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    for me, i believe maluwas akong kalag through ni Jesus, if you'll ask me why, pagresearch nalang mu kay di ra gihapun mu mutoo kung sultian tamu..Lol
    may nang kamu mismo mutobag sa inyong mga pangutana..haha

  2. #12
    @mach

    That's why we exalt Christ alone. People have their own choice asa sila mag grow spiritually.

  3. #13
    @silent kill

    ngano di naman pwede bai.. wala na diay tai freewill, ig mamatay nata? naa diay time limit gi hatag sa ginoo nato?
    Earth is the training ground daw bro Lisud sad that we can only realize if we are already separated from God. Para asa paman atong good works? Mao bitaw gitawag ang kaluwasan ug grasya bro because of his great love sa atua, though we sinned, He still provides the way.

    IMO bro, Freewill still exist but not tainted anymore with sin. It will be restored to a status like Adam had before the fall and we will realize that to truly be free; our will must be in perfect alignment with the will of God. Just think bro if you experience total bliss in God’s presence like you never experience before, then nakabalo naka sa consequence if you do sin, mobuhat pa kaha ka?

    Parehas ra gud bro kung nakagawas ta gikan sa prisohan and we are with our loved ones na, malipayon na imong kinabuhi uban nila, of course dili na jud ta ganahan mobalik sa prisohan, diba?

    pwede na bai di ka mo ad2 sa langit. nya di pud ka mo ad2 sa imperno, og sa purgatoryo?.. di lang ka mo subay sa linya gud.. adto raka sa lobby.... sa supreme court?
    …gipa reserved daw na ang lobby sa mga insik bro! kay magnegosyo daw sila didto sa eskena para langit ug emperno…hhahaha!

    kuan man gud bai breakeven, danghan kaau religion/spiritual teaching nga nindot pud og sturya... sa uban naai re-incarnation, sa uban di mo too og langit og imperno, purgaturyo.., ang uban pud walay toohan.. nya naa pud mga ginoo nga parihas og sturya ni jesus. hehehe. na curious lang ko ngano naka ingon ka nga si jesus rai maka salbar nato, di pwede si mohammad, or kinsa panan dirang uban?
    Kasabot rako bro coz i have that same question before. You can try to study these religions kung unsa ilang ma offer sa imoha. ug makita sad nimo ilang kinabuhi kung unsa ang klase sa Ginoo ilang gituohan. God offers us eternal life through His Son. Mao na ang pinakasure ug sayon nga paagi.

    onsa kaha tanaw nimo bai breakeven og na anak ka sa india? onsa kaha imong religion ron?, or kong na anak ka sa middle east?
    That’s why we should be very thankful bro nga wala ta didto coz we can hear the gospel of salvation freely. Ang atoa lang is to understand and accept it heartily.

    Only God knows what arrangement He has for those who don’t have the chance to hear the gospel and die. Kana applicable lang na sa mga inosente ha…..but what Ive known are 2 things para sa dili inosente, heaven for the saved and hell for the lost.

    Romans 9:5
    For he says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

    What happens to those who have never heard the gospel?|Must one hear of Jesus to be saved? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

    speaking of senses abai breakeven, igka patay nato.. naa ba gihapon nato ang atong "5" senses? feeling/touch, sight, taste, hearing, og smell? as what i know kani sila mo make sense rani sa atong "physical" state, kai naa man tai "brain" nga mo interpret sa stimulus.... kong patay nata wa naman tai brain activity.. nya spirit/consciousness nalang ma bilin.... i'm just wondering kong naa maba gihapon ta ana nga senses... also.. naa paba ang sense of "time" igka mamatay naka?
    I assume naa gihapon bro but it will be in a glorious state, a glorified body, a kind of body that is not subject to physical laws like Jesus have when he appears to men after his resurrection. A body that can travel at the speed of light. Diri lang na sa physical universe ang concept of time bro, it does not exist in eternity.

    God is powerful. There’s nothing impossible in his will.

    Revelation 21:5
    And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 04-06-2013 at 02:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @silent kill



    Earth is the training ground daw bro Lisud sad that we can only realize if we are already separated from God. Para asa paman atong good works? Mao bitaw gitawag ang kaluwasan ug grasya bro because of his great love sa atua, though we sinned, He still provides the way.

    IMO bro, Freewill still exist but not tainted anymore with sin. It will be restored to a status like Adam had before the fall and we will realize that to truly be free; our will must be in perfect alignment with the will of God. Just think bro if you experience total bliss in God’s presence like you never experience before, then nakabalo naka sa consequence if you do sin, mobuhat pa kaha ka?

    Parehas ra gud bro kung nakagawas ta gikan sa prisohan and we are with our loved ones na, malipayon na imong kinabuhi uban nila, of course dili na jud ta ganahan mobalik sa prisohan, diba?



    …gipa reserved daw na ang lobby sa mga insik bro! kay magnegosyo daw sila didto sa eskena para langit ug emperno…hhahaha!



    Kasabot rako bro coz i have that same question before. You can try to study these religions kung unsa ilang ma offer sa imoha. ug makita sad nimo ilang kinabuhi kung unsa ang klase sa Ginoo ilang gituohan. God offers us eternal life through His Son. Mao na ang pinakasure ug sayon nga paagi.



    That’s why we should be very thankful bro nga wala ta didto coz we can hear the gospel of salvation freely. Ang atoa lang is to understand and accept it heartily.

    Only God knows what arrangement He has for those who don’t have the chance to hear the gospel and die. Kana applicable lang na sa mga inosente ha…..but what Ive known are 2 things para sa dili inosente, heaven for the saved and hell for the lost.

    Romans 9:5
    For he says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

    What happens to those who have never heard the gospel?|Must one hear of Jesus to be saved? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry



    I assume naa gihapon bro but it will be in a glorious state, a glorified body, a kind of body that is not subject to physical laws like Jesus have when he appears to men after his resurrection. A body that can travel at the speed of light. Diri lang na sa physical universe ang concept of time bro, it does not exist in eternity.

    God is powerful. There’s nothing impossible in his will.

    Revelation 21:5
    And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
    na lingaw kosa imong comment about sa insik bro heheeh.

  6. #16
    syaro way mo-bali'g tinuho-an ninyong duha sa pikas...

  7. #17
    for the sake of money, we will make a religion, its good business

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    for me, i believe maluwas akong kalag through ni Jesus, if you'll ask me why, pagresearch nalang mu kay di ra gihapun mu mutoo kung sultian tamu..Lol
    may nang kamu mismo mutobag sa inyong mga pangutana..haha
    mao na akong sayop bro kai ga research ko.. samot noon akong pag duda.. ahhaha.

    mao na ayaw jud mo research stick lang mo sa inyong gi toohan.... kita lang nya ta sa lobby sa supreme court naa ko baligya did2

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteKelso View Post
    for the sake of money, we will make a religion, its good business

    we can always try, di man kaha ka mauwaw magwali sa karsada bro?
    heheh unless kung naa kay power2 parehas sa ubang kulto kay naa jud mosunod nimo.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    syaro way mo-bali'g tinuho-an ninyong duha sa pikas...
    bisan pag tanang religion atong balhinan bro, haw-ang gihapon imong kinabuhi but once youll know Christ, dili naka mangitag lain pa

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