some people don't or didn't believed God because they want to escape following the Good Law.
Like its prohibited to have another wife (adultery) but they want many woman as possible.
Its better to give than to receive, but some want to have it all (billionaire, trillionaire). Have you heard rich people stopped doing business, as much as they could they want to add their wealth everyday.
3. Its not a righteous conclusion that when someone didn't see God then God doesn't exist. There are requirements how to see God and the fact that you didn't see God then it leads to a righteous conclusion that you don't have the requirements. its like when you didn't passed the examination then its a fact that you don't have the brain to answer the passing score.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
1. I believe that if God exists, there will be physical evidence for his existence.
2. There is no physical evidence for the existence of God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. God is spirit, how could some will ask for a physical evidence. Or asking a physical evidence was just an excuse to deny Him and not to follow Him.
2. There's a physical evidence of Gods work and power.
3. For some other's doubt it is not a fact to conclude that there's no God.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF REVELATION
1. God should be able to tell me He exists.
2. I don’t hear God telling me anything.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. He already did, He sent prophets, kings , apostles and even His begotten Son. But people still complaining and asking more. Denying what God has sent is the same thing denying Him. What would be His assurance that some will believed on Him when they see Him?
2. He keep on saying and calling us, through the bible (right bible).
3. God is spirit and can't be seen by eyes.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER
1. When I used to pray, I never got what I wanted (like a million dollars, a Playstation 2 with all the games, and a girlfriend).
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Because you're asking too much for you.
You wont die if you dont have millions, playstation 2 and gf.
God knows whats good for us, let us all be thankful for all that we have wether its less or much.
2. Its not a righteous conclusion to conclude that God doesn't exist because the absence of things that you're asking.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF MIRACLES
1. My aunt had cancer.
2. The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
3. My aunt prayed to God, but she died from her cancer anyway.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Then to God be the Glory.
2. Then it will lead you to conclusion that everything was in God's hands and money can't saved your life if its your time already. God kill and Heal. People complaint about God because they always look only to this present life (earth), there's a better life for people who believed and followed Him.
3. Then its her time already, God is teaching that all is in His power. Your aunt die doing good or doing bad? then if she died doing good then she will be comforted on judgment day, if not then sorry for her.
4. Death is not a fact to deny God, but rather its a turning fact that there's God who is the owner of everything.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM COMPLETE DEVASTATION
1. A plane crashed killing all 143 passengers and crew.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Then its God will to give them rest because a better life is waiting after judgment.
2. Accident is not a fact to deny Him, but rather a turning point for us to do Good always because we don't know what might happen tomorrow, its not within our control but through God.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM HELL
1. If I don't believe God exists, I'll go to Hell.
2. I can’t comprehend that a loving God would send people to Hell.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Then that's the fact. So to you Hell is more realistic than God.
2. His love was given when where alive, through His only begotten Son but people love the darkness than the light.
3. God is Just that He will give what is due to you, if you do Good then you will be in heaven then if you do evil then you will be in hell.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF FEAR
1. If God exists then I’m going to Hell.
2. I’m not afraid of Hell. New Jersey is much worse.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. It doesn't follow that way, When God exist then you have the best chance to be in Heaven and the best chance to do good, its nice to do Good. Evil things are good to flesh like (disco, many *** partner, wine/beer, gamble, luxury and corruption).
2. So you rather be afraid of Hell than God? Hell is the reward for those who deny God, so Hell can be avoided by accepting God and believing on Him without questions and complaint. How come you believed on Hell (by not afraid of it) then rather deny God? all i can see from your statement are excuses. Its like Adam when he eat the forbidden fruit he rather blame God because of the woman that is given to him.
3. Without Hell God still exist.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE OF HISTORY
1. The Bible is completely false.
2. Therefore, the Bible is toilet paper.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. The bible is a complete false to those who hate God, deny God and Love to do Evil.
2. Its not just a paper but it contains the word of God for us to have a guide to experience eternal life when we follow God's Law.
3. God exist also for those who didn't know the bible or didn't have a chance to read the bible.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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[ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
1. (Arbitrary passage from OT)
2. (Arbitrary passage from NT)
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. Old Testament is for israelites, while NT is for Christians who follows Christ.
2. You should know the time frame and to where it is intended before concluding that God doesn't exist through arbitrary passage from OT and NT.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE (II)
1. The Bible says the Bible is true.
2. This is a circular argument.
3. Therefore the Bible is false.
4. The Bible says God exists.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. who else will say it, no other books claim that the bible is true but rather deny the bible.
2. The bible is false for non-believers and deny God.
3. Of course the bible will say it, who do think will say that God exist rather than bible?
4. with your limitations its not enough to conclude that God doesn't exist.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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THE BIBLICAL ALTERATION ARGUMENT
1. The Bible has been deliberately changed since it was written.
2. Therefore everything in it must be false.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. The bible was not change but some people make their own version and translation. Try a Greek and Hebrew Interlinear bible so that you will know the exact details of what is written in older version. Don't rely on garbage translation and paraphrase versions.
2. What a bold statement came from a conclusive mind and denying the existence of God.

Utterly Profound Disproofs of God's Existence [Part 1]
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ARGUMENT FROM "JESUS SAID" STUFF
1. Jesus said some stuff.
2. I think that a lot of the stuff he said was horrible and unloving.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

1. its not stuff buts its a Gospel, and Gospel was not just a stuff. Following the Gospel will make us Good.
2. Give some things that is horrible and unloving, please make another thread for this horrible and unloving stuff that he said(according to you). All of Christ words came from God and God is Love.
3. Again with your conclusive mind its not enough to have a fact.

Peace!

[mr.ho_chia2]

@ Shimiyu: nice one. sounds familiar reasons to me, heard those a lot of times already. hehe

kuyawa rc ruman da, point by point naa gyud cya ikatubag. bow nako ani? lol

[shimiyu]

hahaha easy rcruman, you don't need to defend all of those.
read the bottom of the post.

[mr.ho_chia2]

hahaha easy rcruman, you don't need to defend all of those.
read the bottom of the post.

none bottom last post bro. you got people confused. hehe

[kalanrakas]

Epicurus posed the following problem in the Second Century BCE.

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot.
Or he can, but does not want to.
Or he cannot, and does not want to.

If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent.
If he can, but does not want to, then he is wicked.
If he neither can, nor wants to, he is both powerless and wicked.

[kalanrakas]

Stinger lang to. Here is the proof of god's non-existence from a web page. Read it through kay ang uban bitaw ninyo tag-as man ug posts unya not a joy to read kay bad grammar.

I'm just posting the link out of respect for the rules.

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/disproof1.html